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Backing tracks were usually recorded live as a trio in those days. It made far more sense for John to be on bass rather than piano. 'Best Friend' was an exception but not by any means the rule.
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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There has been mention of Roger’s “home” studio versions both above, and on the official blurb; as he hadn’t moved into The Mill at the point of NOTW being recorded (he hadn’t even finally moved in by the time of the WWRY & SYW promo videos being recorded in the grounds), does anyone know if he DID actually have a home studio wherever he was living before (and if so where that was), or is it or is it more likely that his demos were actually recorded in ‘proper’ studios either off his own back or in Queen downtime?
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[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]

Backing tracks were usually recorded live as a trio in those days. It made far more sense for John to be on bass rather than piano. 'Best Friend' was an exception but not by any means the rule.[/QUOTE]

if it had been played by Freddie what the sense showing in the video that is played by John?
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I didn't know that John played the Spanish style guitar on Who Needs You...
"He knew exactly what was going on. He knew that was his last performance, he could barely stand." Roger Taylor commenting on Freddie's last video appearance.
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"This BBC version of Spread Your Wings is superior to the album version"

This is why I take this site, which some people see as the Queen bible, with a pinch of salt.

This is purely opinion. It should concentrate on fact.
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[QUOTE] [b]IanR wrote:[/b]

Not gonna lie: a tad pissed-off that Roger's demo vocals for SHA won't be on the set. Would've made sense in light of Fred's version of AD,AD. [/QUOTE]

That! ^
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[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]

There has been mention of Roger’s “home” studio versions both above, and on the official blurb; as he hadn’t moved into The Mill at the point of NOTW being recorded (he hadn’t even finally moved in by the time of the WWRY & SYW promo videos being recorded in the grounds), does anyone know if he DID actually have a home studio wherever he was living before (and if so where that was), or is it or is it more likely that his demos were actually recorded in ‘proper’ studios either off his own back or in Queen downtime?[/QUOTE]

GB said at convention that Rog laid down his demo vocals for FFTI at home, though the quality of the vocals isn't great which makes me wonder if Roger did it on a mono cassette deck like us older people used to have in the day and they've dubbed it onto an instrumental version of the released take and lowered the volume of the demo to try and blend it all together.

When we finally hear it at home in perfect quality, I may be proved wrong about that: it's very hard to hear clarity and detail at Convention.
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[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]

There has been mention of Roger’s “home” studio ... does anyone know if he DID actually have a home studio wherever he was living before (and if so where that was), or is it or is it more likely that his demos were actually recorded in ‘proper’ studios either off his own back or in Queen downtime?[/QUOTE]

Roger was living in Barnes back then. No, he didn't have a bona fide 'home studio' until 1993 (when he commissioned the famous Cosford Mill one to be built). It's most likely just a 'home demo' (a demo recorded at home with a stereo tape recorder) and somebody mistook 'home demo' for 'demo at a home studio' and then the telephone remained broken.

[QUOTE] [b]bootLuca wrote:[/b]

if it had been played by Freddie what the sense showing in the video that is played by John?[/QUOTE]

Frederick was pissed when they were shooting that video. What people mime on videos often differs from what they did in the studio, including:

- Brian playing the 'Back Chat' arpeggios.
- Brian playing the 'Crazy Little Thing' intro.
- Rog singing BV's on 'Dust'.
- John singing BV's on loads of things.
- Brian playing acoustic on 'A Kind of Magic'.
- John playing banjo on 'A Kind of Magic'.
- Brian playing a skull on 'It's a Hard Life'.

[QUOTE] [b]RafaelS wrote:[/b]

I didn't know that John played the Spanish style guitar on Who Needs You...[/QUOTE]

It's been on the album liner notes since 1977. There's no bass on that song so (rhythm) guitar was all John played on it. The lead bits were by Brian.

[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]

This is why I take this site, which some people see as the Queen bible, with a pinch of salt.[/QUOTE]

The Bible itself should be taken with a pinch of salt. It's full of lies.

