Queen and Paul Rodgers -- why did it end the way it did?

pittrek 22 September 2015 15:28 · Member since September 2005

Oscar J wrote:

cmsdrums wrote: Rodgers was getting right on my tits well before the end with a cavalier approach to the song melodies...

Whatever do you mean? :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OL7fUeLqa0

OMG that was horrible. Absolutely horrible. Not Paul. All of them. At least Spike "tried" to play One Vision. I like the look on his face. "come on guys, keep it together". The whole thing looks / sounds like they were doing drugs backstage, completely forgot they were supposed to play and ran on stage completely unprepared.

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pittrek 22 September 2015 15:30 · Member since September 2005

Marknow wrote:

Anybody who thinks PR was a better fit to Queen than Al needs to get their shit together. A lot of people walked away in disgust when AL came along simply because he didn't have enough lineage or credibility, they missed out big time. Don't get me wrong, Paul is a great artist and I love him forever for helping to kick start Queen+ live but Adam is more suited to Queen by light years and he's brought a new audience with him. There is so much energy and momentum behind Q+AL that was never there with Paul. Q+AL is far from over, believe me, and I'm fucking delighted about that. :)

I was against Adam because I hate(d) his singing style and "stage persona". He's getting better, but the rest of the band isn't. They are too slow, Brian seems like he's in pain, Roger looks like he's 10 seconds away from a heart attack...

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Ivo-1976 22 September 2015 16:02 · Member since August 2011

Roger needs a back-up drummer and that says it all for me.
Two old men, ghosts of who they once were, dwelling in the past with a talent show singer.
With an audience that is mainly there for a little taste of the good old times.

It's getting kind of a joke and the boys deserve better than this. This is a parody of Queen.

Finish it off with a short UK-tour and call it a day. That's what i would do. Over time, it will only get worse.

M

Marknow 22 September 2015 16:30 · Member since April 2005

pittrek wrote:
Marknow wrote:

Anybody who thinks PR was a better fit to Queen than Al needs to get their shit together. A lot of people walked away in disgust when AL came along simply because he didn't have enough lineage or credibility, they missed out big time. Don't get me wrong, Paul is a great artist and I love him forever for helping to kick start Queen+ live but Adam is more suited to Queen by light years and he's brought a new audience with him. There is so much energy and momentum behind Q+AL that was never there with Paul. Q+AL is far from over, believe me, and I'm fucking delighted about that. :)

I was against Adam because I hate(d) his singing style and "stage persona". He's getting better, but the rest of the band isn't. They are too slow, Brian seems like he's in pain, Roger looks like he's 10 seconds away from a heart attack...

That is a fair comment re Adam, he does over power a fair bit, he also tries to be more humorous than necessary imho, traits that are products of his theatrical upbringing, the lad with the mustache was lambasted for those reasons too though when Queen started out. I love AL for his Queen+ live status and I really feel it is more "Queen" than Q+PR. Have I bought his latest album? No. I'm a major fan of his live work with Queen. Is he perfect? fuck no!

As for Bri & Rog, let's be honest, they won't go on forever with both of them being the wrong side of 60, maybe age is creeping in but not to the extent where they should stop performing. I cannot recall any period post-Freddie when I have seen them so happy and enthusiastic to be performing live. When you get to that age enthusiasm and joy are priceless commodities.

I really wish people could see the joy in what we have on offer at the moment. I wish people could drop the prejudice they have for AL because he doesn't have 40 years in the business like PR does. I'm not an overtly joyous person who seeks the positive in everything, quite the opposite really, but this is it folks, this is as good as it will ever get without Fred.

I could go on and talk about how successful the live numbers have been with Queen+ Al and many more points, I'm not going to, people can make up their own mind. What really annoys me though is the fact that people ignore the numbers, the sell out concerts in many countries worldwide, the critical acclaim from the press, they did so before AL sung a note with Bri & Rog because he was a nobody, Elton John said it back in 1991 "They need to grab some kid, a nobody who can do the music justice" they did, it's a shame it took so much time to do so.

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Marknow 22 September 2015 16:40 · Member since April 2005

If certain fans don't like it then fair enough, such is life. I respect that position, after all it's worth only as much as mine. To write the project off without experiencing it though is foolhardy at best.

(rant over :P)

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Marknow 22 September 2015 16:46 · Member since April 2005

Ivo-1976 wrote:
old men, ghosts of who they once were, dwelling in the past

Is that how you would like to be remembered too when you hit your late 60's? Have you any humility at all? Should they just book into a Swiss clinic for a lethal cocktail seeing as they have served their purpose? Lest they fail you even more. Shame on you.

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Oscar J 22 September 2015 18:21 · Member since December 2012

I will happily admit that AL fits Queen much better that Rodgers. Not that that's much of an accomplishment.

Show Must Go On:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOshR7YEucc

"Mah makeup may be flayakin'" Note choices throughout ranging from unnecessary to downright odd.

