Biggest mistake in their career?

think of NATO - that had a couple of vaudeville ditty's that you could put on par with Delilah, etc.

The biggest mistake was undoubtedly Sun City - that nearly destroyed Queen. Letting themselves be used as tools for apartheid-propaganda was disgusting and insanely stupid.

Paul Prenter was a cunt, but Jim weren't that bad really was he?

[QUOTE] [b]stevelondon20 wrote:[/b]

Paul Prenter was a cunt, but Jim weren't that bad really was he?[/QUOTE]
I judge by the activities after 1991. Jim Beach IS the key-decision maker in Queen camp.

[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]

The biggest mistake was undoubtedly Sun City - that nearly destroyed Queen. Letting themselves be used as tools for apartheid-propaganda was disgusting and insanely stupid.[/QUOTE]

I don't see why. They played in Argentina, where the goverment killed thousands of people in cold blood, and people didn't make a fuss about playing there.

In both cases, Argentina and South Africa they were playing for the people, not the goverment. And nowdays bands are starting to play in China, where human rights are systematically ignored, and is ok.

In my opinion the Sun City affair was a case of double standards.

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[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]

The biggest mistake was undoubtedly Sun City - that nearly destroyed Queen. Letting themselves be used as tools for apartheid-propaganda was disgusting and insanely stupid.[/QUOTE]

I don't see why. They played in Argentina, where the goverment killed thousands of people in cold blood, and people didn't make a fuss about playing there.

In both cases, Argentina and South Africa they were playing for the people, not the goverment. And nowdays bands are starting to play in China, where human rights are systematically ignored, and is ok.

In my opinion the Sun City affair was a case of double standards.[/QUOTE]

Of course you're correct in principle, but Apartheid became a worldwide and emotionally driven issue by the mid 80s. The Argentina situation just doesn't remotely compare.

South Africa almost tore the band apart. If it wasn't for Live Aid, the band would've broken up after that tour.

But the undisputed champion for the worst decision Queen ever made was not kicking Paul Prenter to the curb before 1986. Some of the worst things that ever happened to the band were directly or indirectly linked to him.

[QUOTE] [b]British Man wrote:[/b]
Let's look at this album in depth.
Party- 4/10 Unneccesary Filler
Khashoggi's Ship- 6/10 Not bad Filler
The Miracle- 6/10 Not bad Filler
I Want It All- 8/10 Way too much airplay.
The Invisible Man- 7/10 Not bad.
Breakthru- 5/10 Weak filler
Rain Must Fall- 5/10 Weak filler
Scandal- 6/10 Mediocre
My Baby Does Me- 3/10.
Was It All Worth It- 10/10 masterpiece.
Hang On In There- 5/10 Mediocre
Chinese Torture- 7/10 When a short instrumental track is one of the highlights of the album, that's maybe a sign of failure.
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that ^^^ is about as far removed from "in depth" as anyone can get.
a series of numbers and one/two word summations constitutes little more than a "shallow scratching of the surface"

I love Brenski's comment :P

[QUOTE] [b]Gregsynth wrote:[/b]

I love Brenski's comment :P[/QUOTE]

cheers (i think)

Despite containing the worst song in their catalogue (My Baby Does Me) and some sadly aged production, I still really enjoy The Miracle. I think the 2011 2-disc edition is very nice. A good body of work. Lots of energy.

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[QUOTE] [b]stevelondon20 wrote:[/b]

Paul Prenter was a cunt, but Jim weren't that bad really was he?[/QUOTE]
I judge by the activities after 1991. Jim Beach IS the key-decision maker in Queen camp.
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I think that's unfair to Jim Beach. Remember, it was his call that got that lavish Freddie Mercury Solo Set released back around the turn of the century. I'd say the Queen releases that we have and haven't got over the years are more on Brian and Roger than Jim. He's just overseeing what they approve to release.

Sun City was a pretty bad decision. They really did end up letting the government down there use them and make them look bad to the rest of the world.

Paul Prenter was also a bad idea. Not only did he have Freddie's ear with some bad ideas (hello "Hot Space"), but then he went and turned on Freddie for a pay day.

I'd also throw Norman Sheffield into the mix. His "management" of the band almost derailed them just as they were starting to gain steam with the public.

The Miracle is the best album in so many aspects,therefore the biggest mistake is using the brand Queen for stupid collaborations like A.Lambert and Paul... i forgot his name,which tried to sing Freddy's songs.

[QUOTE] [b]queenfanbg wrote:[/b]

The Miracle is the best album in so many aspects,therefore the biggest mistake is using the brand Queen for stupid collaborations like A.Lambert and Paul... i forgot his name,which tried to sing Freddy's songs.[/QUOTE]

Seems like you forgot "Freddie's" name too.

....putting Greg Brooks on their paylist! :-)

Edit: I just remembered Flash Gordon. No good songs :P. (But still, It's a soundtrack, not an album)
Oh and excluding the studio albums, GH3 is pretty tragic.