[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]

This is purely opinion. It should concentrate on fact. [/QUOTE]

Whether it should concentrate on fact or not is an opinion, which contradicts your statement.
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]

What people mime on videos often differs from what they did in the studio, including:

- Brian playing a skull on 'It's a Hard Life'.
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Wait a minute... are you saying that Brian can't make a skull sound like the Red Special? You're about to make some powerful enemies here, sir.
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I do write my opinions on my site from time to time. It’s an outlet for me. I am fine if people don’t agree with them; in fact I like it when I hear contrary opinions. That’s the purpose of forums like this one. Since it is my website and I pay for the hosting and the name, I write what I want; not everything will be objective. I try to be factual and I’m sure there are errors, but I constantly work at it for everyone’s benefit.
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[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]

There has been mention of Roger’s “home” studio ... does anyone know if he DID actually have a home studio wherever he was living before (and if so where that was), or is it or is it more likely that his demos were actually recorded in ‘proper’ studios either off his own back or in Queen downtime?[/QUOTE]

Roger was living in Barnes back then. No, he didn't have a bona fide 'home studio' until 1993 (when he commissioned the famous Cosford Mill one to be built). It's most likely just a 'home demo' (a demo recorded at home with a stereo tape recorder) and somebody mistook 'home demo' for 'demo at a home studio' and then the telephone remained broken.

[QUOTE] [b]bootLuca wrote:[/b]

if it had been played by Freddie what the sense showing in the video that is played by John?[/QUOTE]

Frederick was pissed when they were shooting that video. What people mime on videos often differs from what they did in the studio, including:

- Brian playing the 'Back Chat' arpeggios.
- Brian playing the 'Crazy Little Thing' intro.
- Rog singing BV's on 'Dust'.
- John singing BV's on loads of things.
- Brian playing acoustic on 'A Kind of Magic'.
- John playing banjo on 'A Kind of Magic'.
- Brian playing a skull on 'It's a Hard Life'.

[QUOTE] [b]RafaelS wrote:[/b]

I didn't know that John played the Spanish style guitar on Who Needs You...[/QUOTE]

It's been on the album liner notes since 1977. There's no bass on that song so (rhythm) guitar was all John played on it. The lead bits were by Brian.

[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]

This is why I take this site, which some people see as the Queen bible, with a pinch of salt.[/QUOTE]

The Bible itself should be taken with a pinch of salt. It's full of lies.

[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/QUOTE]

And the Bible should only be eaten one page at a time
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[QUOTE] [b]Adam Unger (QueenVault.com) wrote:[/b]

Since it is my website and I pay for the hosting and the name, I write what I want[/QUOTE]

And you're doing a great job. So, an imbecile is moaning that you had the nerve to include your opinion, that doesn't matter. Keep up the great work.
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]

"This BBC version of Spread Your Wings is superior to the album version"

This is why I take this site, which some people see as the Queen bible, with a pinch of salt.

This is purely opinion. It should concentrate on fact. [/QUOTE]

It is clearly identifiable as an opinion, which you are free to disregard. If your response to encountering such opinions is to launch into the above example of pathetic whining, you are in need of either the services of a mental health professional or a good beating. Or both.

Seriously, you are such a pathetic whining asshole, go fucking deal with your obvious issues and stop using this forum as a place to vent your debilitating character flaws.
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[QUOTE] [b]sebastian wrote:[/b]

Frederick was pissed when they were shooting that video. What people mime on videos often differs from what they did in the studio, including:

- Brian playing the 'Back Chat' arpeggios.
- Brian playing the 'Crazy Little Thing' intro.
- Rog singing BV's on 'Dust'.
- John singing BV's on loads of things.
- Brian playing acoustic on 'A Kind of Magic'.
- John playing banjo on 'A Kind of Magic'.
- Brian playing a skull on 'It's a Hard Life'.[/QUOTE]

there's no sense, if the piano on the album version was played by Freddie, he would have played (mimed) in the video
The style of the piano is different from Freddie's typical style. There is a big difference in the arrangement of the piano between the BBC version, where Freddie is playing and the album version where I am convinced it is played by John.