Musicland Munich, I think we all agree on the shadiness of Prenter's character. I only debate the rewriting of the Queen history by blaming the problems the band had in the 80s on this one minor factor.The tabloid sell-out happened after Freddie had fired Prenter at a time when the band had solved many of the issues that led to the near break-up.
Bob, I totally agree about the band's ability to cover up unwanted issues - which is perfectly understandable. Nobody wants to wash the dirty laundry in public. It is useless to discuss if Freddie had left the band if "Bad Guy" had been a success but it was Freddie who always explained in public why he was NOT leaving the band - because it would be "stupid to kill the goose who laid the golden egg". In fact, he was very open about his distance to the other members, often laughing it away. I think we can agree that there was not much love between the band members before Live Aid.
Mike, there are tons of Brian May interviews, you just need to watch them. He has stated many times on camera and off camera how hurting it was for him that JD did not want his guitar on his precious disco songs. Personally, I believe that Brian must have made the biggest compromises to save the band, for example leaving the "Under Pressure" recording because his advice was not wanted but playing it on all concerts afterwards takes a big personality. The same with IWTBF - funny how you have a world famous guitar player in your band and insist on a keyboard solo! However, Brian played the solo on all concerts on his guitar.
Day dop · Member since
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[b]Panchgani wrote: [/b] [QUOTE]
[b]YourValentine wrote: [/b] We have heard about the problem with the "Works" album, how John Deacon bullied Brian out of his role in the band [/QUOTE]
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Interesting.
Source Please?[/QUOTE] It's official. John Deacon is a bully.
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]YourValentine wrote:[/b]
I do not believe that Freddie ever thought he did not need Queen.[/QUOTE]
Well, he did.
He got a far bigger advance for Mr Bad Guy than Queen got for The Works, which caused an even bigger rift in the band.
Had his album not flopped and had Live Aid not happened, you can bet your life that Mercury would have left the band.
Brian and Roger have never been forthcoming in
talking about this period, but it was an extremely dark one. They've done very well in keeping under
wraps how bad things really were.
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Very true. In fact there is an interview with Freddie on film in which he says something like Queen isn't the only thing musically in his life and you have to move on, he gies on to say "by that I mean leave the band" this was at the time of Bad Guy. He was certainly thinking of a solo career had that album taken off.
I think the lack of sales brought him back to reality.
I would go as far as saying he probably did leave, but never got as far as making it public for what ever reason.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]musicland munich wrote:[/b]
Prenter`s influence on the band maybe is for debate. But I can vouch for one thing. As soon he had the information that Freddie has developed AIDS, he walks straight to the press. Not much of a thinking process before he betrayed him. Pure criminal instict !
The Press comes up with it in early / mid May 87`. Knowing that Freddie had his result short before, clearly shows that attitude.[/QUOTE]
Hard to know if Prenter was around then. He was canned in 86, the same year Mercury found out he was ill.
Either way, it was pure revenge.
musicland munich · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]musicland munich wrote:[/b]
Prenter`s influence on the band maybe is for debate. But I can vouch for one thing. As soon he had the information that Freddie has developed AIDS, he walks straight to the press. Not much of a thinking process before he betrayed him. Pure criminal instict !
The Press comes up with it in early / mid May 87`. Knowing that Freddie had his result short before, clearly shows that attitude.[/QUOTE]
Hard to know if Prenter was around then. He was canned in 86, the same year Mercury found out he was ill.
Either way, it was pure revenge.
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Freddie called Prenter on the phone, because of that (result and the fact that two of his former Lover`s have died ), and was "complaining" about his situation.
YourValentine · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
Very true. In fact there is an interview with Freddie on film in which he says something like Queen isn't the only thing musically in his life and you have to move on, he gies on to say "by that I mean leave the band" this was at the time of Bad Guy. He was certainly thinking of a solo career had that album taken off.
I think the lack of sales brought him back to reality.
I would go as far as saying he probably did leave, but never got as far as making it public for what ever reason.
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Please specify this interview, I never saw it. I know the "Bad Guy" interview with David Wigg and the other "big" one - I think with Japanese TV. He never once said he was thinking of leaving Queen, so you must refer to another interview, which one is it?
Mark_Glasgow · Member since
If we are talking whilst Freddie was alive I would say releasing an album as weak as AKOM after their performance at Live Aid.
If we are going up to present day.....The Cosmos Rocks is by far the biggest fuck up!!
Ivo-1976 · Member since
Biggest mistake i.m.o. was Freddie completely loosing himself in the gay party scene. Too much drugs and alcohol, too much sex, he didn't write a decent song in years and in the end it cost him his life.
From "March of the Black Queen" to "Body Language", it was complete madness.
Freddie was an all-or-nothing kind of guy, such a shame he could't control himself a bit more when it really mattered.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Ivo-1976 wrote:[/b]
Biggest mistake i.m.o. was Freddie completely loosing himself in the gay party scene. Too much drugs and alcohol, too much sex, he didn't write a decent song in years and in the end it cost him his life.
From "March of the Black Queen" to "Body Language", it was complete madness.
Freddie was an all-or-nothing kind of guy, such a shame he could't control himself a bit more when it really mattered.[/QUOTE]
Bearing in mind that Killer Queen and BoRhap were about his sexuality ... sometimes the thing that makes you great is also your worst enemy. It's a package deal.
