A PLACE FOR QUEEN AND AL FANS TO FIGHT IT OUT

rockchic65 wrote:

The head and bicycle parts take up less than 6 minutes of a 2 hour+ show, and the rest is about the music. IMO there's actually less of the messing about in these shows than in previous years. I barely even remember those bits the show is that fast paced.

I know it's short. I'm looking at this as a Queen fan, and maybe I'm the only one who wishes the gimmicks were not a part of it. It's not even orginal at this point. Thing is, Queen with Freddie kept evolving. Q+AL, not so much.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

The head and bicycle parts take up less than 6 minutes of a 2 hour+ show, and the rest is about the music. IMO there's actually less of the messing about in these shows than in previous years. I barely even remember those bits the show is that fast paced.

I know it's short. I'm looking at this as a Queen fan, and maybe I'm the only one who wishes the gimmicks were not a part of it. It's not even orginal at this point. Thing is, Queen with Freddie kept evolving. Q+AL, not so much.

Adam seems to see it as a bit fun and the audience certainly seem to like it and think it's funny. If it weren't working I'm sure they would have quickly dropped it by now.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

The head and bicycle parts take up less than 6 minutes of a 2 hour+ show, and the rest is about the music. IMO there's actually less of the messing about in these shows than in previous years. I barely even remember those bits the show is that fast paced.

I know it's short. I'm looking at this as a Queen fan, and maybe I'm the only one who wishes the gimmicks were not a part of it. It's not even orginal at this point. Thing is, Queen with Freddie kept evolving. Q+AL, not so much.

Adam seems to see it as a bit fun and the audience certainly seem to like it and think it's funny. If it weren't working I'm sure they would have quickly dropped it by now.

I wonder what AL thinks about the Coronet. That will never be "fun" for me. I hate that more than anything...did you guess ;-).

Iron Butterfly wrote:

I wonder what AL thinks about the Coronet. That will never be "fun" for me. I hate that more than anything...did you guess ;-).

He never mentions it but then he never gets asked and aside from one or two die hard fans on facebook no one ever seems to comment on it. A lot of what he does is based on honouring Freddie, especially clothes, he feels Queen were a very theatrical band and that by keeping up that side of things it's a tribute to Freddie and he feels the Queen legacy gives him the freedom to go wild with the outfits and theatricality. I wondered how it would go down at first but loads of people comment that they love it or at least it makes them laugh and they affectionately call him madam etc, if anything from what I see it endears him to people.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

I wonder what AL thinks about the Coronet. That will never be "fun" for me. I hate that more than anything...did you guess ;-).

He never mentions it but then he never gets asked and aside from one or two die hard fans on facebook no one ever seems to comment on it. A lot of what he does is based on honouring Freddie, especially clothes, he feels Queen were a very theatrical band and that by keeping up that side of things it's a tribute to Freddie and he feels the Queen legacy gives him the freedom to go wild with the outfits and theatricality. I wondered how it would go down at first but loads of people comment that they love it or at least it makes them laugh and they affectionately call him madam etc, if anything from what I see it endears him to people.

I can see the bike being tounge in cheek, that sort of thing. The Coronet is gallng to me. I guess it doesn't help that some Glamberts look at that as Brian passing the torch to AL. Yep, I've read that even on Queen boards. It makes me hate it more.
I know some like it. I never have, and I never will.

Another thing that bothers me. AL speaking about Freddie's sexuality. Again. Guardian article this time.
Why is he doing it? He can and he sure has talked about his own sexuality, but Freddie's too. Everything from how AL didn't know how in the closet Freddie was from another recent article to AL now saying he has ascertained Freddie was fully bisexual.
If AL wants to talk about his own sexuality go for it. Freddie's sexuality should not be, it's not his place. AL is singing Freddie's and Queen's songs, that doesn't make him an expert on Freddie's sexuality.
SMH at Adam.

