SweetCaroline, it’s obvious for a lot of Queenzone-members that you’re an ‘Adam-fangirl’. To me, that’s fine but when you’re saying that Freddie overshadowed the other 3 members on stage , it’s obvious you don’t know shit about Queen duting Freddies days.
Idols starlet Adam isn’t even allowed to lick Freddies boots. Can he sing as good as Freddie? No, he cant. Can he play the piano like Freddie? Nope. Did he write as many great songs, albums and hits as Freddie did? Uhm.. nope. Can he entertain like Freddie could?....hahaha no not even close.
Cheers, from a Freddie fanboy :-) ;-)
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I never saw a live show with Freddie but from the videos I’ve seen my impression is that HE was the whole show and completely overshadowed the other 3 band members. And quite the opposite, Adam constantly fades into the background when Brian is playing a solo. So I have the opinion that Adam shows great respect to the others and does NOT hog the spotlight. He is flamboyant but his outfits are tasteful and actually modest compared to all of the skin Freddie liked to show.
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OK. Maybe you should start and watch some complete concerts on YT?
You could start here:
http://youtu.be/dSwIe_ABbuk
From the outtakes from the last concerts or for instance Live Aid it might look like Freddie completely overshadowed the others. But when you see a complete concert, you can see that Brian usually got the frontplace for his soli. And he always had his guitar solo of about 10 minutes. Yes, Rog sat mostly behind his kit. But that’s what drummers tend to do. ;-) For some unplugged parts he sometimes came to the front though.
And John never searched the attention.
If you look at their concerts from the 70s, you will see, that Freddie often sits at the piano. There is no movement on stage, but Brian and John playing their instruments.
Adam on the other hand might have taken Freddie’s place as the frontman. But he is still a guest. He’s singing Queen’s songs. Brian and Roger hired him to do so. So is it really a wonder, that he gives them more room on stage? He’s respectful, yes. As a guest should be.
I know, AL is a nice guy and respects his own bandmembers in the same way by the way. Freddie’s ego might have been a bit bigger. But he was far from an asshole.
As for outfits costumes: This is up to everybody’s taste. The costumes in the 70s and 80s were definitely different from today.
Freddie and Adam are/were different people. They do things differently, have different tastes and wear different outfits.
Or do you want a copy-cat? I don‘t.
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
I never saw a live show with Freddie but from the videos I’ve seen my impression is that HE was the whole show and completely overshadowed the other 3 band members. And quite the opposite, Adam constantly fades into the background when Brian is playing a solo. So I have the opinion that Adam shows great respect to the others and does NOT hog the spotlight. He is flamboyant but his outfits are tasteful and actually modest compared to all of the skin Freddie liked to show.
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Going by this, I doubt you have watched very much about Freddie and Queen from back in the day. Hate to tell you, you have proved 100s of times now that you aren't a Queen or Freddie fan.
All you do when you post about Freddie is usually to compare him with AL. You are doing it here. And you said you never have or never will compare them which is bull crap.
Oh yes, AL who has breathed new life for Queen, who is tasteful, respectable, modest...you say all the time while clutching your granny pearls about what you think Freddie did.
I'm sure if AL wore something that wasn't modest, you would fan girl about that. I know you are a hypocrite when it comes to AL, he can do it all according to you while you even throw shade at Freddie. On a Queen board or two every chance you get.
I think it's a shame you can't be bothered to get facts straight about Freddie and Queen. Man, the things you are so oblivious to the history of Freddie and Queen. Yet, you come here posting everything you can find about AL and non stop promoting the guy...as you are trying to do even in your post I'm quoting here. Are you able to post without promoting and bigging AL up?
You aren't fooling anyone when you claim you are a Freddie or Queen fan.
I’m not throwing shade at Freddie. I have watched whole Queen concerts from Wembley in 1986 and Hungary, etc. My observation is that Freddie was the energizer bunny who never stopped moving when he was away from the piano, constantly running up and down ramps or sashaying across the stage. And that is fine, but don’t say that Adam hogs the spotlight when he does not. There are periods in the QAL show when he is not on the stage at all.
