When I watch videos of the original Queen shows I get the idea that Freddie was the whole show, never stops moving the whole time, up and down the ramps, and the other three guys are just there to support him in the background. I honestly think Brian and Roger get more individual closeup attention in the QAL shows! So that’s why I don’t get why icy thinks Freddie and John are being ignored in the current shows. Was John ever featured in a solo on his bass guitar? I haven’t seen it.
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When I watch videos of the original Queen shows I get the idea that Freddie was the whole show, never stops moving the whole time, up and down the ramps, and the other three guys are just there to support him in the background. I honestly think Brian and Roger get more individual closeup attention in the QAL shows! So that’s why I don’t get why icy thinks Freddie and John are being ignored in the current shows. Was John ever featured in a solo on his bass guitar? I haven’t seen it.
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To me, Queen were the whole show, and not just Freddie. Their dynamic was like nothing I've seen and heard before or since.
I've never said Freddie and John are being ignored. I wish there was more of him. AL does he's no Freddie speech, and nothing said about John. So I wish DOOL was done at least every now and then.
Not sure how you think more focus is on Brian and Roger during these shows, unless you mean the gutiar and drum solo. Most streams I see are usually focused on AL.
Look it up to find out if John ever had a bass solo. But I will tell you this, I miss his presence and talent as much as Freddie's.
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[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
When I watch videos of the original Queen shows I get the idea that Freddie was the whole show, never stops moving the whole time, up and down the ramps, and the other three guys are just there to support him in the background. I honestly think Brian and Roger get more individual closeup attention in the QAL shows! So that’s why I don’t get why icy thinks Freddie and John are being ignored in the current shows. Was John ever featured in a solo on his bass guitar? I haven’t seen it.
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To me, Queen were the whole show, and not just Freddie. Their dynamic was like nothing I've seen and heard before or since.
I've never said Freddie and John are being ignored. I wish there was more of him. AL does he's no Freddie speech, and nothing said about John. So I wish DOOL was done at least every now and then.
Not sure how you think more focus is on Brian and Roger during these shows, unless you mean the gutiar and drum solo. Most streams I see are usually focused on AL.
Look it up to find out if John ever had a bass solo. But I will tell you this, I miss his presence and talent as much as Freddie's.[/QUOTE]
I think what sc means, I could be wrong, is that Freddie was definitely the frontman, in that he took charge and was front and centre throughout most of the show. He interacted with the audience, the call & response, taking to them and he put on a show, but he didn't interact a lot with Brian, Roger & John during songs or even between them. Aside from the parts of the show where Adam actively interacts with them at the end of catwalk, i.e. STL, CLTCL, UP, he does a lot of going up to Brian, puts his arm round him, leans on him and vice versa, goes over to Roger and occasionally Spike and Neil, there's a lot of what I'd call camaraderie between them, so the focus is on them as a whole rather than Adam solely as a frontman.
You are NOT seeing the whole sihow on a stream like you do when you are there in person.
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You are NOT seeing the whole sihow on a stream like you do when you are there in person.
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Gee, can you give a break about that. I haven't been to a Q+AL concert, I have admitted that he never been to one, but I can and I will give my POV about it.
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When I watch videos of the original Queen shows I get the idea that Freddie was the whole show, never stops moving the whole time, up and down the ramps, and the other three guys are just there to support him in the background. I honestly think Brian and Roger get more individual closeup attention in the QAL shows! So that’s why I don’t get why icy thinks Freddie and John are being ignored in the current shows. Was John ever featured in a solo on his bass guitar? I haven’t seen it.
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To me, Queen were the whole show, and not just Freddie. Their dynamic was like nothing I've seen and heard before or since.
I've never said Freddie and John are being ignored. I wish there was more of him. AL does he's no Freddie speech, and nothing said about John. So I wish DOOL was done at least every now and then.
Not sure how you think more focus is on Brian and Roger during these shows, unless you mean the gutiar and drum solo. Most streams I see are usually focused on AL.
Look it up to find out if John ever had a bass solo. But I will tell you this, I miss his presence and talent as much as Freddie's.[/QUOTE]
I think what sc means, I could be wrong, is that Freddie was definitely the frontman, in that he took charge and was front and centre throughout most of the show. He interacted with the audience, the call & response, taking to them and he put on a show, but he didn't interact a lot with Brian, Roger & John during songs or even between them. Aside from the parts of the show where Adam actively interacts with them at the end of catwalk, i.e. STL, CLTCL, UP, he does a lot of going up to Brian, puts his arm round him, leans on him and vice versa, goes over to Roger and occasionally Spike and Neil, there's a lot of what I'd call camaraderie between them, so the focus is on them as a whole rather than Adam solely as a frontman. [/QUOTE]
Freddie was a natural. Sometimes with AL is comes across as a bit forced, and cheesy.
Queen...and I mean all four members, were a powerhouse. Together they were brilliant and nothing could come close to it for me.
When I watch vintage Queen concerts, it still blows me away, from the Rainbow DVD to Wembley. I don't think Freddie, Brian Roger and needed to put arms around each onstage, but I think there was usually a great deal of respect between the guys for the most part, especially in the last couple of years. True brotherhood right there.
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Freddie was a natural. Sometimes with AL is comes across as a bit forced, and cheesy.
Queen...and I mean all four members, were a powerhouse. Together they were brilliant and nothing could come close to it for me.
