This one happened in San Bernardino, California. It is about 60 miles east of Los Angeles. I'm very familiar with this area growing up playing soccer (football) on their complexes. No words...
This doesn't even take into account the '1 dead/4 injured' type of shootings that take place almost monthly in Baltimore (or insert Detroit, DC, Philly, Chicago, et al)
UNC was in lockdown earlier. Washington College in Maryland (that my niece attends) was in lockdown for a week last month.
It also doesn't have the nut in Colorado Springs listed from last week, or..........
magicalfreddiemercury · Member since
It's been three years since a madman gunned down 20 young children while they huddled in their classrooms. In heartbreak and agony, their grieving parents pleaded for gun reform, and those parents were shut down. Completely. Within the past few months, a news reporter and her cameraman were shot to death live on TV. The reporter's father vowed that politicians would listen to him and make changes to gun laws. Nothing happened. Other news made the headlines and the limited attention span of the American public shifted, their outrage forgotten, their demands for gun reform morphing into talks of boycotting Starbucks because of the supposed anti-christmas design of their coffee cups. The only rallying cry that's been sustained from the beginning has been the one insisting everyone should be armed as a way to deter other would-be shooters.
If we, as a country, can watch children die, watch a man and a woman die during a live segment of the morning news, and not relentlessly demand change, then these shootings are going to continue to occur and we have no one to blame but ourselves.
The Real Wizard · Member since
With each passing shooting, the lobbyists win again.
America - if you want anything to change, stop voting for politicians who are in the NRA's back pocket.
But America is more interested in the second amendment than the 30,000 gun deaths they see annually.
Even if we blame the politicians, there's a bigger problem - nobody is protesting. You can bet your life that if any other remotely civilized country saw 1 in 10,000 of their citizens (do the math, folks) were gunned down every year, people would be quitting their jobs and taking to the streets.
But not in America. 99% of the people are lovely, but completely ignorant of affairs both domestically and outside their borders. They're bought off with news about Kim Kardashian and their new iPhone that can make pancakes.
And it's only going to get worse. Buckle up - it's going to be a bumpy ride. And just make sure it's not you.
pittrek · Member since
And the killers were muslims. What a shock.
magicalfreddiemercury · Member since
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[b]pittrek wrote: [/b] And the killers were muslims. What a shock.[/QUOTE]
Actually, it was a shock to me. I expected Christian fundamentalists. Seems crazy and depraved comes from all sides.
Beyond that, I love the Daily News front page. Brilliant and bold. I just might have to buy a subscription.
Here's the article -
[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gop-candidates-call-prayers-calf-massacre-article-1.2453261]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gop-candidates-call-prayers-calf-massacre-article-1.2453261[/url]
Here's the front page:.
magicalfreddiemercury · Member since
Double post.
*goodco* · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
And the killers were muslims. What a shock.[/QUOTE]
Charleston, SC church...Caucasian
Sandy Hook, NY school....Caucasian
DeKalb, IL university....Caucasian
Aurora, CO movie theater....Caucasian
Roseberg, OR community college....Caucasian
Just type in a state with 'mass shooting' after it into google, and who do you find as the shooters? We've only had 355 mass shootings THIS YEAR. Muslims probably account for two.
This is such an odd one. A married couple, drop off their six month old with his grandmother, heads to his work xmas party at a rented area, leaves and walks back in with his wife, and wastes 'fellow' employees (that he'd worked with for five years) who had thrown a baby shower for him months earlier.
We'll find out more later about her, and what sort of brainwashing took place this year.
oh, and WE know how to make these incidents less common, but are stalled by the 10% brick wall. People of both political parties are in agreement of certain changes needed, but the brick wall (NRA) politicians won't budge.
Rather than action, it is always 'HOPES AND PRAYERS'.......
Costa86 · Member since
Offering prayers is probably the most useless and idiotic thing anyone can do. The only reason politicians in the US invoke that sort of God-related inanity is because it offers some outdated symbol of devotion to God, which appeals to the many brain dead Americans.
Not only does it do absolutely nothing to alleviate the pain of the victims and their families, but it also perpetuates the unbelievably backward belief that there is some God who is able to control things according to his whims and fancies, but somehow might decide to do certain things differently if he receives prayers from people.
It makes me cringe everytime some piece of shit politician, or anyone for that matter, says that they'll be "praying" for people involved in these tragedies. It also highlights the complete lack of intelligence and logical thinking in people who actually believe this bullcrap - if God will help someone simply because you pray for them, why did he let the event happen in the first place?
Prayer serves two purposes folks: to make the person praying feel better about him/herself; and to uphold stupid religious dogmas which are still pervasive in the US, and will continue to be as long as useless people like Obama keep proclaiming their belief in a man in the sky.
