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I didn't mean any offence to brians wig, my comment a few posts back was only based on an quick visual observation.
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Yeah Barry, I had to re-encode it to play on my standalone player too. It must be something with the BBC stream because I've had the same thing with recent BBC rips by ELO & Muse. Macroblock-adaptive frame-field perhaps?
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interesting.
Plays back fine through my panasonic smart TV and through a WDTV media player.
ts files are strange things and always have been!
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Ken8 wrote:

Yeah Barry, I had to re-encode it to play on my standalone player too. It must be something with the BBC stream because I've had the same thing with recent BBC rips by ELO & Muse. Macroblock-adaptive frame-field perhaps?

Can I ask what you changed in the re-encoding process?

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Thanks. Merry Christmas!
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Barry Durex wrote:

Ken8 wrote:

Yeah Barry, I had to re-encode it to play on my standalone player too. It must be something with the BBC stream because I've had the same thing with recent BBC rips by ELO & Muse. Macroblock-adaptive frame-field perhaps?

Can I ask what you changed in the re-encoding process?



I just deinterlaced it to progressive 25fps at a higher bitrate to preserve the quality. Plays fine now

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Thanks ken8, what was the higher bitrate you used?
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Ken8, and what about image smothness? Is it still the same as the original? You also need to pay atention to the fields per second, frames per second thingy.

That is what gets in my nerves when i'm trying to find BBC programs in the internet. If release groups only want to release 720p files, it's ok and fine by me, smaller file size, etc. But when they release 1080, they choose to re-encode to P instead of sharing the original i. And that means "goodbye smooth image". And i never really inderstood why.

Example: the last series of Top Gear it was very hard to find the 1080i ts files. But before i found them, i downloaded 1080p files, sometimes with almost double the file size of the original ts ones, and it was like i was been stabed in the eyes because there was no smoothness in the studio segments like the 1080i files had. And release groups think those are good files. And people downloading them thought the same!

There are other countless examples of 1080p files from BBC programs, And still i can't see why they bother to re-encode 1080i to 1080p and loosing the original image smoothness. If they are going to release 1080 files, why not release the original ones and let people decide what to do with them?
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I used 10.5mbps, came out to just under 5gig. More than required but who cares!

Plays fine Popy, smooth as the interlaced version. The two fields combine to give you one progressive frame, instead of 50 fields per second you now get 25 progressive frames per second
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Thanks ken8, I'll give that a try.
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Thank you very much! That's a nice hour of watching new interview sections and behind the scenes material. And at least it's typical that a few months ago I read in the book, that you can find in the studio collection box, that all Top Of The Pops footage of Now I'm Here was destroyed by the BBC, just to see half of the performance today in this docmentary labeled as recently discovered. Surprise surprise!

regards,
W.
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Thx! Loved it!
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Hmm... it looks like you finally got convinced of using MKV instead of those old-fashioned AVIs or VOBs. I like it :)
Don't forget my collection of demos and outtakes: http://goo.gl/uQARhn PM me if you want any [leaked] multitrack. Ya se ven los tigres en la lluvia.
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Vob container can't be used for an HD video.
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Ken8 wrote:
Barry Durex wrote:
Ken8 wrote:
Yeah Barry, I had to re-encode it to play on my standalone player too. It must be something with the BBC stream because I've had the same thing with recent BBC rips by ELO & Muse. Macroblock-adaptive frame-field perhaps?

Can I ask what you changed in the re-encoding process?

I just deinterlaced it to progressive 25fps at a higher bitrate to preserve the quality. Plays fine now

This also worked for me, thanks for the tip.