[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]
John's left index finger will give me nightmares for ever.....[/QUOTE]
Haha, never noticed that. Creepy indeed.
Pretty happy with what I'm hearing so far!
joerijoerijoeri
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The Real Wizard
Interesting - in Doing All Right, the bit of guitar feedback at 3:44 has been removed.
Is this OK, or are the purists mortified and soon to compare this to George Lucas messing with the original Star Wars films for the DVD releases?
Is this OK, or are the purists mortified and soon to compare this to George Lucas messing with the original Star Wars films for the DVD releases?
Nitroboy
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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] Interesting - in Doing All Right, the bit of guitar feedback at 3:44 has been removed.
Is this OK, or are the purists mortified and soon to compare this to George Lucas messing with the original Star Wars films for the DVD releases? [/QUOTE]
Interesting stuff.
Semi off-topic, but I kind of liked the feedback on the Ogre Battle intro from Rainbow March, 1974
[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] Interesting - in Doing All Right, the bit of guitar feedback at 3:44 has been removed.
Is this OK, or are the purists mortified and soon to compare this to George Lucas messing with the original Star Wars films for the DVD releases? [/QUOTE]
Interesting stuff.
Semi off-topic, but I kind of liked the feedback on the Ogre Battle intro from Rainbow March, 1974
The Real Wizard
Another thing about Doing All Right, which is also on the 1989/95 releases but I just never noticed - the acoustic guitar continues at the end until 4:00. Lovely touch.
And the vocals are completely different there. A bit more timid and less polished than the album version, but still pretty damn gorgeous.
And the vocals are completely different there. A bit more timid and less polished than the album version, but still pretty damn gorgeous.
pittrek
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
Interesting - in Doing All Right, the bit of guitar feedback at 3:44 has been removed.
Is this OK, or are the purists mortified and soon to compare this to George Lucas messing with the original Star Wars films for the DVD releases?
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Oh, I felt like it sounds a bit different than I remember, but couldn't find out why.
Interesting - in Doing All Right, the bit of guitar feedback at 3:44 has been removed.
Is this OK, or are the purists mortified and soon to compare this to George Lucas messing with the original Star Wars films for the DVD releases?
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Oh, I felt like it sounds a bit different than I remember, but couldn't find out why.
Oscar J
Listening to Golders Green now. It’s squeaky clean, and Deacon and, in particular, Taylor are very loud in the mix. Freddie is still a bit buried unfortunately
Interesting though how a mix from 1973 can (instrumentally) still sound better than what they managed with Hammy 75 in 2015. There’s a nice and punchy tape compression and all the instruments, every tom on Taylors kit is clear as a day, and his snare never sounded better - being tuned higher than usual with a lovely crack to it.
This show just highlights the band - it's one of few shows that aren't mainly about Freddie when listening back to it.
Interesting though how a mix from 1973 can (instrumentally) still sound better than what they managed with Hammy 75 in 2015. There’s a nice and punchy tape compression and all the instruments, every tom on Taylors kit is clear as a day, and his snare never sounded better - being tuned higher than usual with a lovely crack to it.
This show just highlights the band - it's one of few shows that aren't mainly about Freddie when listening back to it.
tcc
[QUOTE] [b]Oscar J wrote:[/b]
Listening to Golders Green now. It’s squeaky clean, and Deacon and, in particular, Taylor are very loud in the mix. Freddie is still a bit buried unfortunately
Interesting though how a mix from 1973 can (instrumentally) still sound better than what they managed with Hammy 75 in 2015. There’s a nice and punchy tape compression and all the instruments, every tom on Taylors kit is clear as a day, and his snare never sounded better - being tuned higher than usual with a lovely crack to it.
This show just highlights the band - it's one of few shows that aren't mainly about Freddie when listening back to it. [/QUOTE]
If Freddie still sounds distant, could it be that this release is also from a bootleg ?
