As I said look into the forums. FOr most of the QUeen fans that go so far and visit this tragedy Lamebird is just there to make them see Maylor - no one is going because of Lamebird. Tehy would go there even if Kermit would sing (who would do a better job than the tranny)
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
As I said look into the forums. FOr most of the QUeen fans that go so far and visit this tragedy Lamebird is just there to make them see Maylor - no one is going because of Lamebird. Tehy would go there even if Kermit would sing (who would do a better job than the tranny)[/QUOTE]
Like I said, a few people on here, QOL etc, who go despite it being Lambert, just to see Brian & Roger but for the rest it's split between people who've already seen the show and love it, Adam's fans and Queen fans who are skeptical and end up loving him. You can keep insisting that isn't the case but all the evidence out there says otherwise. You can't base your opinion off a handful of die hard fans on a forum, that's just not realistic.
Sorry if that upsets you, though why it should bother you as much as it does I really don't get tbh. Adam says at every turn he's just happy and grateful to be singing with his favourite band and loved Freddie as much as the rest of us. Even the fans who end up loving the show and loving Adam all say he's not Freddie and doesn't try to be, that's why it works, they aren't comparing him, he knows as well as anyone there is no comparing, they just accept him standing in and letting them enjoy the music they love in a live show. It really is that simple.
If he loved Freddie then he should stay away from a microphone and Queen songs as far was he possibly can and stop ridiculing this once mighty band to a sad caricature that is QAL. Utter laughable
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
If he loved Freddie then he should stay away from a microphone and Queen songs as far was he possibly can and stop ridiculing this once mighty band to a sad caricature that is QAL. Utter laughable[/QUOTE]
Who would seriously pass up the chance to sing with their favourite band and hang out and travel with them. He never fails to say how grateful he is for the opportunity, he really does feel honoured to be asked. If people were hating it I'm sure he would have stopped by now but the reality is they don't. No one goes expecting a Queen show, but they still love the version of it they get. It's just a pity you can't be happy for Brian & Roger even if you don't like it yourself, you only need to look at their faces to see how much they are loving being back touring. I saw an interview with Brian on YouTube, a pretty old one, where he was talking about how excited he was to be touring again having thought it was over. I really couldn't begrudge them that joy even if I didn't like Adam. Just my opinion.
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
Freddie never ACTED the Rockstar he WAS a rockstar thru and thru. Lamerbird is acting as if he was one and is failing miserably. He is an EMO pop fluff wanker noone gives a shit about[/QUOTE]
Freddie did act to a degree. He was very different onstage than he was off. His onstage persona was very genuine and very real.
I am not sure how you know that Freddie was genuine and real on stage. To me he struts around and waves things about in lots of weird outfits and I never found that esp. natural or real. It is just a different way that he commands the stage. He had gimmicks and I hate it when you say they are "real gimmicks". A prop or gimmick is the same, no matter who works with them on stage. I think they are great because they are interesting, but the idea one is more real than the other is silly. Freddie looked anything but real on stage. It was almost as if he were attacking the stage and I told you once, he kind of frightened me when I was a young lady. I am sure he was not like that in real life. Adam and Freddie were acting and putting on a show and each does it in his own way, but neither guy is that stage person in real life. If you notice, Adam will do something really silly on stage and then make a face to the audience and bust out giggling. He knows he is silly and the audience knows it and it is just part of the show. I am sure Freddie was like that, too. A front man for a rock group has to be not only a singer, but a good actor with charisma, which they both have. People are drawn to watch them on stage. That is what made Queen and makes QAL fun to watch and a great concert! And of course, the music and singing have to be stellar, that goes without saying!! Everybody likes something different, which is a good thing!
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
I am not sure how you know that Freddie was genuine and real on stage. To me he struts around and waves things about in lots of weird outfits and I never found that esp. natural or real. It is just a different way that he commands the stage. He had gimmicks and I hate it when you say they are "real gimmicks". A prop or gimmick is the same, no matter who works with them on stage. I think they are great because they are interesting, but the idea one is more real than the other is silly. Freddie looked anything but real on stage. It was almost as if he were attacking the stage and I told you once, he kind of frightened me when I was a young lady. I am sure he was not like that in real life. Adam and Freddie were acting and putting on a show and each does it in his own way, but neither guy is that stage person in real life. If you notice, Adam will do something really silly on stage and then make a face to the audience and bust out giggling. He knows he is silly and the audience knows it and it is just part of the show. I am sure Freddie was like that, too. A front man for a rock group has to be not only a singer, but a good actor with charisma, which they both have. People are drawn to watch them on stage. That is what made Queen and makes QAL fun to watch and a great concert! And of course, the music and singing have to be stellar, that goes without saying!! Everybody likes something different, which is a good thing![/QUOTE]
It's an impression I have after watching him and listening to him since he 1992. Yes, I wasn't a fan before then.
Yes, he was out there with his outfits at times, but so was/is that other dude we discuss here ;-).
To me, yes Freddie was genuine onstage. And yes it was acting to a degree, but he also had the talent and guts to pull it off.
I'm disappointed in a way after these years regarding Q+AL that there's still the bike...and the Coronet especially. The banter... seriously, who came up with that?