*goodco* · Member since
^
He did offer up a plan back in 2013, hoping for some discussions, and for a proposal to be enacted for him to sign.
The Dems worked on a proposal, but .....nothing has ever made it to a vote, because it is constantly blocked.
There was a fairly reasonable law for years, called 'The Brady Bill'....named for Reagan's WH Secretary who was severely injured during the assassination attempt (which even Reagan and Bush 41 agreed on). Took a dozen years to enact.....and then GW let the assault weapon ban slide in 2004.
'You can be on the no-fly list, but it's un-American for you to have your gawd given rights to a gun taken away.' oy
matt z · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]*goodco* wrote:[/b]
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He did offer up a plan back in 2013, hoping for some discussions, and for a proposal to be enacted for him to sign.
The Dems worked on a proposal, but .....nothing has ever made it to a vote, because it is constantly blocked.
There was a fairly reasonable law for years, called 'The Brady Bill'....named for Reagan's WH Secretary who was severely injured during the assassination attempt (which even Reagan and Bush 41 agreed on). Took a dozen years to enact.....and then GW let the assault weapon ban slide in 2004.
'You can be on the no-fly list, but it's un-American for you to have your gawd given rights to a gun taken away.' oy[/QUOTE]
The USA constitutes a large geographic body. Any attempt to enforce anti gun legislation might be met with significant violence in the red states
Saint Jiub · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]*goodco* wrote:[/b]
^
He did offer up a plan back in 2013, hoping for some discussions, and for a proposal to be enacted for him to sign.
The Dems worked on a proposal, but .....nothing has ever made it to a vote, because it is constantly blocked.
There was a fairly reasonable law for years, called 'The Brady Bill'....named for Reagan's WH Secretary who was severely injured during the assassination attempt (which even Reagan and Bush 41 agreed on). Took a dozen years to enact.....and then GW let the assault weapon ban slide in 2004.
'You can be on the no-fly list, but it's un-American for you to have your gawd given rights to a gun taken away.' oy[/QUOTE]
The USA constitutes a large geographic body. Any attempt to enforce anti gun legislation might be met with significant violence in the red states[/QUOTE]
The killing couple bought their assault weapons legally.
What about banning assualt weapons? They were illegal back in 2004.
YourValentine · Member since
There is a reason why assault weapons are called assault weapons and not "self-defense weapons"
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
And the killers were muslims. What a shock.[/QUOTE]
Earlier this week, a Christian anti-Obama fanatic killed 3 and injured 9 at a Planned Parenthood clinic. Immediately, the American Christian right began looking for excuses - he was actually a "transgender leftist activist" (Ted Cruz), Planned Parenthood was " the real culprit behind this violence" (Colorado State Representative JoAnn Windholz).
American conservative Christian groups (translation: dangerous violent extremist Christian nutjobs) have come up with apologetics to justify this act of terrorism. In fact, you can't even call it terrorism. Some even call it patriotism.
But you, Pittrek, choose to ignore the far-right and Christian violence. You only come crawling out of the woodwork to spew your Islamophobe gall.
So what is it, Pittrek? Are you a racist? Or, as I suspect, are you merely a dumb, scared little man who doesn't have a clue about reality but likes to spew his fact-free bigoted gall nonetheless?
I've had it with the scum who try to pin everything on Muslims when, in fact, these past fifteen years fundamentalist Christians have been effectively destroying our secular society. I live in a civilized European country, and I experience the efforts of ultra-conservative Christians to force their religious views on society on a daily basis. It's much worse in America and in other European countries. And people like you are helping these Christian fanatics by deflecting attention to Muslims. You're doing Anders Breivik's propaganda-work for him.
Fuck you, you pathetic piece of shit.
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]*goodco* wrote:[/b]
^
He did offer up a plan back in 2013, hoping for some discussions, and for a proposal to be enacted for him to sign.
The Dems worked on a proposal, but .....nothing has ever made it to a vote, because it is constantly blocked.
There was a fairly reasonable law for years, called 'The Brady Bill'....named for Reagan's WH Secretary who was severely injured during the assassination attempt (which even Reagan and Bush 41 agreed on). Took a dozen years to enact.....and then GW let the assault weapon ban slide in 2004.
'You can be on the no-fly list, but it's un-American for you to have your gawd given rights to a gun taken away.' oy[/QUOTE]
The USA constitutes a large geographic body. Any attempt to enforce anti gun legislation might be met with significant violence in the red states[/QUOTE]
Sadly, gun-fetishes aren't limited to the red states. Even a guy like Bernie Sanders, who's as far to the left as a Democratic candidate is going to get, is a gun-loving nut.
