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Hey Invisible Woman,
If Freddie stopped taking his meds, he sure did not fill me in on this during
the several trips to the Garden Lodge. I do know however in June of 1991
that I gave him some of his meds...but maybe these were not AIDS meds.
I don't remember the names of them at all. All I can think of is current AIDS
meds which certainly were not available to him in the early '90s. He may have
been on some sort of immune boosting med but I don't really know. Back then
the few meds given for this had SO many horrible side effects...perhaps he
wanted a more peaceful journey to that inevitable ending.
.I 'think' that if I had something like aggressive pancreatic cancer, I would
not want all that chemo and radiation to extend my life by a few weeks or
maybe months. Then again, when you are actually faced with death, as
many of my patient's have over the years, A survival instinct will take over
and loved ones will want you to fight...just in case.
If Freddie stopped taking his meds, he sure did not fill me in on this during
the several trips to the Garden Lodge. I do know however in June of 1991
that I gave him some of his meds...but maybe these were not AIDS meds.
I don't remember the names of them at all. All I can think of is current AIDS
meds which certainly were not available to him in the early '90s. He may have
been on some sort of immune boosting med but I don't really know. Back then
the few meds given for this had SO many horrible side effects...perhaps he
wanted a more peaceful journey to that inevitable ending.
.I 'think' that if I had something like aggressive pancreatic cancer, I would
not want all that chemo and radiation to extend my life by a few weeks or
maybe months. Then again, when you are actually faced with death, as
many of my patient's have over the years, A survival instinct will take over
and loved ones will want you to fight...just in case.
According to Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton, it was two weeks before his death and he was taking only painkillers after that.
Thor,I suppose that Freddie's body was exhausted but if he continued to take medication for AIDS, would something change? Would he have lived longer, maybe he had some new medication and therapies?
You worked as a nurse so I ask for your opinion about it.
Thanks.
Thor,I suppose that Freddie's body was exhausted but if he continued to take medication for AIDS, would something change? Would he have lived longer, maybe he had some new medication and therapies?
You worked as a nurse so I ask for your opinion about it.
Thanks.
Thor,
Thank you for the kind words. Greatly appreciated.
Thank you for the kind words. Greatly appreciated.
@Thor.
Actually, the country known as 'Iran' today was originally the centre of the ancient Persian empire, and its ethnic name was Pars (anglicised to Persia). With the Islamic invasion, many of the Parsis or Persians fled in ships to different parts of the world, mainly to the Indian sub-continent - basically to escape conversion to Islam, and save their way of life. The Arab conquerors could not pronounce the letter 'P'. There is no such letter in their alphabet even today. So they change the 'p' sound to a 'b' or an 'f'. Hence, they called the country Fars, and the people Farsi. BUT, the people and language referred to as 'Farsi' today are completely different from the Parsis. The Parsis are less than about 40000 in number today, scattered all over the world (my family was in England and now in Canada), and will soon disappear altogether. We still follow (well, at least in name), the ancient Zoroastrian religion, basically summed up as 'good thoughts, good words, good deeds', and we are a bit (make that very) eccentric and believe in thoroughly enjoying life, as that in itself is considered showing gratitude to God for all His bounty. Honestly, if you knew a few Parsis, you'd realise how Freddie was totally a Parsi, not religion-wise but in everything else! If you are invited to a Parsi wedding, you will see all the oldies (I mean 75 and above) dancing just as energetically as everyone else. Never ask a Parsi to sing - you will not be able to shut him up then.
Okay, enough about Parsis; this is your thread about Freddie.
@ Rainbow 61.
All the Parsis are really proud of 'aapro Freddie' (OUR Freddie). I really don't know where most of these journalists and writers get their stuff. Mainly conjecture, I guess.
Actually, the country known as 'Iran' today was originally the centre of the ancient Persian empire, and its ethnic name was Pars (anglicised to Persia). With the Islamic invasion, many of the Parsis or Persians fled in ships to different parts of the world, mainly to the Indian sub-continent - basically to escape conversion to Islam, and save their way of life. The Arab conquerors could not pronounce the letter 'P'. There is no such letter in their alphabet even today. So they change the 'p' sound to a 'b' or an 'f'. Hence, they called the country Fars, and the people Farsi. BUT, the people and language referred to as 'Farsi' today are completely different from the Parsis. The Parsis are less than about 40000 in number today, scattered all over the world (my family was in England and now in Canada), and will soon disappear altogether. We still follow (well, at least in name), the ancient Zoroastrian religion, basically summed up as 'good thoughts, good words, good deeds', and we are a bit (make that very) eccentric and believe in thoroughly enjoying life, as that in itself is considered showing gratitude to God for all His bounty. Honestly, if you knew a few Parsis, you'd realise how Freddie was totally a Parsi, not religion-wise but in everything else! If you are invited to a Parsi wedding, you will see all the oldies (I mean 75 and above) dancing just as energetically as everyone else. Never ask a Parsi to sing - you will not be able to shut him up then.
