Queen and Paul Rodgers -- why did it end the way it did?
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winterspelt · Member since
Well, Paul deserves some criticism for his awful performances in the last days of Q+PR.
Having said that, I enjoyed a lot Q+PR. There are a few amazing bootlegs and Return of the Champions is a really nice video. Im also part of the minority who enjoys TCR album (Believe, Warboys, CR and specially Small and Glitter are GREAT songs) and praise should be given to Brian and Roger for playing some great versions of Paul's songs and add a little bit of their magic to those great songs, specially Brian for the Paul Kossoff-like touch to Paul's songs.
It's clear that the only 100% capable singer for Queen is Freddie (the songs were made FOR him, so no surprises here).
Paul did a great job a lot of the time and an awful job in the last days.
Adam had a good start. Years later, the 2014/early 2015 shows were amazing. I have mixed feelings for the current tour. I feel the band is not into it as the previous 2014/2015 tours.
Oscar J · Member since
winterspelt: Do you mean Rodgers singing got increasingly bad as they progressed? Any examples?
NickESB · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]winterspelt wrote:[/b]
I have mixed feelings for the current tour. I feel the band is not into it as the previous 2014/2015 tours. [/QUOTE]
Honestly, I think they're underehearsed this time around. Rio wasn't great, all of them making notable errors.
winterspelt · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Oscar J wrote:[/b]
winterspelt: Do you mean Rodgers singing got increasingly bad as they progressed? Any examples? [/QUOTE]
Download any show from random show from 2005 (It seems that Paul had a few random issues with his voice all over the tour but still he was able to deal a decent performance) or 2006 (which, IIRC, is the tour in which they released the "Return of the Champions" DVD) and compare it to any random gig from their last tour and Paul's performance was average or even bad.
NickESB · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]winterspelt wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Oscar J wrote:[/b]
winterspelt: Do you mean Rodgers singing got increasingly bad as they progressed? Any examples? [/QUOTE]
Download any show from random show from 2005 (It seems that Paul had a few random issues with his voice all over the tour but still he was able to deal a decent performance) or 2006 (which, IIRC, is the tour in which they released the "Return of the Champions" DVD) and compare it to any random gig from their last tour and Paul's performance was average or even bad.
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Return of the Champions was recorded in Sheffield on May 9, 2005, a couple of shows from the end of the EU Tour.
Doga · Member since
The main issue of Return of the Champions is that it isn't Super Live in Japan, while RotC has better camera work and lightring, SLJ has better setlist (Teo Torriate, I Was Born to Love You, Fire and Water and a 10 min. solo) better performance of the band and a better production of the sound.
To this day, if there is a product to show the musical prowess of Brian and Roger outside the traditional Queen, is Super Live in Japan.
brunogorski · Member since
Speaking about that, does ANYONE still has the SLJ in 1080p? I was never able to download it. Sad.
Doga · Member since
I don't know if was filmed in HD in the first place. It wasn't released in BluRay, if i'm not mistaken, only in DVD, so 480p.
The only opportunity to catch in 1080p it'll be a HDTV transmision, but then, it'll probably be upscaled anyway. My favourite Last Horizon comes from that show, is very clean.
brunogorski · Member since
Oh, I supposed it was 1080p. Don't know why, actually.
Snackpot · Member since
Rodger's made Queen boring. He's doesn't have much range to his voice at all, which pretty much killed 99% of Queen songs. Whenever he sang the Queen songs it was as if he was half-arsed phoning it in. He couldn't even be bothered to learn the words, working as he did with a tele-prompter.
His whole performance smacked of a last minute supply teacher who doesn't really care what happens and will just go through the motions until 3.15pm when the bell goes and he can go and have a fag.
Biggest Band On The Planet · Member since
In this concert I think Rodgers is on fire.
I'm not a big fan of Rodgers but I'd take him any day over adam lambert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWVIzkApyF8
cmsdrums · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Doga wrote:[/b]
I don't know if was filmed in HD in the first place. It wasn't released in BluRay, if i'm not mistaken, only in DVD, so 480p.
The only opportunity to catch in 1080p it'll be a HDTV transmision, but then, it'll probably be upscaled anyway. My favourite Last Horizon comes from that show, is very clean.[/QUOTE]
The Ukraine concert was filmed in 1080p I believe, but never released on Blu Ray, as Brian stated at the time that there wasn't the demand for the HD format!!
pittrek · Member since
I absolutely don't believe Japan TV was recording anything in SD resolution in 2008
e-man · Member since
Sheffield was recorded in HD. As was Japan 2005. Same goes for Ukraine 08. Both Japan and Ukraine have been shown, albeit in edited form, in HD on some tv channels
Insane that none of the titles are available on blu ray.
I actually e-mailed the good doctor about the lack of blu ray release, around the time it came out (summer 2009), and the excuse was that there wasn't a demand for blu rays.....
all three titles should be re-released on blu ray, with bonus gigs thrown in. Hyde Park 2005. South America 08. Any gig from 08 really, as they had a decent camera set up every night.
e-man · Member since
the chile gig posted above blows Ukraine out of the water. As does most of the gigs on the latter half of the tour.
I never got why they went with Ukraine, apart from the obvious Aids awareness connection