Some Adam Lambert fans get on my nerves (read the disclaimer first)

MisterCosmicc wrote:


Adam spent millions and millions of dollars on his album and videos, that's normal. It costs millions per song, especially with Adam's co-writers. I've always noticed with Queen fans enjoy collecting physical product. Why can't Adam fans do the same? I mean, I feel like buying Adam's album when it's on vinyl just to help support him. It's that crazy.

Freddie wrote his whole Mr. Bad Guy album by himself. Not one co-writer. Adam to this day has never released a song written by just him. The worst of it is that Adam Worshippers says, "The people who write songs with Adam are his friends." No, they are acquaintances, and they charge him for the time.

You've no idea how much he spent so it's utterly pointless to keep saying that.

A lot of adam's fans do buy physical copies of his music but you seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that most of the top charting artists have very few actual physical sales but their streaming numbers put them in the chart anyway, it's not about what they earn as everyone knows it's peanuts but streaming is the way things have gone so to keep going on about why people don't buy physical copies is equally pointless when tons of people never buy music except as downloads.

A lot of the co-writers are his friends but regardless I'm sure he pays them just the same and what difference does it make anyway, why do you keep harping on him writing something totally alone, what difference does it make who writes the songs? Who cares if Freddie wrote Mr Bad Guy on his own, why should that make any difference to what Adam does on his own music?

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:


Adam spent millions and millions of dollars on his album and videos, that's normal. It costs millions per song, especially with Adam's co-writers. I've always noticed with Queen fans enjoy collecting physical product. Why can't Adam fans do the same? I mean, I feel like buying Adam's album when it's on vinyl just to help support him. It's that crazy.

Freddie wrote his whole Mr. Bad Guy album by himself. Not one co-writer. Adam to this day has never released a song written by just him. The worst of it is that Adam Worshippers says, "The people who write songs with Adam are his friends." No, they are acquaintances, and they charge him for the time.

You've no idea how much he spent so it's utterly pointless to keep saying that.

A lot of adam's fans do buy physical copies of his music but you seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that most of the top charting artists have very few actual physical sales but their streaming numbers put them in the chart anyway, it's not about what they earn as everyone knows it's peanuts but streaming is the way things have gone so to keep going on about why people don't buy physical copies is equally pointless when tons of people never buy music except as downloads.

A lot of the co-writers are his friends but regardless I'm sure he pays them just the same and what difference does it make anyway, why do you keep harping on him writing something totally alone, what difference does it make who writes the songs? Who cares if Freddie wrote Mr Bad Guy on his own, why should that make any difference to what Adam does on his own music?

AL writes with his friends, so much for branching out, I guess.
What I'd love to see AL do, is write a song by himself and his own...and only his own...thoughts and emotions on paper to see what he may come up with.
I'd have more respect for him if he tried that.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

AL writes with his friends, so much for branching out, I guess.
What I'd love to see AL do, is write a song by himself and his own...and only his own...thoughts and emotions on paper to see what he may come up with.
I'd have more respect for him if he tried that.

Why should he want to do that when he's not a musician? He'd have to write it on computer without real instruments alone in a room, doesn't sound much fun for someone who's essentially an extremely social person who loves nothing more than spending his time with friends. He's a collaborator, it's his favourite thing to do, he likes to be around people that's what inspires him, no idea why it matters which way he writes the songs and what's "so much for branching out" supposed to mean? He previously worked with big names like Max Martin and a team of writers he'd never met before, hardly the same as writing with friends who he has a relationship with or people hand picked because he admires their previous work and can collaborate with on his own terms.

He spends long periods of time on the road away from family and friends, why should he spend time away from them when he's home as well? He's living his life the way he wants, working the way he wants and having fun doing it, that's how he puts his own thoughts and emotions into the songs, they're his real experiences or experiences he's seen friends go through. There's no right or wrong way to be creative and no one should be held to someone else's idea of what they should be doing.

And I'm assuming you have no respect at all for Elvis or Frank Sinatra if you base respect on writing their own songs since neither wrote their own music.

Freddie Jupiter wrote:

Bullshit. He pays people to write songs for him. If he is such a great songwriter/composer why doesn't he wrote a whole song from scratch all by himself like Freddus did many, many times.

Don't be naive, and don't fall for modern marketing tactics. Lamebird is nothing more than a glorified karaoke singer -- also he's fat.

The bullshit is all yours.

You obviously have no idea how royalty payments work and song writing credits are divided. If he had paid a flat fee for a song from a writer he would become the owner of the song so could credit the song to himself. To my knowledge he never has.

If a songs credits say Lambert/Smith it mean Lambert and Mr Smith wrote it.

Now take your bullshit and throw it around somewhere else.

Vocal harmony wrote:

Freddie Jupiter wrote:

Bullshit. He pays people to write songs for him. If he is such a great songwriter/composer why doesn't he wrote a whole song from scratch all by himself like Freddus did many, many times.