Okay, enough about Parsis; this is your thread about Freddie.
@ Rainbow 61.
All the Parsis are really proud of 'aapro Freddie' (OUR Freddie). I really don't know where most of these journalists and writers get their stuff. Mainly conjecture, I guess.
Sorry, QueenZone is just not working properly for me. I have no 'edit', 'reply with quotes' or any other tab except 'reply'.
Thor, what I have enjoyed most about this thread is that not only have you given us precious nuggets of info about Freddie that show the different sides to him, but you have also brought the QZers together in a good way. Thank you!
Thor, what I have enjoyed most about this thread is that not only have you given us precious nuggets of info about Freddie that show the different sides to him, but you have also brought the QZers together in a good way. Thank you!
noorie wrote:
@Thor.
Actually, the country known as 'Iran' today was originally the centre of the ancient Persian empire, and its ethnic name was Pars (anglicised to Persia). With the Islamic invasion, many of the Parsis or Persians fled in ships to different parts of the world, mainly to the Indian sub-continent - basically to escape conversion to Islam, and save their way of life. The Arab conquerors could not pronounce the letter 'P'. There is no such letter in their alphabet even today. So they change the 'p' sound to a 'b' or an 'f'. Hence, they called the country Fars, and the people Farsi. BUT, the people and language referred to as 'Farsi' today are completely different from the Parsis. The Parsis are less than about 40000 in number today, scattered all over the world (my family was in England and now in Canada), and will soon disappear altogether. We still follow (well, at least in name), the ancient Zoroastrian religion, basically summed up as 'good thoughts, good words, good deeds', and we are a bit (make that very) eccentric and believe in thoroughly enjoying life, as that in itself is considered showing gratitude to God for all His bounty. Honestly, if you knew a few Parsis, you'd realise how Freddie was totally a Parsi, not religion-wise but in everything else! If you are invited to a Parsi wedding, you will see all the oldies (I mean 75 and above) dancing just as energetically as everyone else. Never ask a Parsi to sing - you will not be able to shut him up then.
Okay, enough about Parsis; this is your thread about Freddie.
@ Rainbow 61.
All the Parsis are really proud of 'aapro Freddie' (OUR Freddie). I really don't know where most of these journalists and writers get their stuff. Mainly conjecture, I guess.
I've often heard Parsis described as eccentric. What do people mean; what sort of antics do you guys get up to?
Hey noorie,
Thank you...right back at YOU. The answer to my question about Parsi was fantastic. Having grown up
in New York, with so many glorious ethnicities, I have always been fascinated by people's cultural heritage
and how it is celebrated and held dear to them. My experience with Parsi has yet to be explored..and you,
noorie are my start. Actually, my various experience with Farsi-Americans did not leave a very good impression
in the workplace (hospital). Care was mostly micro-managed by the multiple members of the family. Appreciation
was mostly absent but "service" was expected much like a "landowner" over "the help." It often was insisted
that doctors be called in the middle of the night for things like a one degree temperature rise. You can just
imagine how the nurses were greeted by doctors at 3AM for such nonsense. However, since patients are
never wrong, the nurses had to bear the rage of a groggy doctor.
Now, this is only my observation of people with sick loved ones. I would love for somebody here to correct
my impression by describing how Farsi's are outside of this setting. I am so open to that correction. I hope
no offense is taken if I have an aberrant perception...I am waiting to learn what I may have missed or
jumped to conclusions about. Thanks in advance.
Thank you...right back at YOU. The answer to my question about Parsi was fantastic. Having grown up
in New York, with so many glorious ethnicities, I have always been fascinated by people's cultural heritage
and how it is celebrated and held dear to them. My experience with Parsi has yet to be explored..and you,
noorie are my start. Actually, my various experience with Farsi-Americans did not leave a very good impression
in the workplace (hospital). Care was mostly micro-managed by the multiple members of the family. Appreciation
was mostly absent but "service" was expected much like a "landowner" over "the help." It often was insisted
that doctors be called in the middle of the night for things like a one degree temperature rise. You can just
imagine how the nurses were greeted by doctors at 3AM for such nonsense. However, since patients are
never wrong, the nurses had to bear the rage of a groggy doctor.
Now, this is only my observation of people with sick loved ones. I would love for somebody here to correct
my impression by describing how Farsi's are outside of this setting. I am so open to that correction. I hope
no offense is taken if I have an aberrant perception...I am waiting to learn what I may have missed or
jumped to conclusions about. Thanks in advance.
Thor, Farsis are a different ethnicity, culture , and religion, so I am afraid I cannot help you with understanding them. Parsis on the other hand... I have a zillion stories, but I am not going to hi-jack this thread! It is too good a thread for that.
@captainjory..