We Are The Chayampions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izMvfxxRbcE

"And bad mistayakes... I've mayade a few." There's just one line in the whole song he didn't completely change around.

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Oscar J 22 September 2015 18:22 · Member since December 2012

double post

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winterspelt 22 September 2015 21:53 · Member since May 2007

Oscar J wrote:

I will happily admit that AL fits Queen much better that Rodgers. Not that that's much of an accomplishment.

Show Must Go On:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOshR7YEucc

"Mah makeup may be flayakin'" Note choices throughout ranging from unnecessary to downright odd.

We Are The Chayampions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izMvfxxRbcE

"And bad mistayakes... I've mayade a few." There's just one line in the whole song he didn't completely change around.

Or this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0hI0xKWhAw

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Doga 23 September 2015 00:18 · Member since November 2010

We bashed the guy enough, i think. To say something positive i enjoy Voodoo and Surf's Up, as well as C-Lebrity.

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Pim Derks 23 September 2015 01:10 · Member since July 2001

I've seen QAL live once, QPR 13 times. Adam has definitely gotten a lot better in the big tour, when compared to the (YouTube videos of) the 2012 gigs. Still, the band felt (to me) much tighter in 2005/2008. Roger NOT playing Tie Your Mother Down is just sad.

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Togg 23 September 2015 02:37 · Member since December 2003

Marknow wrote:

pittrek wrote:
Marknow wrote:

Anybody who thinks PR was a better fit to Queen than Al needs to get their shit together. A lot of people walked away in disgust when AL came along simply because he didn't have enough lineage or credibility, they missed out big time. Don't get me wrong, Paul is a great artist and I love him forever for helping to kick start Queen+ live but Adam is more suited to Queen by light years and he's brought a new audience with him. There is so much energy and momentum behind Q+AL that was never there with Paul. Q+AL is far from over, believe me, and I'm fucking delighted about that. :)

I was against Adam because I hate(d) his singing style and "stage persona". He's getting better, but the rest of the band isn't. They are too slow, Brian seems like he's in pain, Roger looks like he's 10 seconds away from a heart attack...

That is a fair comment re Adam, he does over power a fair bit, he also tries to be more humorous than necessary imho, traits that are products of his theatrical upbringing, the lad with the mustache was lambasted for those reasons too though when Queen started out. I love AL for his Queen+ live status and I really feel it is more "Queen" than Q+PR. Have I bought his latest album? No. I'm a major fan of his live work with Queen. Is he perfect? fuck no!

As for Bri & Rog, let's be honest, they won't go on forever with both of them being the wrong side of 60, maybe age is creeping in but not to the extent where they should stop performing. I cannot recall any period post-Freddie when I have seen them so happy and enthusiastic to be performing live. When you get to that age enthusiasm and joy are priceless commodities.

I really wish people could see the joy in what we have on offer at the moment. I wish people could drop the prejudice they have for AL because he doesn't have 40 years in the business like PR does. I'm not an overtly joyous person who seeks the positive in everything, quite the opposite really, but this is it folks, this is as good as it will ever get without Fred.

I could go on and talk about how successful the live numbers have been with Queen+ Al and many more points, I'm not going to, people can make up their own mind. What really annoys me though is the fact that people ignore the numbers, the sell out concerts in many countries worldwide, the critical acclaim from the press, they did so before AL sung a note with Bri & Rog because he was a nobody, Elton John said it back in 1991 "They need to grab some kid, a nobody who can do the music justice" they did, it's a shame it took so much time to do so.

Totally agreed, the folks on here not around when Freddie was alive have been very fortunate to get to see whatever form Queen have taken over the past 20 years so enjoy it while it lasts. Have some joy people, isnt that what music is all about?, Had Brian died do you really think Freddie would have never sung another Queen song on stage, it was in his blood, he would have been performing with other artists (particularly young talent) He loved working and performing as do they. Enjoy seeing Brian and Roger play some of teh best somgs ever written while it lasts.

M

Martin Packer 23 September 2015 06:59 · Member since October 2004

Have seen QAL twice, QPR twice, Q four times. Prefer Q (obviously) to QAL and QPR and prefer QAL to QPR.

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e-man 23 September 2015 07:29 · Member since September 2002

despite a train wreck portion, the QPR Mandela version of One Vision is not bad at all.
Some people want the song to have the exact same phrasing as Freddie would have done, but that was never the case with Paul. He had his own spin on it - and that was what Brian used to praise him for.

compare it to the rio version from other day, and it's obvious to me the latter lacks power, both in playing and in vocals. lambert's voice is still to thin and vibrating

and related to the topic; Roger is really slowing down....

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Oscar J 23 September 2015 08:15 · Member since December 2012

^ Good post. Rodgers sang One Vision quite well, as it fits him as a singer. Other songs are almost unbearable though. True about Roger by the way, poor guy.

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