Pro-shot footage of Liar from some 1974-75 show

[QUOTE] [b]Chinwonder2 wrote:[/b] The camera angle I think looks very similar to this footage, which is from the 2nd night at the Rainbow: Thoughts? -Chin[/QUOTE] that's exactly the video that made me think it would be from the Rainbow. :)

Wow - what a great find !

It's definitely from the Rainbow. It matches that "uncut" audio (the 3 song version - SAD, SCC, Liar) as well as the recent official release.

What's interesting is this reveals that there's a vocal overdub at 3:59 on the official release (or it just switches to the other night at that point).

Good job, Pittrek, catching the blurred out TV logo.

Now where did this come from, and is there more !?

[QUOTE] [b]Val Lurex wrote:[/b]

Also worth paying attention to is the camerawork, which is much worse here than that at the Rainbow.[/QUOTE]

Well, it definitely is Rainbow. But this is still pretty normal for concert camerawork. It's expected that a final edit will switch from one angle to another. If these guys are following band members without a tripod, you can expect that it'll be shaky now and again.

[QUOTE] [b]Chief Mouse wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Nitroboy wrote:[/b]

Whatever it is, it looks like it was shot on film.[/QUOTE]

Yes, indeed![/QUOTE]

Or at least, later transferred to film and stored there.

Now that we know it's Rainbow, and that we know it was shot on 2" tape and later stored onto film (that is, only the parts that were planned to be shown in the cinema), we can assume that this scene was chopped from the footage later in the editing process.

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

Wow - what a great find !

It's definitely from the Rainbow. It matches that "uncut" audio (the 3 song version - SAD, SCC, Liar) as well as the recent official release.

What's interesting is this reveals that there's a vocal overdub at 3:59 on the official release (or it just switches to the other night at that point).

Good job, Pittrek, catching the blurred out TV logo.

Now where did this come from, and is there more !?
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Damn, I was going to compare it to those three songs from the soundboard but never got around to it.

Does it match the official release? I watched closely as he moved, but was able to spot only differences in his movements and the different colours that shone on the stage; however, different angles might have got me confused.

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Val Lurex wrote:[/b]

Also worth paying attention to is the camerawork, which is much worse here than that at the Rainbow.[/QUOTE]

Well, it definitely is Rainbow. But this is still pretty normal for concert camerawork. It's expected that a final edit will switch from one angle to another. If these guys are following band members without a tripod, you can expect that it'll be shaky now and again.
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Still looks rather shaky. Rainbow seems to be more stable camerawork wise. I haven't seen it in a long time, but as far as those angles are concerned, they seemed to be operating quite more professionally than the ones present here - these two particular angles. Anyway, I'm inclined to kind of believe you now that you've come up with that evidence.

I think we can definitely say that this new footage is uncut footage from the first night? This comparison video using the 2014 release shows that none of the angles are present, which leads me to believe that the official release is the 2nd night! (I think!) -Chin

I've just compared it to the three-song soundboard recording, and indeed, it seems to match this recording but not entirely. The video I posted has Brian playing slightly different chords towards the end, or more precisely, when Freddie sings "In the right way" for the second time.

However, it doesn't explain why both the official release and the old soundboard recording have this "edit" which comes after the second "In the right way", i.e. Freddie singing "Right, right a-way" (is that the overdub you referred to, Bob?) - Freddie doesn't sing these words in the video I posted.
If it's an overdub, then how come it's present on the soundboard recording which in its turn is raw and unedited?

[QUOTE] [b]Chinwonder2 wrote:[/b] I think we can definitely say that this new footage is uncut footage from the first night? This comparison video using the 2014 release shows that none of the angles are present, which leads me to believe that the official release is the 2nd night! (I think!) -Chin[/QUOTE] Can't be. There was a power outage during this song on the second night. Unless the official release has a mix of both versions of Liar, but not the version from the second show in its entirety.

http://queenlive.ca/queen/misc/Rainbow_comparison_Tom_Christie.pdf

I think it was already known that Liar from the 2014 official release was from the first night with bits from the second one. Moreover, there's this story of power outage.

^ It's worth noting that Tom Christie's analysis indicates that the portion of the song on the official release starting with the words "Father please forgive me" through "Right, right a-way" is taken from the second night whereas the soundboard recording comes from the first one at this point - which brings us to the conclusion that he did sing "Right, right a-way" on both nights.

He doesn't sing this line in the new video at all.

[QUOTE] [b]Val Lurex wrote:[/b]

If it's an overdub, then how come it's present on the soundboard recording which in its turn is raw and unedited?[/QUOTE]

I wrote "uncut" in quotation marks because it even has overdubs. It's likely a working version of the audio for one of the films, before the songs were chopped up for the fake medley.

So even those 3 tracks are comps of both nights, and have studio overdubs on the backing vocals, at least.

the March show wasn't filmed?

[QUOTE] [b]Queenman!! wrote:[/b]

the March show wasn't filmed?[/QUOTE]

That one definitely looks like film.

Well, the dude replied to me. He mentions that it was shown on German TV (ZDF?), here’s his comment: -Chin