It is not about what we do, but how we do it, and how we think!!! One crazy story here, and then really this is Thor's thread about Freddie.
It was the early 60s in Mumbai. Queen Elizabeth was due to arrive in Mumbai. (Weirdly, Parsis are very into British royalty, don't know why, and you will often see King Somebody and Queen Somebody interspersed with family portraits!! Too funny!) My gran was a young woman then, and knew this old Parsi lady. The lady prepared an entire English tea on an antique table with beautiful China, and placed it on the pavement right next to where the Queen's car was supposed to pass!! She was going to invite Queen Elizabeth to have a cup of tea with her!!! (Also back then there were not too many security issues, so nobody hauled her and her table away.) The eccentric thing is not just this; it is that a lot of other Parsis thought it was a very good idea, and asked if they could contribute to the eats, and join in!!!! Eccentric enough for you?
Okay, I'm done.
@captainjory..
It is not about what we do, but how we do it, and how we think!!! One crazy story here, and then really this is Thor's thread about Freddie.
It was the early 60s in Mumbai. Queen Elizabeth was due to arrive in Mumbai. (Weirdly, Parsis are very into British royalty, don't know why, and you will often see King Somebody and Queen Somebody interspersed with family portraits!! Too funny!) My gran was a young woman then, and knew this old Parsi lady. The lady prepared an entire English tea on an antique table with beautiful China, and placed it on the pavement right next to where the Queen's car was supposed to pass!! She was going to invite Queen Elizabeth to have a cup of tea with her!!! (Also back then there were not too many security issues, so nobody hauled her and her table away.) The eccentric thing is not just this; it is that a lot of other Parsis thought it was a very good idea, and asked if they could contribute to the eats, and join in!!!! Eccentric enough for you?
Okay, I'm done.
Don't get me wrong. In spite of (or maybe because of) all the craziness, I am very happy to be a Parsi. and just love all my dear lunatics.
PS: A lot of Parsis will address others (of any sex) as 'darling' and 'dear'. Something Freddie is always supposed to have done. It is not a gay or straight thing. It is a Parsi thing.
PS: A lot of Parsis will address others (of any sex) as 'darling' and 'dear'. Something Freddie is always supposed to have done. It is not a gay or straight thing. It is a Parsi thing.
noorie,
That story is hilarious and I urge you to throw us a gem whenever you feel like. I'm sure
that many of the QZers will get a well deserved chuckle over your story. I know PrimeJiveUSA
will. He has made it known that he loves to laugh on this thread and so do I.
So, no more apologies please. Your stories and point of view is very much valued here.
Please keep them coming. Once again, this is everyone's thread, not just mine.
That story is hilarious and I urge you to throw us a gem whenever you feel like. I'm sure
that many of the QZers will get a well deserved chuckle over your story. I know PrimeJiveUSA
will. He has made it known that he loves to laugh on this thread and so do I.
So, no more apologies please. Your stories and point of view is very much valued here.
Please keep them coming. Once again, this is everyone's thread, not just mine.
noorie wrote:
Thor, Farsis are a different ethnicity, culture , and religion, so I am afraid I cannot help you with understanding them. Parsis on the other hand... I have a zillion stories, but I am not going to hi-jack this thread! It is too good a thread for that.
@captainjory..
It is not about what we do, but how we do it, and how we think!!! One crazy story here, and then really this is Thor's thread about Freddie.
It was the early 60s in Mumbai. Queen Elizabeth was due to arrive in Mumbai. (Weirdly, Parsis are very into British royalty, don't know why, and you will often see King Somebody and Queen Somebody interspersed with family portraits!! Too funny!) My gran was a young woman then, and knew this old Parsi lady. The lady prepared an entire English tea on an antique table with beautiful China, and placed it on the pavement right next to where the Queen's car was supposed to pass!! She was going to invite Queen Elizabeth to have a cup of tea with her!!! (Also back then there were not too many security issues, so nobody hauled her and her table away.) The eccentric thing is not just this; it is that a lot of other Parsis thought it was a very good idea, and asked if they could contribute to the eats, and join in!!!! Eccentric enough for you?
Okay, I'm done.
Haha that was a great story! I get the impression from Phoebe that Freddie was really into royalty too, and got teary when Charlies and Diana got married. Which is kind of odd. Us British people have mixed and strong feelings about the royal family. I just assumed Freddie was a fan due to being foreign!
That's interesting about the "darlings" and "dears" thing. Though that definitely is a stereotypically gay thing to do!
You are too kind, really! But we are all here for Freddie.
AND...the loyal FANS of FREDDIE. I mean, who knew that it is common to address even males as
dears and darlings. I do now..and that makes me very happy. Since Freddie did not offer information
about his culture ... this little insight is so informative and endearing.
dears and darlings. I do now..and that makes me very happy. Since Freddie did not offer information
about his culture ... this little insight is so informative and endearing.