My favorite quotes from this election (just from my memory):
Michael Bloomberg, regarding Donald Trump: "I'm a New Yorker, and I know a con when I see one".
Peggy Noonan on Hillary: She said that Hillary Clinton's irritating speaking style during speeches reminded her of her NY landlord yelling at the kids: "Get your bikes out of the hallway!"
Or something like that. As usual, I am too lazy to look up the exact quotes.
It's going to be Hillary, I'm afraid. [/QUOTE]
I am afraid you will curse the day when you thought a speaking style of a candidate disqualifies a candidate in comparison with an evil fascist who has insulted the whole world in the process of being elected. European leaders today said they are ready to work with him if he respects the human rights. Think of any other President of the USA who has met such ill will on his election day because he had already questioned all international treaties and because he has shown no respect for humanity.
Donna13 · Member since
Hillary's speaking style was terrible, but not disqualifying.
My opinion is that she didn't do enough to articulate her vision. If I could have advised her, I would have told her to never mention Trump at all; but to stay positive and talk about her vision and plans for the direction of our country - giving specific ideas about how to fix problems.
But it might have been pointless for her to give a good speech. There were already too many factors going against her (charges of corruption, hiding evidence, being "above the law", and misleading Americans during her time as Secretary of State).
pittrek · Member since
Americans had to chose between 2 evils. Don't panic and hope they chose the lesser of the evils
Mr.Jingles · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Donna13 wrote:[/b]
Hillary's speaking style was terrible, but not disqualifying.
My opinion is that she didn't do enough to articulate her vision. If I could have advised her, I would have told her to never mention Trump at all; but to stay positive and talk about her vision and plans for the direction of our country - giving specific ideas about how to fix problems.
But it might have been pointless for her to give a good speech. There were already too many factors going against her (charges of corruption, hiding evidence, being "above the law", and misleading Americans during her time as Secretary of State).[/QUOTE]
Hillary pretty much ran unopposed per wishes (and her manipulation) of the Democratic Party. They allowed Bernie Sanders in (an independent democratic socialist) only because they didn't want him to become the independent taking votes away in the general election. Biden had far more credentials and a cleaner record than Hillary, but she wanted the big cake for herself.
ParisNair · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Donna13 wrote:[/b]
Hillary's speaking style was terrible, but not disqualifying.
My opinion is that she didn't do enough to articulate her vision. If I could have advised her, I would have told her to never mention Trump at all; but to stay positive and talk about her vision and plans for the direction of our country - giving specific ideas about how to fix problems.
But it might have been pointless for her to give a good speech. There were already too many factors going against her (charges of corruption, hiding evidence, being "above the law", and misleading Americans during her time as Secretary of State).[/QUOTE]
If Hillary could not articulate her vision even after having almost total attention and positive coverage from the US media, I guess she is indeed a very poor communicator.
Lets address the elephant in the room. Trump won on the topics he picked up namely
- Build the wall
- Restrict Muslims from entering USA
- Repeal Obamacare
A huge part of the electorate hold these topics dear to their hearts. Hillary showed no empathy with the concerns of the voters on these topics.
For instance, while Trump used every terror attack anywhere in the world during the campaign to his advantage, Hillary stuck to her "Islam means peace" statements, which the common man has had enough of.
People all over the world are waking up to the idea that their government;s primary responsibility is to work and protect their citizens first rather than make politically correct statements.
If Trump manages to remain popular in the short term, we can expect to see far-rights winning in other parts of the western world.
Donna13 · Member since
Agree, Mr. Jingles. What the Democrats did to Bernie was pretty bad. They shouldn't have conspired against him. I kept wondering where Hillary's competition was on the debate stage (just two others?). It was obvious at a certain point that the Dems didn't want anyone to challenge her. I wonder if Biden actually did want to run (even though grieving his son) and was discouraged.
Donna13 · Member since
Trump wanted to run for president for a very long time, even discussing his plans as far back as when he was married to Marla Maples. I think he picked a strategic time to run when he could sense frustration peaking over certain problems that were not being solved. But I wondered over the last year if he really wanted to be president or just wanted the attention of the campaign!
Costa86 · Member since
No other way to put this, really.
A fucking disaster, and not only for the US, but for the rest of the world. Truly a year when idiocy reigned supreme, typified by Brexit and Trumpism.
