May - Descending Further Into The Abyss

QE2. wrote:

Brenski You still hurled bottles on to Queens stage and that itself is a disgrace if you call yourself a Queen fan which i barely doubt you are.

Throughout the early European/UK dates in 1982 hundreds of people were throwing stuff at the stage. If your going to call one person out you better be prepared to call everyone out who did it.

Then maybe you'd like to take on the audience at Queen's first Rock in Rio date. They were throwing stuff at Freddie. Not the support act.

Throwing stuff at Queen's stage is a disgrace? It wasn't their stage, it was hired for the out door shows from Edwin Shirley staging a subsidiary of Edwin Shirley Trucking.

At least brENsKi admitted what he'd done and how regretful he feels about it. I've never seen you admit to any wrong doings, or apologise for anything you've ever said or done.

Well you are wrong there because i sent Brenski a private message 4 weeks ago apologising but he started to get obnoxious again with others
so i waded in and tore two strips off him for his behaviour.
Queens stage was still there office where they perform and anyone who is a serious fan would not disrespect the band by doing such an terrible thing.

QE2. wrote:Well you are wrong there because i sent Brenski a private message 4 weeks ago

more lies. I initiated the communications (TWICE)...I was the one who reached out and tried to make a peace with you. you accepted it - and later reneged on it. but don't claim you messaged me. your PMs were replies to my attempt at an olive branch. you only apologised because someone had reached out to you first - made it easy for you to meet halfway. if it had been down to you to make the first move, it would NEVER have happened. my admission of my role in things has been on an open forum. your's have been via reply PMs.
apologising privately for racist offence, then publicly continuing to make dozen more racist comments - is the action of the someone playing games.
for those who criticise me for sharing these PMs - tough!, sometimes it's necessary to prove exactly who is being false. NOTHING that would be covered by the GPDR is shared here...only proof that Gerry is misleading again. Contact was initiated by myself. and promises were broken by Gerry - which he privately (not publicly) admitted.[/i]

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QE2. wrote:Queens stage was still there office where they perform and anyone who is a serious fan would not disrespect the band by doing such an terrible thing.

i hurled stuff at a support band (back in 1982 - when i was in my teens) - held my hands up to it - even admitted how bad i felt about it, and shortly after that gig, went out and bought all of the Teardrops records...i've even bought everything Copey has done since!
and now you're claiming it was being disrespectful to "Queen's stage"...weird.
so basically anything even remotely "Queen connected" cannot be disrespected - in any way at all?
so care to explain your hypocrisy at the abuse you hurl at Brian and Roger on these forum boards for 5+ years?

[color=red]now, i've clarified exactly what happened, i'll argue no further on this - i'm out of this conversation too. i'll leave his Gerryness to argue with others. [/color][/i]

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Do you have any idea why it is called "Personal Message" ?

The members of *ALL* classic rock bands have lost the plot by this time so I see no reason no pick on Brian May. What can they do? Their glory days are past and it's unlikely they'll be content with flipping burgers in McDonalds now so we should smile and nod at whatever they choose to do these days. Just be grateful of the music they gave us all those decades ago.

My criticism of Brian and & Roger is mainly constructive criticism because they have done loads of things that Freddie would have hated in the 28 years that he has been gone,
Brian has dominated Queen and he seems to think its his band alone, not letting Roger take equal measure of the band.
Taylor just agrees to about anything Brian wants to do.
Many of us Queen fans watched the band perform and we were not thugs like you who acted like imbeciles making the bands job stressful by hurling bottles and that Rock in Rio
incident was because Freddie wore a bra and the audience did not like cross dressing men, back then.

QE2. wrote:

My criticism of Brian and & Roger is mainly constructive criticism because they have done loads of things that Freddie would have hated in the 28 years that he has been gone,
Brian has dominated Queen and he seems to think its his band alone, not letting Roger take equal measure of the band.
Taylor just agrees to about anything Brian wants to do.
Many of us Queen fans watched the band perform and we were not thugs like you who acted like imbeciles making the bands job stressful by hurling bottles and that Rock in Rio
incident was because Freddie wore a bra and the audience did not like cross dressing men, back then.

All of this post is supposition, none is based on hard facts.

Probably all the Queen fans present at any Queen gig watched the band and indeed didn't throw anything, at them. But a large number took exception to a couple of the support bands first in Europe then in the UK and launched what ever was available at the stage. I've seen a lot worse at other gigs and festivals.

At Rio it had nothing to do with underwear, but had a lot to do with Freddie's very large latex tits, and wig, worn during a song that represented a lot politically and emotionally to that audience, something a more aware artist would have understood and not been caught out by.

How the fuck did we get from Brian recently wearing a mask onstage to people throwing things onstage at a Queen show 3 decades ago?

QE2. wrote:

My criticism of Brian and & Roger is mainly constructive criticism ...

That's possibly the stupidest thing you've said on the forum, and you've given yourself much competition. I note, for example, you've recently referred to B&R working with a 'bender'. Classy and constructive indeed ...

QE2. wrote:

Brian has dominated Queen and he seems to think its his band alone, not letting Roger take equal measure of the band.
Taylor just agrees to about anything Brian wants to do.

I assume you have some proof of this?

At the end of the day you have to know when to call it a day. Like Deacy did.

As far as I'm concerned the Adam crapbert thing was completely unnecessary and should never have happened. The Paul Rodgers thing I can kind of live with, but crapbert and queen is a disaster, as was the five thing and the robbie Williams thing etc.

Freddie Jupiter wrote:

At the end of the day you have to know when to call it a day. Like Deacy did.

As far as I'm concerned the Adam crapbert thing was completely unnecessary and should never have happened. The Paul Rodgers thing I can kind of live with, but crapbert and queen is a disaster, as was the five thing and the robbie Williams thing etc.

You don't have to like it but it's far from a disaster as their success proves.

And why should they call it a day just because John chose to? That was his decision, he'd had enough of touring and that's fine but for Brian & Roger they're still enjoying playing live and that's their prerogative, it's not their fault their career as Queen was cut short.

They should have called it a day because there is no queen without Freddus and you should always try to go out on a high.

Freddie Jupiter wrote:

They should have called it a day because there is no queen without Freddus and you should always try to go out on a high.

If they stopped tomorrow they'd be going out on a high, only someone purposely trying to belittle them would say any different.

No one is trying to be nasty but i agree with (Freddie Jupitus) Queen what is left of them, should have left the legacy well alone and moved on to new things and make new solo albums or got involved with other artists.
Queen today do not exist technically because Queen was a four man band so anyone of the guys was not Queen on there own.
Four = Queen not Two.