It would work better for me if the gimmicks were never a part of Q+AL.
The gimmicks! The gimmicks! What do you want him to do, stand there like a statue? When “Frank” comes up from the floor with Adam sitting on top and when he struts over to that silly tricycle, a ripple goes through the whole audience acknowledging how funny it is!
If it was the ‘70’s again and they had the technology to do these kinds of stage effects, I bet Fteddie would have loved doing the same things!
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
Freddie never ACTED the Rockstar he WAS a rockstar thru and thru. Lamerbird is acting as if he was one and is failing miserably. He is an EMO pop fluff wanker noone gives a shit about[/QUOTE]
Wrong. . . . Freddie acted the part on stage.
Off stage he collected art enjoyed an inner circle of educated like minded people and lived the life of a wealthy artist.
Roger was a genuin Rock star, big country house, a number of expensive cars, boats holiday homes home recording studio etc.
Freddie switched on that character for gigs and some interviews, but very quickly became a much quieter person when he wasn't on "duty"
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
The gimmicks! The gimmicks! What do you want him to do, stand there like a statue? When “Frank” comes up from the floor with Adam sitting on top and when he struts over to that silly tricycle, a ripple goes through the whole audience acknowledging how funny it is!
If it was the ‘70’s again and they had the technology to do these kinds of stage effects, I bet Fteddie would have loved doing the same things!
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I want focus to be on the Queen music instead of gimmicks. Isn't it obvious what I would like?
Yes, sure, I bet you can see all the audience react during these shows. That's impossible for one thing.
Oh dear. You are betting what Freddie would have loved, and I double you know much about the guy. If the only times you are going to post about Freddie is to compare him to AL, and bet Freddie would have loved this and that... STFU. Then again, you are the one here who didn't even understand the big deal about TSMGO.
Now you bet Freddie would have loved doing the same things. Freddie's onstage persona changed through the years. One thing that never changed is that the music did the talking instead of relying on the same gimmicks. For years now, AL has been wearing a Coronet, for example. Freddie wore a crown for one tour. If he toured after that, I couldn't imagine him wearing it year after year. AL feels entitled to wear the Coronet for years now.
Icy go take a cold shower and leave me alone. You are not the be all end all authority on Freddie. You didn’t even know who he was until he died!
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Icy go take a cold shower and leave me alone. You are not the be all end all authority on Freddie. You didn’t even know who he was until he died!
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You might need a cold shower after all the lusting you do about AL.
Yep, I admitted I wasn't aware of Freddie before he died. What's your excuse, considering even now you don't care to know about the history of one of Queen's greatest songs. Your own words you "dont get the big deal about TSMGO". Then you turn around and bet Freddie would have loved Q+AL.
I've never said I am an authority about Queen. That's what you throw around when I call you out on your bullshit. But at least I know about many things in Queen history. It's obvious you don't get it or even try to get it regarding many things about Freddie and Queen. Your loss, daring. You are missing out on a huge world of music with your AL fixation.
To me it seems like too much Queen history keeps one from appreciating the current things going on with Queen. I bet not even 5% of people at the concerts know all the Queen trivia. All that matters to enjoy QAL now is a pair of ears and eyes. You either like the music/concert or you don't. Knowing the history of TSMGO is not a prerequisite! Knowing all that stuff keeps you from enjoying anything (with very few exceptions) QAL related. Not sure that is a good thing! I really don't think Caroline lusts after Adam, A little over the top on your part in saying that??
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
To me it seems like too much Queen history keeps one from appreciating the current things going on with Queen. I bet not even 5% of people at the concerts know all the Queen trivia. All that matters to enjoy QAL now is a pair of ears and eyes. You either like the music/concert or you don't. Knowing the history of TSMGO is not a prerequisite! Knowing all that stuff keeps you from enjoying anything (with very few exceptions) QAL related. Not sure that is a good thing! I really don't think Caroline lusts after Adam, A little over the top on your part in saying that??[/QUOTE]
Honestly, snifflese, I've never said I knew or even know everything about Queen. I don't. I do enjoy learning about them, I swear for years every day I came online, I learned something new about the band. Sometimes I still do. I'm the type of person who would like to learn more, I always have been. I like back stories, people's experiences regarding the band, and I admit I'm jack shit compared to other fans knowledge. But it's a Queen board I post on here, so I do think it's important about Queen's history.
What gets me most of all, is the careless view of sweetcaroline I don't get the big deal about TSMGO as she put it...especially when that song is such an important part of Queens history. Many things are important, I feel. If someone is going to be flippant about that, you bet I will have something to say about it.
Yea, she lusts over AL. Her attempt at a thread where she wanted to say AL is so good looking is proof of that, and I've read her posts how gorgeous, sexy etc she thinks he is. Crap like that would be better off on AL's own sites. So, no, I'm not OTT in saying that. She has no qualms about comparing to Trump after all, and that's OTT in my view. What's worse, I say she lusts over AL, or her comparing me to Trump. One of those things is not like the other ;-).
The head and bicycle parts take up less than 6 minutes of a 2 hour+ show, and the rest is about the music. IMO there's actually less of the messing about in these shows than in previous years. I barely even remember those bits the show is that fast paced.