Listening to Golders Green now. It’s squeaky clean, and Deacon and, in particular, Taylor are very loud in the mix. Freddie is still a bit buried unfortunately
Interesting though how a mix from 1973 can (instrumentally) still sound better than what they managed with Hammy 75 in 2015. There’s a nice and punchy tape compression and all the instruments, every tom on Taylors kit is clear as a day, and his snare never sounded better - being tuned higher than usual with a lovely crack to it.
This show just highlights the band - it's one of few shows that aren't mainly about Freddie when listening back to it. [/QUOTE]
If Freddie still sounds distant, could it be that this release is also from a bootleg ?
joesilvey
[QUOTE] [b]tcc wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Oscar J wrote:[/b]
Listening to Golders Green now. It’s squeaky clean, and Deacon and, in particular, Taylor are very loud in the mix. Freddie is still a bit buried unfortunately
Interesting though how a mix from 1973 can (instrumentally) still sound better than what they managed with Hammy 75 in 2015. There’s a nice and punchy tape compression and all the instruments, every tom on Taylors kit is clear as a day, and his snare never sounded better - being tuned higher than usual with a lovely crack to it.
This show just highlights the band - it's one of few shows that aren't mainly about Freddie when listening back to it. [/QUOTE]
If Freddie still sounds distant, could it be that this release is also from a bootleg ?[/QUOTE]
I went back to that post from 10 years ago where Greg Brooks listed all the audio of live shows they had in the vault, and was intrigued that Golder's Green wasn't listed... so either it was discovered since then, or purchased from someone - and the fact that Freddie is still buried in the mix tells me that they only had a stereo mix to work from. EQ can do wonders, especially if it was a pre-FM source...
[QUOTE] [b]Oscar J wrote:[/b]
Listening to Golders Green now. It’s squeaky clean, and Deacon and, in particular, Taylor are very loud in the mix. Freddie is still a bit buried unfortunately
Interesting though how a mix from 1973 can (instrumentally) still sound better than what they managed with Hammy 75 in 2015. There’s a nice and punchy tape compression and all the instruments, every tom on Taylors kit is clear as a day, and his snare never sounded better - being tuned higher than usual with a lovely crack to it.
This show just highlights the band - it's one of few shows that aren't mainly about Freddie when listening back to it. [/QUOTE]
If Freddie still sounds distant, could it be that this release is also from a bootleg ?[/QUOTE]
I went back to that post from 10 years ago where Greg Brooks listed all the audio of live shows they had in the vault, and was intrigued that Golder's Green wasn't listed... so either it was discovered since then, or purchased from someone - and the fact that Freddie is still buried in the mix tells me that they only had a stereo mix to work from. EQ can do wonders, especially if it was a pre-FM source...
The Real Wizard
Another little difference:
In session 2, Son And Daughter @ 0:48 to 0:50, they've removed Brian's little guitar feedback.
Once again, the perfectionism is pretty over the top.
But at least they didn't autotune Mercury's vocals like Hammersmith...
In session 2, Son And Daughter @ 0:48 to 0:50, they've removed Brian's little guitar feedback.
Once again, the perfectionism is pretty over the top.
But at least they didn't autotune Mercury's vocals like Hammersmith...
cmi
[b]About Live CD: [/b]
It's the most shameful part of the set....
Golders Green Hippodrome concert sounds so clean and enjoyable, but they cut almost 3 songs from it.... :((
Especially it's a pity about See What A Fool I've Been as it's distorted on the bootleg source.
I've noticed that 'Radio One' line in the introduction is not edited out, also snippet before 'Son And Daughter' with small remark by probably Freddie is also in place as in the acetate.
Jailhouse Rock is one minute long and fades out but 'Bama Lama' still mentioned by presentor before medley.
It seems to me it's a slightly different mix as waveform doesn't match the QDA and acetate sources especially on S&D guitar solo. Possibly stereo pan was slightly narrowed.