If you haven’t been to a live QAL show or watched a full concert video, you cannot know what really takes place.
I love Freddie and totally recognize his amazing talents and persona but it is not necessary to demean Adam or wish he was as boring as Paul Rodgers. They are all unique and should be appreciated as such.
Go to the moviei, Icy, and tell us what you think. I thought you were going this weekend.
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
I’m not throwing shade at Freddie. I have watched whole Queen concerts from Wembley in 1986 and Hungary, etc. My observation is that Freddie was the energizer bunny who never stopped moving when he was away from the piano, constantly running up and down ramps or sashaying across the stage. And that is fine, but don’t say that Adam hogs the spotlight when he does not. There are periods in the QAL show when he is not on the stage at all.
If you haven’t been to a live QAL show or watched a full concert video, you cannot know what really takes place.
I love Freddie and totally recognize his amazing talents and persona but it is not necessary to demean Adam or wish he was as boring as Paul Rodgers. They are all unique and should be appreciated as such.
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What’s you point?
Of course Adam grabs the spotlight for a whole bunch of a gig. He’s the frontman. So he should do it. It would even be wrong, if he didn‘t.
Yes, Brian and Roger have their own solo spots in the set. Much more than with Fred. And AL honors them.
Because they are Queen. Adam is not. He’s a guest. They call him family, yes. But the Queen fans want to see Brian and Roger up and in the front as well.
Back in the day it was different. You can’t compare Queen and Queen + Adam Lambert. As the name already tells: it’s not the same.
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
I’m not throwing shade at Freddie. I have watched whole Queen concerts from Wembley in 1986 and Hungary, etc. My observation is that Freddie was the energizer bunny who never stopped moving when he was away from the piano, constantly running up and down ramps or sashaying across the stage. And that is fine, but don’t say that Adam hogs the spotlight when he does not. There are periods in the QAL show when he is not on the stage at all.
If you haven’t been to a live QAL show or watched a full concert video, you cannot know what really takes place.
I love Freddie and totally recognize his amazing talents and persona but it is not necessary to demean Adam or wish he was as boring as Paul Rodgers. They are all unique and should be appreciated as such.
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Oh yes you do throw shade at Freddie. Whatever did you mean when you posted that Freddie must have had sex with every gay man on the planet. The way you try to make it seem as if he was onstage completely naked nor something. Yep, you sure love and respect Freddie, right...*sarcasm*. You might fool yourself, but no one else.
The only damn time you post about Freddie is to compare him with AL. You wouldn't be posting about the biopic if AL wasn't included, in fact you try to make the biopic all about AL too.
You will never get a full picture of Freddie and Queen live just by watching a couple concerts from 1986. Try watching the concerts from before that...you might learn a thing or two. I doubt you would go back to learn more, or even to watch and listen. Thees so much more to Freddie, Queen and the tours than just a couple of concerts from 1986.
I've never said AL hogs the spotlight. I do think the crown and cape is crass, even Freddie only used it for one tour. AL is clinging on to that coronet for years now as if it is what he came up with before Freddie ever did it. AL isn't as original as you like yourself and others to believe.
The crap about going to shows again...as if you are any way impartial about the shows. I think you are on Queen boards to promote and sell tickets for AL and Q+AL and that you must want a cut of the profits or something. You have no qualms about calling Paul Rodgers boring, but if someone dared to post that about AL, you'd be oh no he's not, and you'd posting video after video and link after linkt o try to "prove" that AL isn't boring, that he's spectacular, the best, etc.
Believe me, I know Freddie is altogether different and more unique than AL, you don't have to tell me that or anyone else. One is a legend, one isn't. One was an original artist, one isn't. One of them wouldn't be where he is now without Freddie and Queen, those are the facts. Tell yourself that that the next time you want to promote, spam and big up your AL up on Queen boards.