When I watch vintage Queen concerts, it still blows me away, from the Rainbow DVD to Wembley. I don't think Freddie, Brian Roger and needed to put arms around each onstage, but I think there was usually a great deal of respect between the guys for the most part, especially in the last couple of years. True brotherhood right there.[/QUOTE]
I don't mean from a friendship/respect point of view, just a different way of performing, a different dynamic onstage. Maybe because Adam comes from a theater background where you are mostly interacting with someone all the time, acting a part as opposed to just singing, he's used to that type of performing more. I do know he does it with his solo stuff as well, it just seems to be his way.
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[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
Freddie was a natural. Sometimes with AL is comes across as a bit forced, and cheesy.
Queen...and I mean all four members, were a powerhouse. Together they were brilliant and nothing could come close to it for me.
When I watch vintage Queen concerts, it still blows me away, from the Rainbow DVD to Wembley. I don't think Freddie, Brian Roger and needed to put arms around each onstage, but I think there was usually a great deal of respect between the guys for the most part, especially in the last couple of years. True brotherhood right there.[/QUOTE]
I don't mean from a friendship/respect point of view, just a different way of performing, a different dynamic onstage. Maybe because Adam comes from a theater background where you are mostly interacting with someone all the time, acting a part as opposed to just singing, he's used to that type of performing more. I do know he does it with his solo stuff as well, it just seems to be his way.
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I much prefer Freddie's prescence honestly. IMO, it was much more genuine and real. Hate to say this, but AL much of the time can still come across as acting.
I guess most singers do act in a way. But there's the real deal, and there's not. I'd say for AL with Q+AL it isn't very real, after all, it's 99% not his music.
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[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
Freddie was a natural. Sometimes with AL is comes across as a bit forced, and cheesy.
Queen...and I mean all four members, were a powerhouse. Together they were brilliant and nothing could come close to it for me.
When I watch vintage Queen concerts, it still blows me away, from the Rainbow DVD to Wembley. I don't think Freddie, Brian Roger and needed to put arms around each onstage, but I think there was usually a great deal of respect between the guys for the most part, especially in the last couple of years. True brotherhood right there.[/QUOTE]
I don't mean from a friendship/respect point of view, just a different way of performing, a different dynamic onstage. Maybe because Adam comes from a theater background where you are mostly interacting with someone all the time, acting a part as opposed to just singing, he's used to that type of performing more. I do know he does it with his solo stuff as well, it just seems to be his way.
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I much prefer Freddie's prescence honestly. IMO, it was much more genuine and real. Hate to say this, but AL much of the time can still come across as acting.
I guess most singers do act in a way. But there's the real deal, and there's not. I'd say for AL with Q+AL it isn't very real, after all, it's 99% not his music. [/QUOTE]
I really like Adam's way of doing things, but equally I like lots of other performers as well. I know from comments I see it's what a lot of people mention liking, the chemistry between them onstage and people used to mention it about him and Tommy from his original band. It is a lot different live, it doesn't seem as in your face and over hyped as it can appear on the vids when every little expression is so obvious. I do think all performers act to a degree to engage the audience, it's just a matter of preference what we like and don't like.
Iron Butterfly - you hit the nail on its (ugly) head: Lamebird is ACTING as if he was a rockstar. And he is acting like some in a d-Movie. He comes across as a giant dick, completely unocnvincing , contrived boring - and his awful screeching voice is the icing on the shitfest.
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Iron Butterfly - you hit the nail on its (ugly) head: Lamebird is ACTING as if he was a rockstar. And he is acting like some in a d-Movie. He comes across as a giant dick, completely unocnvincing , contrived boring - and his awful screeching voice is the icing on the shitfest.[/QUOTE]
Only to you and a handful of others, the majority are loving it and I suspect that's what really bugs you the most. And like I said, all performers act.
And again the ultimate reviewer who's never been to a show knows best.
The truth is that anyone who is on stage and communicates with an audience in that way is acting "the part" Freddie included. Your perception is clouded by your preconceived hate for what Lambert does and who you think he is. If it was the other way around and he was the original singer in a band and Freddie came along now as a replacment/stand in aged 30 ish you'd hate him too.
Meanwhile what really matters is the band and the thousands of ticket holders, each night, are enjoying what they do.
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[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
Iron Butterfly - you hit the nail on its (ugly) head: Lamebird is ACTING as if he was a rockstar. And he is acting like some in a d-Movie. He comes across as a giant dick, completely unocnvincing , contrived boring - and his awful screeching voice is the icing on the shitfest.[/QUOTE]
Only to you and a handful of others, the majority are loving it and I suspect that's what really bugs you the most. And like I said, all performers act.
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I agree all performers act. Some are better than others. For me, Freddie was more genuine and natural than I've ever seen AL be singing the Queen songs.
Freddie never ACTED the Rockstar he WAS a rockstar thru and thru. Lamerbird is acting as if he was one and is failing miserably. He is an EMO pop fluff wanker noone gives a shit about
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Freddie never ACTED the Rockstar he WAS a rockstar thru and thru. Lamerbird is acting as if he was one and is failing miserably. He is an EMO pop fluff wanker noone gives a shit about[/QUOTE]
There you go again spouting bullshit. No one? I think you'll find loads of people give a shit about him, in fact millions, just not a few Queen fans on here and dotted around on social media. If you must have a go at least stick to facts.