Well, he didn't say alot, but you should know that when a reporter asks, you can never get away without answering something. It just won't happen, otherwise they will just make something up nowadays. I would be willing to bet the sexuality issue has been discussed at length with Brian and Roger. It would seem strange to me if they hadn't seeing as Adam is gay. I assume what he said would have been something he heard from them. I sam not sure what you found offensive, I thought it sounded pretty straight forward and as a gay man, he probably also has an opinion about that time in gay history and that was also a good part of the initial question, I found his answer thoughtful and nothing offensive or earth shattering. I don't understand why it offends you?

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Another thing that bothers me. AL speaking about Freddie's sexuality. Again. Guardian artcle this time.

He constantly gets asked that question in interviews, because he's always been so open I guess they feel they can ask him anything. I don't know what he said in that one but I didn't see anything wrong with what he previously said about thinking Freddie might be very open about his sexuality if he were living in these times. It isn't anything personal, it's not like he's giving away information about him, just his opinion.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Another thing that bothers me. AL speaking about Freddie's sexuality. Again. Guardian artcle this time.

He constantly gets asked that question in interviews, because he's always been so open I guess they feel they can ask him anything. I don't know what he said in that one but I didn't see anything wrong with what he previously said about thinking Freddie might be very open about his sexuality if he were living in these times. It isn't anything personal, it's not like he's giving away information about him, just his opinion.

I added to my post. I wish he would not go there. Glamberts aren't happy to say the least when AL's sexuality is brought up at times, and I'm not happy when AL talks about Freddie's sexuality. Not his place. Plus he has contradicted what he said weeks ago. AL didn't know how in or or out of the closet Freddie was, but now AL has ascertained Freddie was bisexual.

snifflese wrote:

Well, he didn't say alot, but you should know that when a reporter asks, you can never get away without answering something. It just won't happen, otherwise they will just make something up nowadays. I would be willing to bet the sexuality issue has been discussed at length with Brian and Roger. It would seem strange to me if they hadn't seeing as Adam is gay. I assume what he said would have been something he heard from them. I sam not sure what you found offensive, I thought it sounded pretty straight forward and as a gay man, he probably also has an opinion about that time in gay history and that was also a good part of the initial question, I found his answer thoughtful and nothing offensive or earth shattering. I don't understand why it offends you?

He could have said no.
I'm not offended. I'm annoyed to be honest because after all Freddie was a very private person offstage. Freddie isn't here to give his POV or his truth. Why does AL feel entitled to speak about Freddie's sexuality? Because AL is more open about his own? I dunno.

snifflese wrote:

Well, he didn't say alot, but you should know that when a reporter asks, you can never get away without answering something. It just won't happen, otherwise they will just make something up nowadays. I would be willing to bet the sexuality issue has been discussed at length with Brian and Roger. It would seem strange to me if they hadn't seeing as Adam is gay. I assume what he said would have been something he heard from them. I sam not sure what you found offensive, I thought it sounded pretty straight forward and as a gay man, he probably also has an opinion about that time in gay history and that was also a good part of the initial question, I found his answer thoughtful and nothing offensive or earth shattering. I don't understand why it offends you?

He actually says he's discussed it with Brian & Roger and quotes something Roger said:- Understandably, Lambert thinks about Freddie Mercury a lot, discussing with Queen bandmates Roger Taylor and Brian May what he’d have made of a new pop movement that’s seen a raft of queer artists break into the mainstream. “Roger was like: ‘I think he would be really open and upfront about it, because that’s what he was like to all of us.’ [His sexuality] was just taboo in the media. But he was very matter of fact once he’d come to terms with it.

rockchic65 wrote:

snifflese wrote:

Well, he didn't say alot, but you should know that when a reporter asks, you can never get away without answering something. It just won't happen, otherwise they will just make something up nowadays. I would be willing to bet the sexuality issue has been discussed at length with Brian and Roger. It would seem strange to me if they hadn't seeing as Adam is gay. I assume what he said would have been something he heard from them. I sam not sure what you found offensive, I thought it sounded pretty straight forward and as a gay man, he probably also has an opinion about that time in gay history and that was also a good part of the initial question, I found his answer thoughtful and nothing offensive or earth shattering. I don't understand why it offends you?