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[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
I’m not throwing shade at Freddie. I have watched whole Queen concerts from Wembley in 1986 and Hungary, etc. My observation is that Freddie was the energizer bunny who never stopped moving when he was away from the piano, constantly running up and down ramps or sashaying across the stage. And that is fine, but don’t say that Adam hogs the spotlight when he does not. There are periods in the QAL show when he is not on the stage at all.
If you haven’t been to a live QAL show or watched a full concert video, you cannot know what really takes place.
I love Freddie and totally recognize his amazing talents and persona but it is not necessary to demean Adam or wish he was as boring as Paul Rodgers. They are all unique and should be appreciated as such.
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What’s you point?
Of course Adam grabs the spotlight for a whole bunch of a gig. He’s the frontman. So he should do it. It would even be wrong, if he didn‘t.
Yes, Brian and Roger have their own solo spots in the set. Much more than with Fred. And AL honors them.
Because they are Queen. Adam is not. He’s a guest. They call him family, yes. But the Queen fans want to see Brian and Roger up and in the front as well.
Back in the day it was different. You can’t compare Queen and Queen + Adam Lambert. As the name already tells: it’s not the same.
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Can I say... thanks for this.
Sweetcaroline, so you tell us we should see some Adam concerts, when you yourself have only seen concerts of Queen with Freddie from The Magic Tour ?!?
Girl, you still got some serious work to do if you have a big mouth about Queen with Freddie and want other people to take you serious on a Queen forum. Go watch Queen concerts from the 70’s (start with 74 Rainbow, 75 Odeon, 76 Hyde Parc, 79 London& Paris) and early 80’s (81 Montreal, 82 Milton Keynes, 85 Rio de Janeiro). Listen to studio albums and bootlegs from these era’s and then come back and throw your opinions on the forum.
You’ll see that people will take you far more serious, whatever your opinions are then.
[QUOTE] [b]bas wrote:[/b]
Sweetcaroline, so you tell us we should see some Adam concerts, when you yourself have only seen concerts of Queen with Freddie from The Magic Tour ?!?
Girl, you still got some serious work to do if you have a big mouth about Queen with Freddie and want other people to take you serious on a Queen forum. Go watch Queen concerts from the 70’s (start with 74 Rainbow, 75 Odeon, 76 Hyde Parc, 79 London& Paris) and early 80’s (81 Montreal, 82 Milton Keynes, 85 Rio de Janeiro). Listen to studio albums and bootlegs from these era’s and then come back and throw your opinions on the forum.
You’ll see that people will take you far more serious, whatever your opinions are then.[/QUOTE]
This 100%.
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Go to the moviei, Icy, and tell us what you think. I thought you were going this weekend.
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I don't have to 'go' anywhere on your say so.
Icy, stop making yourself into a Freddie expert when you didn’t even know who he was until after he died, I was watching Live Aid and Bo Rhap and other music videos on MTV long before that when he was still alive.
Just got back from a local community little theatre production of “The Addams Family’ where my daughter used to perform. Very cute musical based on the old TV show.
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Icy, stop making yourself into a Freddie expert when you didn’t even know who he was until after he died, I was watching Live Aid and Bo Rhap and other music videos on MTV long before that when he was still alive.[/QUOTE]
I've never claimed to be a Freddie expert. But I do know more about the guy than you do. You didn't neven onow about Track 13. The only way you can discuss Freddie is to compare him with AL.
I never became a fan until after he passed away. I have admitted to that before, what is your issue with that? You watched two Queen concerts from the same year and you call yourself a fan of Freddie's and Queen's...really what a joke you are sometimes.
Wow you watched Live Aid and Bohemian Rhapsody too...wow such big fan you are after all *sarcasm*. You are a Queen fan and a Freddie fan...like I'm a Glambert totally in love with AL...
Yeah I don't think so. Just be honest and stop trying to fool people here.
