America turned away because of Prenter?

So i believe it was in " The Great Pretender " Documentary that Brian said it was because of Paul Prenter that America turned away from queen. . Ive never heard this before he said it. I dont see how that can be possible.

Pretty easy. Prenter burned all of their bridges in one shot. Every phone call that came in, he said "Freddie doesn't want to talk to you." And there went a decade of building up relationships in the US.

There is no shortage of people who worked with Queen who will unequivocally state that Prenter is the worst thing that ever happened to that band.

But of course that isn't the only reason Queen had troubles in the US after 1982.

I've always understood that Queen consisted of four intelligent individuals, so I don't really buy this whole story. Sure, Prenter was a major piece of shit, but did he really cause all the problems? So ok, "Freddie doesn't want to talk", but how about Brian, wouldn't he become suspicious at some point that none of their contacts are contacting them? Didn't the band have "official" people to be contacted rather than some cunt that Freddie decided to hire to work for him?

He was one of the official people.

He also caused a rift within the organisation, him and Freddie on one side and the other three on the other.

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

Pretty easy. Prenter burned all of their bridges in one shot. Every phone call that came in, he said "Freddie doesn't want to talk to you." And there went a decade of building up relationships in the US.

There is no shortage of people who worked with Queen who will unequivocally state that Prenter is the worst thing that ever happened to that band.

But of course that isn't the only reason Queen had troubles in the US after 1982.
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Very true Bob. Don’t forget 'the Game' was quite a succes in the US. However the 'Hot Space' album with disco tracks came to soon and when the body language video was released it gave a new meaning to a lot of the tracks of that album which referred to the gay community . The whole of the Us was certainly not ready for this and Hot space went to a disaster in the US . When I want to break free was released with the drag video Queen finally screwed It up....

I just find it hard that 1 man ( even tho he was a piece of crap ) would be responsible for that. If every album after the game was hotter than the next in America, it would be impossible for 1 guy to keep the band away from a continent.

Prenter was one reason, but far from the main reason. America simply didn't like the new music Queen were releasing. Trust me, if Queen put out another album like The Game it would of been big. No problems....Just Ask Judas Priest how 1 album, in their case Turbo Lover almost ruined their career. It's all about the Quality of the music and not neglecting their fan base. I know Queen went in different directions in their career, but it usually was great until Hot Space. Not the worst album I ever heard, but still not very good.

[QUOTE] [b]RadioDaDa wrote:[/b]

I just find it hard that 1 man ( even tho he was a piece of crap ) would be responsible for that. If every album after the game was hotter than the next in America, it would be impossible for 1 guy to keep the band away from a continent. [/QUOTE]

Queen is a business. Hiring good personel is vital for any business. That's why companies all have HR these days.

And even if you think you hired the right guy, things can go wrong. People are not who you think they are. People can change their behaviour.

Next to HR there's a lot of checks and balances in a business. Accountants, lawyers, managers. You wouldn't think one person can bring down a complete business.

Right?

Are you familiair with the seconds oldest bank in the world and how it was brought down by one man? If not, I suggest you read into 'Nick Leeson' who used to work for Barings Bank.

Queen's LPs in the 80s were just fine. Gave them massive hits all over the globe. Paul Prenter was the real problem. Believe it.

To me it is pretty obvious.Queen had built up a loyal fan base in the seventies with successful albums and tours ,and then came The Game,which was massive.Two huge singles and a fully sold out tour.As Freddie himself said,the only way from the top of a ladder was down.Similar to Michael Jackson with Thriller,he could never repeat that success with the follow up Bad.Then in 1982 America's favorite front man grew a bushy mustache,cavorted around in leathers and made a disco album.Prenter did have an effect as he was the go to man on USA rock radio stations,and a lot of them no longer played their records.Still good to see Queen's staunch fans buying the albums,as Hot Space,The Works and The Miracle all seem to have sold around the same,just not the general public.So I would say some of it was due tp Prenter,but not all.

I don't know almost anything about this man, but I don't think that he had so much power over the band and that everyone listened his " orders ". It's impossible.
There were other people around the band who decided about many things.

Homophobia, ignorance and a complete change in musical direction killed Queen in America. IF I had a gun against my head and had to blame ONE person for it then it would have to be Freddie. But fortunately for everyone, he is the one person who couldn't have given a flying fuck. Which I am ok with :-)

I know someone who was with the entourage in S America and reckons the demonising of PP is utter crap. I have seen (published) pics of Brian and Roger with PP where they seem to me very matey. My friend thought the world of PP so maybe not an accurate source of info.
However, there were 4 equal members of this band plus layers of management. How Fred's personal assistant was responsible for bringing down the band's reputation is a bit of a bloody stretch. I'm not saying that he did't cause problems but in an organisation such as Queen'80 onwards there are checks and balances in place to ensure no one person has that much power.

I know someone who was with the entourage in S America and reckons the demonising of PP is utter crap. I have seen (un-published) pics of Brian and Roger with PP where they seem to me very matey. My friend thought the world of PP so maybe not an accurate source of info.
However, there were 4 equal members of this band plus layers of management. How Fred's personal assistant was responsible for bringing down the band's reputation is a bit of a bloody stretch. I'm not saying that he did't cause problems but in an organisation such as Queen'80 onwards there are checks and balances in place to ensure no one person has that much power.

I know someone who was with the entourage in S America and reckons the demonising of PP is utter crap. I have seen (un-published) pics of Brian and Roger with PP where they seem to me very matey. My friend thought the world of PP so maybe not an accurate source of info.
However, there were 4 equal members of this band plus layers of management. How Fred's personal assistant was responsible for bringing down the band's reputation is a bit of a bloody stretch. I'm not saying that he didn't cause problems but in an organisation such as Queen'80 onwards there are checks and balances in place to ensure no one person has that much power.

sorry. correcting typos