Oof... It's painful when Rogers sings 'real decision' with the phrasing rushed so it doesn't fit the rhythm. I feel for Brian and Roger trying to sing vocal harmony with him at that point.
Eugh... 'And a cold wind blows' coming in too early then just falling to pieces.
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]
Beyong Brian and Paul arguing, I don't know the full specifics of why it ended, but I'm glad it did - Rodgers was getting right on my tits well before the end with a cavalier approach to the song melodies, and his vowel sounds were hurting my ears.
I recall him being interviewed when the Lambert tour was announced, and he basically said that Lambert was inexperienced and would struggle to cope with the scale of it, and wouldn't be able to do it vocally. The truth is Lambert learned very quickly and grew into the job and now looks right at home, and they actually look and sound like 'a band' together.
Vocally he has delivered every show and only had one or two missed shows due to a specific illness.
Rodgers started off brilliantly at the UK Hall of Fame
thing on two songs, then got worse as time went on - ducking out of songs he either couldn't sing or hadn't learnt, and always seeming not quite
comfortable in that setting, which is some feat for
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Yes I think Lambert has been doing a great job, because he seems to understand the band, the legacy, THE SONGS and the audience. He's ,
Made the effort to fit n. Something I don't think Rodgers really did. He had a more take me or leave me approach
The hall of fame did offer huge hope, which I don't believe he lived up too, in the long run. But even at that gig he missed the chorus of Champions once or twice and even, if memory Serves me right, at one point turned to the backing singers and said get it right!
Oscar J · Member since
tomchristie: Well, first "And visions of one sweet union" comes to early. Then Roger, the hamfisted sod, comes in at beat four in the bar, further screwing everything up. Don't blame the poor background singers for the resulting trainwreck. :)
Apocalipsis_Darko · Member since
Paul Rodgers is a legend. He was not the right decission to some Queen songs but....an american idol singer who even not know all the albums of Queen before he toured with May and Taylor?
The King Of Rhye · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Apocalipsis_Darko wrote:[/b]
Paul Rodgers is a legend. He was not the right decission to some Queen songs but....an american idol singer who even not know all the albums of Queen before he toured with May and Taylor?[/QUOTE]
So freakin' what if Adam's an 'American Idol singer'? (btw that was 6 years and 3 albums ago) Actually, my first thought when I heard about the collaboration was something along those lines. Something like "they're going from a rock legend to some American Idol guy? Hell no!" But I was open-minded enough that when I heard there would be a tour, I checked out some of their earlier concerts, and even Adam's solo music, and decided he was pretty good after all. Maybe he doesn't have encyclopedic knowledge of every album and song, but to me he sure as hell sounds good doing the Queen songs he does sing, and seems to have a genuine appreciation of the music, and of Freddie, for that matter.
musicland munich · Member since
I think people should curb their enthusiasm about bashing Paul Rodgers. As for that above mentioned Link...Freddie himself has forgotten the Lyrics for Queen songs himself now and then.
Of course the two minutes Clip is bad somehow, but the performance of Brian also wasn`t superb imho.
One of the YTusers comments point in the direction that Bri starts the song too fast...MAYBE he did, but that can`t be an excuse for a bad performance on a professional level. The other musicians are good enough to catch up with a slighly faster speed.
As for how or better why it ends..It just doesn`t fit ! Rodgers style of singing mixed with Queen songs...meh...bad idea but not his fault in general.
Apocalipsis_Darko · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The King Of Rhye wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Apocalipsis_Darko wrote:[/b]
Paul Rodgers is a legend. He was not the right decission to some Queen songs but....an american idol singer who even not know all the albums of Queen before he toured with May and Taylor?[/QUOTE]
So freakin' what if Adam's an 'American Idol singer'? (btw that was 6 years and 3 albums ago) Actually, my first thought when I heard about the collaboration was something along those lines. Something like "they're going from a rock legend to some American Idol guy? Hell no!" But I was open-minded enough that when I heard there would be a tour, I checked out some of their earlier concerts, and even Adam's solo music, and decided he was pretty good after all. Maybe he doesn't have encyclopedic knowledge of every album and song, but to me he sure as hell sounds good doing the Queen songs he does sing, and seems to have a genuine appreciation of the music, and of Freddie, for that matter.
