Pro-shot footage of Liar from some 1974-75 show

pittrek wrote:

OK if Bob says it matches the "uncut" Rainbow audio, we can be sure that it's that, whatever the correct date is.
However I don't believe that the footage comes from the same people who filmed material for the later official release(s). I still think this is shot on film and with hand-held cameras - the footage shot for the official release(s) was shot on video, and with fixed cameras.
And it is definitely NOT filmed off a screen at the exhibition

The angle below the stage is identical to the one on the official release but nowhere near as professionally operated. On all of the known footage from Rainbow there are no extra cameras visible in those areas, apart from the crew who were shooting the concert in the first place. Bearing all of that in mind, this camera would have had to have been placed somewhere behind the main one, that is, in the audience, but then again, no extra cameras are visible there.

Wherever it's from, it's some of the best film footage of 70s Queen in existence! :)

Val Lurex wrote:

pittrek wrote:

OK if Bob says it matches the "uncut" Rainbow audio, we can be sure that it's that, whatever the correct date is.
However I don't believe that the footage comes from the same people who filmed material for the later official release(s). I still think this is shot on film and with hand-held cameras - the footage shot for the official release(s) was shot on video, and with fixed cameras.
And it is definitely NOT filmed off a screen at the exhibition

The angle below the stage is identical to the one on the official release

Really? Identical? Can I ask WHERE did you see the same angle in the officially released video(s)? I have seen slightly similar angles, and very similar angles, but I don't remember seeing identical angles. I am mainly talking about the footage taken from the audience.

Bearing all of that in mind, this camera would have had to have been placed somewhere behind the main one, that is, in the audience,

Well you can clearly see heads of 1 or 2 audience members from cca 0:08 to 0:15 before the camera zooms in to show the band

but then again, no extra cameras are visible there.

When? Do we have footage of this particular night from Liar which would show that area?

I always wondered if the sign on the stage at Wembley says 'QUOS' as in a box of cables belonging to Status Quo, or 'DUDS' as in a box of blown bulbs.

pittrek wrote:

Val Lurex wrote:

pittrek wrote:

OK if Bob says it matches the "uncut" Rainbow audio, we can be sure that it's that, whatever the correct date is.
However I don't believe that the footage comes from the same people who filmed material for the later official release(s). I still think this is shot on film and with hand-held cameras - the footage shot for the official release(s) was shot on video, and with fixed cameras.
And it is definitely NOT filmed off a screen at the exhibition

The angle below the stage is identical to the one on the official release

Really? Identical? Can I ask WHERE did you see the same angle in the officially released video(s)? I have seen slightly similar angles, and very similar angles, but I don't remember seeing identical angles. I am mainly talking about the footage taken from the audience.

Bearing all of that in mind, this camera would have had to have been placed somewhere behind the main one, that is, in the audience,

Well you can clearly see heads of 1 or 2 audience members from cca 0:08 to 0:15 before the camera zooms in to show the band

but then again, no extra cameras are visible there.

When? Do we have footage of this particular night from Liar which would show that area?

Yes, identical, but not completely the same - that's what I meant.

I base my judgements on what I see. There is enough footage from both nights to go round and none of it has any signs of additional cameras in that particular area. Of course, the darkness may have well concealed the camera, but however shaky it is, it looks to me like it was shot on a TV camera using film, not a Super 8 hand-held one, otherwise the footage would be much more inferior. Not to mention that the audio is soundboard-sourced and the main camera from below the stage, which would have to be somewhere over there, doesn't get in the way of shooting.

Not that I'm questioning the fact that it's Rainbow, but things here happen to be rather strange.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Dr Magus wrote:

Bullub wrote:

This reminds me of Wembley, the crew of Gavin Taylor, the crew of DoRo and a bunch of angles

I think Wembley 86 has pretty much been ruled out. It's been narrowed down to the seventies, very possibly Rainbow 74.

Ha !

Today's captain obvious award goes to...

... but Liar was played at Wembley 86 ... and it was an abbreviated version ... like there was some sort of power outage. ;p

Val Lurex wrote:

pittrek wrote:

Val Lurex wrote:


The angle below the stage is identical to the one on the official release

Really? Identical? Can I ask WHERE did you see the same angle in the officially released video(s)? I have seen slightly similar angles, and very similar angles, but I don't remember seeing identical angles. I am mainly talking about the footage taken from the audience.

Bearing all of that in mind, this camera would have had to have been placed somewhere behind the main one, that is, in the audience,

Well you can clearly see heads of 1 or 2 audience members from cca 0:08 to 0:15 before the camera zooms in to show the band

but then again, no extra cameras are visible there.

When? Do we have footage of this particular night from Liar which would show that area?

Yes, identical, but not completely the same - that's what I meant.

Well identical means completely the same, doesn't it ? :-)

I base my judgements on what I see.

#metoo

There is enough footage from both nights to go round

There was a very specific reason why I asked if we have enough footage from Liar from that specific night - in the case that this would indeed be a TV report, it was normal for a TV crew to get permission for filming one or 2 songs and then f* off.

The strange thing to me is that it was aired once on German TV and anywhere else. I would love to know the background history of this footage, is the youtuber communicating with anybody?

The Real Wizard wrote:

Dr Magus wrote:

Bullub wrote:

This reminds me of Wembley, the crew of Gavin Taylor, the crew of DoRo and a bunch of angles

I think Wembley 86 has pretty much been ruled out. It's been narrowed down to the seventies, very possibly Rainbow 74.

Ha !

Today's captain obvious award goes to...

I love it when they take it seriously.