Trump and Putin as friends, and the UK (the only EU military power of any worth, apart from France) out of Europe. What a fucking tragedy. Interesting times lie ahead.
God save us all.
If only he existed.
To Donna: I think not even he expected he would be elected.
pittrek · Member since
Don't be afraid, you can vote for a better candidate in 2020 : https://www.facebook.com/perlmutations/photos/a.437057366439573.1073741829.432852163526760/1022722634539707/?type=3&theater
Oscar J · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]ParisNair wrote:[/b]
For instance, while Trump used every terror attack anywhere in the world during the campaign to his advantage, Hillary stuck to her "Islam means peace" statements, which the common man has had enough of.
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You keep coming back to that, yeah. You forget to mention that more people in the US die from toddlers with guns than from islamic terror.
But if "common man" means racist simpleton, sure, you're right. 52 percent of Trump's supporters rate blacks as less evolved than whites. Furthermore, 38 percent of USA's total white population rate black as less evolved. There are no excuses for this shit, it's just appalling.
For instance, while Trump used every terror attack anywhere in the world during the campaign to his advantage, Hillary stuck to her "Islam means peace" statements, which the common man has had enough of.
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You keep coming back to that, yeah. You forget to mention that more people in the US die from toddlers with guns than from islamic terror.
But if "common man" means racist simpleton, sure, you're right. 52 percent of Trump's supporters rate blacks as less evolved than whites. Furthermore, 38 percent of USA's total white population rate black as less evolved. There are no excuses for this shit, it's just appalling.[/QUOTE]
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Sources??
Over 3000 americans have been shot and killed by toddlers?
"From 2005 to 2015, 71 Americans were killed in terrorist attacks on US soil. 301,797 were killed by gun violence during the same period. [...] In 2015, on average, a toddler in America shoots someone about once a week."
"From 2005 to 2015, 71 Americans were killed in terrorist attacks on US soil. 301,797 were killed by gun violence during the same period. [...] In 2015, on average, a toddler in America shoots someone about once a week."
1. That hysterical opinion piece is based on cherry-picked data from one year (2015) where 21 people were killed by toddlers versus 20 killed by terrorists. The study fails to mention the Orlando nightclub shooting in 2016 (50 deaths) or the 9-11 attacks in 2001 (3000+ dead).
2. That biased ultra leftist liberal rag is incapable of conducting credible research.
[b]ParisNair wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [/QUOTE] Lets address the elephant in the room. Trump won on the topics he picked up namely - Build the wall - Restrict Muslims from entering USA - Repeal Obamacare [/QUOTE]
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Actually Trumped "flipped" Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania based on protectionist trade rhetoric. ***
*** Disclaimer: I did not vote for Trump.
Oscar J · Member since
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[b]Panchgani wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [/QUOTE]
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1. That hysterical opinion piece is based on cherry-picked data from one year (2015) where 21 people were killed by toddlers versus 20 killed by terrorists. The study fails to mention the Orlando nightclub shooting in 2016 (50 deaths) or the 9-11 attacks in 2001 (3000+ dead).
2. That biased ultra leftist liberal rag is incapable of conducting credible research.
1. 9/11 was over 15 years ago, we're talking about modern times here. USA has a lot more airplane safety and the middle east situation is entirely different. And even if we do count 9/11, the number of people killed there just disappear compared to people killed by other Americans. [url=:http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/15BEB/production/_85876098_us_gun_terrorism_624_v4.png]:http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/15BEB/production/_85876098_us_gun_terrorism_624_v4.png[/url]
And oh my god, you're right. Terrorists are in 2016 almost twice as dangerous to Americans as toddles. God help us. But then toddlers had already killed 23 people in Jan-April 2016, so it'll be very exciting to see if they can fight back and take the win again in 2016.
My point being that you are on average 500 - 1000 times (!) more likely to be killed in USA's huge gun violence than in a terrorist attack. Not to mention how likely you are to die in diabetes or heart diseases, your own lifestyle and the one you force upon your children likely killing millions of Americans each year. Fear of terrorist attacks in the US is completely irrational, but Trump did a great job exposing and using that fear.
2. Since you do not believe statistics from media with different political stance from your own, here's an article in USA Today, supposedly fairly neutral according to your source: [url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/27/poll-black-prejudice-america/1662067/]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/27/poll-black-prejudice-america/1662067/[/url]