He actually says he's discussed it with Brian & Roger and quotes something Roger said:- Understandably, Lambert thinks about Freddie Mercury a lot, discussing with Queen bandmates Roger Taylor and Brian May what he’d have made of a new pop movement that’s seen a raft of queer artists break into the mainstream. “Roger was like: ‘I think he would be really open and upfront about it, because that’s what he was like to all of us.’ [His sexuality] was just taboo in the media. But he was very matter of fact once he’d come to terms with it.

As an aside, I don't mind that AL discussed it with Brian and Roger. I would hope that they would keep it between them. Not some tabloid ish statement that AL didn't know in or out of the closet Freddie was.
Freddie didn't trust many reporters or press. Looking back, I don't blame him.
As another aside. I think it's good that AL is speaking about his own sexuality. That could help people, in fact I know it has.
Freddie was an immense talent. That's what I think about him. I don't think it's AL's place to speak about his personal life. Would AL want someone else to do the same to him? For what, to sell a few more papers? It's not worth it,IMO.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

As an aside, I don't mind that AL discussed it with Brian and Roger. I would hope that they would keep it between them. Not some tabloid ish statement that AL didn't know in or out of the closet Freddie was.
Freddie didn't trust many reporters or press. Looking back, I don't blame him.
As another aside. I think it's good that AL is speaking about his own sexuality. That could help people, in fact I know it has.
Freddie was an immense talent. That's what I think about him. I don't think it's AL's place to speak about his personal life. Would AL want someone else to do the same to him? For what, to sell a few more papers? It's not worth it,IMO.

It was just a couple of lines in the article, I doubt he thought anything of it. Plus Freddie's personal life has been talked about in various places, documentaries and interviews, it's definitely no secret so it's not like he's talking about stuff people don't already know. I don't for one minute think he'd say anything told to him in confidence.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

As an aside, I don't mind that AL discussed it with Brian and Roger. I would hope that they would keep it between them. Not some tabloid ish statement that AL didn't know in or out of the closet Freddie was.
Freddie didn't trust many reporters or press. Looking back, I don't blame him.
As another aside. I think it's good that AL is speaking about his own sexuality. That could help people, in fact I know it has.
Freddie was an immense talent. That's what I think about him. I don't think it's AL's place to speak about his personal life. Would AL want someone else to do the same to him? For what, to sell a few more papers? It's not worth it,IMO.

It was just a couple of lines in the article, I doubt he thought anything of it. Plus Freddie's personal life has been talked about in various places, documentaries and interviews, it's definitely no secret so it's not like he's talking about stuff people don't already know. I don't for one minute think he'd say anything told to him in confidence.

Freddie's privacy is worth more than a line or two. If AL didn't think anything of that, well that's a shame.
And I get why Freddie's friends and even family would speak about his life. That's done with love and respect usually. When it's not, such as Freddie's Lovers I think the name of that crapfest was, you bet I'm not happy about that either.

I don't think much was really said either, not in comparison to what is in most tabloids and even on TV. What Adam said was no different than things I have seen on the internet or in documentaries.
There is not much in this world that is private anymore. I saw a bunch of pics on a documentary abiut Queen where they showed scenes from parties, now that was some pretty heavy stuff. If it was a big secret, I am sure that Adam would not reveal anything, but I don't think he said anything earth shattering. It was generic and stuff even I already knew. I am sure Freddie would not be treating his sexuality in this day and age like he did back then, but everyone knew he was gay even then. Where is the private, big secret stuff? Can you find anything else that Adam does that you find offensive? There sure seem to be a lot of things!