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Pro-shot footage of Liar from some 1974-75 show

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[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Chief Mouse wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Nitroboy wrote:[/b]

Whatever it is, it looks like it was shot on film.[/QUOTE]

Yes, indeed![/QUOTE]

Or at least, later transferred to film and stored there.

Now that we know it's Rainbow, and that we know it was shot on 2" tape and later stored onto film (that is, only the parts that were planned to be shown in the cinema), we can assume that this scene was chopped from the footage later in the editing process.
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I disagree. This looks like original film footage. Not video -> film.
I also don't think this is from any of the Rainbow nights. Certainly not the March show.
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There's no huge Queen letters behind the drums, so I don't think it's Rainbow. Also they had different stage clothes and Roger only had one tom tom during the March Rainbow show.
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I'm not too proud to admit it took me 30 years to notice the lettering
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[QUOTE] [b]Nitroboy wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Chief Mouse wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Nitroboy wrote:[/b]

Whatever it is, it looks like it was shot on film.[/QUOTE]

Yes, indeed![/QUOTE]

Or at least, later transferred to film and stored there.

Now that we know it's Rainbow, and that we know it was shot on 2" tape and later stored onto film (that is, only the parts that were planned to be shown in the cinema), we can assume that this scene was chopped from the footage later in the editing process.
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I disagree. This looks like original film footage. Not video -> film.
I also don't think this is from any of the Rainbow nights. Certainly not the March show.[/QUOTE]

well, this is definitely not from the march show, most likely from the first november show. The audio match the soundboard, the clothes are the same, the film looks like the snippet we have of the power outage...
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[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]

There's no huge Queen letters behind the drums, so I don't think it's Rainbow.[/QUOTE]

Concerts were often darkly lit in the 70s. The Queen letters aren't even visible in most of the photos from the shows.

This footage is from the Rainbow shows. There is no debate.
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Don't forget folks that this footage was shown in public at that exhibition in London many years ago now. I'm a little sceptical that this is just someone recording from the screen with a hand held camera.
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Stormtroopers exhibition...
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A few rambling observations:

- To my eyes this looks like footage shot originally on film and NOT a transfer of 2" videotape footage to film, which would look very different. Therefore this would have needed a second camera crew.

- Even if this was a segment of the videotape of the first night shown at the Stormtroopers in Stilettos exhibition, that footage was only viewable with a large written watermark in the top corner, and a camera copy would not look anywhere near as clear as this. There is a video available of Flick of the Wrist, recorded at the exhibition, so you can see for yourself how the quality compares.

- I have a long-held suspicion that the Queen lettering was only there during the first night.

- John doesn't move to the microphone to sing "Liar!" as he does in the 2014 release footage, which may suggest a performance sometime after/before the Rainbow shows (or not!).

- Freddie's make-up looks less heavy than in the 2014 release footage, though that may just be due to the film vs. video footage.
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[QUOTE] [b]musicland munich wrote:[/b]

The source ( not necessarily place of the gig ) could be german TV. The guy ( most likely german or austrian) also added a "Szene75" Video on the same day in same length from a different act. [/QUOTE]

Jesus, I am wasting my talents here :)

No, just joking ;) As I don`t have an active YT account - can someone request the original length of that video. he also answered that question on that other video i have mentioned in my post above.
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OK if Bob says it matches the "uncut" Rainbow audio, we can be sure that it's that, whatever the correct date is.
However I don't believe that the footage comes from the same people who filmed material for the later official release(s). I still think this is shot on film and with hand-held cameras - the footage shot for the official release(s) was shot on video, and with fixed cameras.
And it is definitely NOT filmed off a screen at the exhibition
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GinjaNinja made a good point about the lettering. I just flicked thru the Rainbow 1974 November gig and there certainly is many bits of footage when the lettering just isn't there, whatever the lightning is. Maybe they thought it didn't look too good and took it down for the 2nd Rainbow gig.
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This reminds me of Wembley, the crew of Gavin Taylor, the crew of DoRo and a bunch of angles
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[QUOTE] [b]Bullub wrote:[/b]

This reminds me of Wembley, the crew of Gavin Taylor, the crew of DoRo and a bunch of angles[/QUOTE]

I think Wembley 86 has pretty much been ruled out. It's been narrowed down to the seventies, very possibly Rainbow 74.
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[QUOTE] [b]Dr Magus wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Bullub wrote:[/b]

This reminds me of Wembley, the crew of Gavin Taylor, the crew of DoRo and a bunch of angles[/QUOTE]

I think Wembley 86 has pretty much been ruled out. It's been narrowed down to the seventies, very possibly Rainbow 74.

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Ha !

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