Don't be naive, and don't fall for modern marketing tactics. Lamebird is nothing more than a glorified karaoke singer -- also he's fat.

The bullshit is all yours.

You obviously have no idea how royalty payments work and song writing credits are divided. If he had paid a flat fee for a song from a writer he would become the owner of the song so could credit the song to himself. To my knowledge he never has.

If a songs credits say Lambert/Smith it mean Lambert and Mr Smith wrote it.

Now take your bullshit and throw it around somewhere else.

Songwriters tend to bill artists for their time in the studio while writing and recording the track, and then they get royalties after that as well. It’s crazy that the ones Adam hires also write songs for Britney Spears.

You don’t have to be honest with credits, either. Considering Adam needs so many writers on most of his songs, they work on the lyrics too.

I’d bet anything that Adam’s job in terms of song writing is the concept and then approval of new lyrics.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote:

Freddie Jupiter wrote:

Bullshit. He pays people to write songs for him. If he is such a great songwriter/composer why doesn't he wrote a whole song from scratch all by himself like Freddus did many, many times.

Don't be naive, and don't fall for modern marketing tactics. Lamebird is nothing more than a glorified karaoke singer -- also he's fat.

The bullshit is all yours.

You obviously have no idea how royalty payments work and song writing credits are divided. If he had paid a flat fee for a song from a writer he would become the owner of the song so could credit the song to himself. To my knowledge he never has.

If a songs credits say Lambert/Smith it mean Lambert and Mr Smith wrote it.

Now take your bullshit and throw it around somewhere else.

Songwriters tend to bill artists for their time in the studio while writing and recording the track, and then they get royalties after that as well. It’s crazy that the ones Adam hires also write songs for Britney Spears.

You don’t have to be honest with credits, either. Considering Adam needs so many writers on most of his songs, they work on the lyrics too.

I’d bet anything that Adam’s job in terms of song writing is the concept and then approval of new lyrics.

The concept is the most important part of the song. Without it you wouldn't get the finished product or any direction of how the song will look or sound.

rockchic65 wrote:

Why should he want to do that when he's not a musician? (...)

Lambert is a singer. Every singer is a musician. Ergo Lambert is a musician. That’s a fact.

Everybody is musician. If you can sing a karaoke song you're a musician. You've had too much baked beans for breakfast, you're a musician etc.

Sealion wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Why should he want to do that when he's not a musician? (...)

Lambert is a singer. Every singer is a musician. Ergo Lambert is a musician. That’s a fact.

Well I meant he doesn't play any instruments but yeah I class singers as musicians but many don't.

A musician is anyone who is classed as a musician.

And what happens when nobody classes you as a musician? Well, then you can class yourself as a musician, and voila, you're a musician.

rockchic65 wrote:

Sealion wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Why should he want to do that when he's not a musician? (...)

Lambert is a singer. Every singer is a musician. Ergo Lambert is a musician. That’s a fact.

Well I meant he doesn't play any instruments but yeah I class singers as musicians but many don't.

Then they are wrong. There exist definitions.

“A musician is a person who plays a musical instrument or is musically talented. Anyone who composes, conducts, or performs music is referred to as a musician. A musician who plays a musical instrument is also known as an instrumentalist.“

see http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musician
There is a summary of definitions.

People confuse the terms musician and instrumentalist.

Some adam fans??? ALL adam fans!

PAPA EMERITUS VI from The Clergy has spoken!!
Now silence you miserable infidels!!

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

AL writes with his friends, so much for branching out, I guess.
What I'd love to see AL do, is write a song by himself and his own...and only his own...thoughts and emotions on paper to see what he may come up with.
I'd have more respect for him if he tried that.

Why should he want to do that when he's not a musician? He'd have to write it on computer without real instruments alone in a room, doesn't sound much fun for someone who's essentially an extremely social person who loves nothing more than spending his time with friends. He's a collaborator, it's his favourite thing to do, he likes to be around people that's what inspires him, no idea why it matters which way he writes the songs and what's "so much for branching out" supposed to mean? He previously worked with big names like Max Martin and a team of writers he'd never met before, hardly the same as writing with friends who he has a relationship with or people hand picked because he admires their previous work and can collaborate with on his own terms.

He spends long periods of time on the road away from family and friends, why should he spend time away from them when he's home as well? He's living his life the way he wants, working the way he wants and having fun doing it, that's how he puts his own thoughts and emotions into the songs, they're his real experiences or experiences he's seen friends go through. There's no right or wrong way to be creative and no one should be held to someone else's idea of what they should be doing.

And I'm assuming you have no respect at all for Elvis or Frank Sinatra if you base respect on writing their own songs since neither wrote their own music.

Oh, he is not a musician...your words not mine ;-).
I doubt AL would be able to write a song by himself, let alone put it on an album.