Morumbi Stadium '81 recording is probably an off-air MONO recording with DJ talk in places. Sounds better than any known source. It'll be great to have the whole broadcast of this show... but not with QPL.... :(
Mannheim '86 is probably a pre-FM recording, sounds excellent and cleaner than known sources. There's a cut near 16 kHz, so it was taken not directly from analogue source.
GGH '73 source is the most enjoyable quality recording of all 3 shows pesented here. It's really a crime to truncate this show to feature more tracks from other two... I'm not talking that this show is the only one related to BBC and must be in the main part of the set as 'In Concert' program feature.
[b]About DJ talk:[/b]
All songs except last 2 feature small speeches before or after them. These speeches slightly overlap songs on fade out. So if you need clean versions, you need 2 CD version as well.
It's the most shameful part of the set....
Golders Green Hippodrome concert sounds so clean and enjoyable, but they cut almost 3 songs from it.... :((
Especially it's a pity about See What A Fool I've Been as it's distorted on the bootleg source.
I've noticed that 'Radio One' line in the introduction is not edited out, also snippet before 'Son And Daughter' with small remark by probably Freddie is also in place as in the acetate.
Jailhouse Rock is one minute long and fades out but 'Bama Lama' still mentioned by presentor before medley.
It seems to me it's a slightly different mix as waveform doesn't match the QDA and acetate sources especially on S&D guitar solo. Possibly stereo pan was slightly narrowed.
Morumbi Stadium '81 recording is probably an off-air MONO recording with DJ talk in places. Sounds better than any known source. It'll be great to have the whole broadcast of this show... but not with QPL.... :(
Mannheim '86 is probably a pre-FM recording, sounds excellent and cleaner than known sources. There's a cut near 16 kHz, so it was taken not directly from analogue source.
GGH '73 source is the most enjoyable quality recording of all 3 shows pesented here. It's really a crime to truncate this show to feature more tracks from other two... I'm not talking that this show is the only one related to BBC and must be in the main part of the set as 'In Concert' program feature.
[b]About DJ talk:[/b]
All songs except last 2 feature small speeches before or after them. These speeches slightly overlap songs on fade out. So if you need clean versions, you need 2 CD version as well.
calculon559
They definitely made the right call leaving the DJ talk for the 6-disc version, though if they were going to do that, why not put the songs back in broadcast order? I would have thought it would make things easier.
Then again, it could have been a lot worse. They could have released the BBC session like the 2011 remasters; a one CD version (Best of BBC?) with no double ups, and a 2 CD version with a 'bonus ep' containing the missing tracks.
Then again, it could have been a lot worse. They could have released the BBC session like the 2011 remasters; a one CD version (Best of BBC?) with no double ups, and a 2 CD version with a 'bonus ep' containing the missing tracks.
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But the DJ talk overlaps some of the fade outs, bit annoying.
calculon559
[QUOTE] [b]The Kurgan wrote:[/b]
But the DJ talk overlaps some of the fade outs.[/QUOTE]
So it IS in the right order? I thought there was a big hoo-ha about QPL reordering the songs, but I could be wrong.
But the DJ talk overlaps some of the fade outs.[/QUOTE]
So it IS in the right order? I thought there was a big hoo-ha about QPL reordering the songs, but I could be wrong.
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I'm not saying it's in the right order, does anyone really know the right order?
calculon559
Did a quick comparison of Session 5 between On Air and the russian boot In The Mirror. Looks like only SOME of the DJ talk is on the official release
Basically, chatter after a song is intact, but chatter preceding a song has been excised.
Example: "Well, that's the best thing I've heard in a long time, Queen, and 'Stone Cold Crazy' [and with a Flick of the Wrist, here's Queen]"
Basically, chatter after a song is intact, but chatter preceding a song has been excised.
Example: "Well, that's the best thing I've heard in a long time, Queen, and 'Stone Cold Crazy' [and with a Flick of the Wrist, here's Queen]"