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I listened the Adam Lambert albums, and saw the shows with May and Taylor, because I always preffer to give an opinion with knowledge. I`m still thinking the same.
Doga · Member since
The Paul Rodgers collaboration didn't ended in time. If they stoped at the end of the Return of the Champions Tour, after that big show at Hyde Park they still be in good terms and everybody will consider the union a success, but the Cosmos Rock era killed all that. Of course no one would know that in 2007.
Marknow · Member since
Anybody who thinks PR was a better fit to Queen than Al needs to get their shit together. A lot of people walked away in disgust when AL came along simply because he didn't have enough lineage or credibility, they missed out big time. Don't get me wrong, Paul is a great artist and I love him forever for helping to kick start Queen+ live but Adam is more suited to Queen by light years and he's brought a new audience with him. There is so much energy and momentum behind Q+AL that was never there with Paul. Q+AL is far from over, believe me, and I'm fucking delighted about that. :)
Marknow · Member since
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Apocalipsis_Darko · Member since
If you don't know about music Marknow, is not my problem . Paul Rodgers was a classic rock singer with Free before Queen recorded their first album. There¡s more music out there than Queen.MMM, you can listen Prince or Roberta Flak, Freddie liked them, perhaps you need always a link.
Of course, the perfect fit for Queen would be George Michael in 1993, but...there's no Queen.
winterspelt · Member since
People look the PR collaboration in a very unfair point of view: We all know how it started and how it ended. We know how the AL collaboration started but dont know how it will end.
While I prefer Q+AL over Q+PR, there's no way to deny that both singers have a very different approach to the songs.
The topic is not about who is "better" or "worst" Which one is better? It depends on a personal taste:
Queen, Queen+PR/AL had many mistakes in the past, shit happens. But, if we look at the amount of success, its clear that the Q+AL collaboration is a success in both music and economic level.
Now, back on topic, I think Q+PR could do some amazing music under another circumstances but they recorded TCR when Brian was busy doing other stuff and it seems that Roger and Paul dont get along at all.
What a shame...
ggo1 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Apocalipsis_Darko wrote:[/b]
If you don't know about music Marknow, is not my problem . Paul Rodgers was a classic rock singer with Free before Queen recorded their first album. There¡s more music out there than Queen.MMM, you can listen Prince or Roberta Flak, Freddie liked them, perhaps you need always a link.
Of course, the perfect fit for Queen would be George Michael in 1993, but...there's no Queen.[/QUOTE]
George Michael singing Hammer To Fall, One Vision, Stone Cold Crazy, Tie Your Mother Down? no no no... The wonder of Freddie was his ability to sing all types of songs, Geogre Michael was amazing on STL at the tribute and would have been excellent on the poppier songs, but I really don't see him singing the whole catalog. A fabulous pop or soul voice is not enough to front Queen.
I'm a huge fan of Paul Rodgers and I was thrilled when he toured with Queen, but it never felt like a Queen show. It was good, I enjoyed it, but it always sounded a little forced to me, and whatever the reason for it ending, in the long run it has turned out for the best, because...
Adam Lambert... I think they sound like Queen again, his voice is different to Freddies, which is a good thing, it stops it being karaoke but the overall show is more Queen than anything we've seen since... well... Queen. They look like a band, they look like they are having fun. I'm loving it.
Apocalipsis_Darko · Member since
George Michael also sang perfect 39, an acoustic song.
Nobody knows if George Michael could sang that songs, if he never did it. The same for Lambert before he did it....the fried chicken gesture by Lambert in Rio the other night...wooow...that was "a kind of magic"...
Martin Packer · Member since
One other difference between QPR and QAL is that the former actually produced some NEW music - whatever you think of it. The latter HASN'T - so far. Nice that they're playing "Ghost Town" now but I don't see Adam Lambert as a writer YET.
So it would be interesting to see what new recordings could look like, and the extent to which Adam would write.
