More bullshit and obfuscation from you Brenski. First of all how do you know that he didn't have a permit to film. Did Brian ask for his permit before assaulting him? Second how do you you know that he even needed am permit in this case, given that a permit is not always required even if filming for financial gain. Third he was filming with his phone for personal use at the time of the assault, and the law is very clear and unambiguous that when filming for personal use a permit is NEVER required.
Just accept that Brian was in the wrong finally. You'll feel better.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Freddie Jupiter wrote:[/b]
More bullshit and obfuscation from you Brenski. First of all how do you know that he didn't have a permit to film. Did Brian ask for his permit before assaulting him? Second how do you you know that he even needed am permit in this case, given that a permit is not always required even if filming for financial gain. Third he was filming with his phone for personal use at the time of the assault, and the law is very clear and unambiguous that when filming for personal use a permit is NEVER required.
Just accept that Brian was in the wrong finally. You'll feel better.[/QUOTE]
you've missed the point. he CAN film, until the person being filmed asks him to stop. at that point permission is withdrawn. he didn't stop. he broke the law by not stopping - he knows this, which is WHY he hasn't pressed charges.
lots of journos film with their phones these days. that's what happens when a celeb appears and they aren't with their cameraman. it's not personal use, he works for a TV company. where did you think the footage would end up? ffs get real.
Freddie Jupiter · Member since
No, there is no law that says you have to stop filming in public when somebody asks you to stop. The only exception would be if you were being unreasonable and stalking somebody and invading people's personal space by thrusting the camera in their faces etc.
And even if there were such a law, Brian would have no right to take the law into his own hands. He could call the police, certainly, but he would have no right to make threatening remarks and slap the phone out of people's hands. That would be illegal. End of.
Nathan H · Member since
But the camera did wrong too! Otherwise he would've pressed charges.
Nathan H · Member since
But the camera did wrong too! Otherwise he would've pressed charges.
Freddie Jupiter · Member since
No, the cameraman did absolutely nothing wrong - he was doing his job and nothing he did was illegal.
As to why he didn't press charges is anyone's guess. Perhaps he genuinely was a queen fan as he said, and the whole process would have been a royal pain in the ass anyway.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Freddie Jupiter wrote:[/b]
No, the cameraman did absolutely nothing wrong - he was doing his job and nothing he did was illegal.
As to why he didn't press charges is anyone's guess. Perhaps he genuinely was a queen fan as he said, and the whole process would have been a royal pain in the ass anyway. [/QUOTE]
if he was "doing his job" then this was for financial gain. therefore, once a person asks him to stop, then permission to film has been withdrawn.
Star* · Member since
Brenski camera man was doing his job he was employed by channel 7.
Brian surely expected publicity telling everyone he was coming to Australia for the charity concerts, so what did he expect no one there waiting?
Freddie Jupiter · Member since
Are you thick or something? I've already explained that he could have had a permit, and that a permit is not always necessary, even when filming for financial gain. Plus he was filming for his personal use at the time of the assault and not for financial gain. And Brian has no right to stop him from filming even if the cameraman was breaking the law because that would be taking the law into your own hands, and that's illegal.
Whichever way you slice it, Brian was in the wrong, and there is zero evidence that the cameraman was breaking any law in any way whatever.
Why are we still talking about this? Learn to accept facts and truth and move on. There is no other way.
Star* · Member since
Freddie Jupiter You are wasting your time with Brenski he is Irish and cannot compute small pieces of info.
just leave it and chat with someone who has a brain.
Freddie Jupiter · Member since
Also you you have no right to privacy when you are in a public place. You simply can't force anybody to give you privacy when you are in a public place. It simply cannot be done, even if you are Brian May.
Freddie Jupiter · Member since
ST16, I was quite enjoying reading the mental gymnastics and completely irrational rationalisations, but I must admit, it's getting quite tiresome now.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]ST16 wrote:[/b]
Freddie Jupiter You are wasting your time with Brenski he is Irish and cannot compute small pieces of info.
just leave it and chat with someone who has a brain.[/QUOTE]
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Freddie Jupiter wrote:[/b]
Are you thick or something? I've already explained that he could have had a permit, and that a permit is not always necessary, even when filming for financial gain. Plus he was filming for his personal use at the time of the assault and not for financial gain. And Brian has no right to stop him from filming even if the cameraman was breaking the law because that would be taking the law into your own hands, and that's illegal.
Whichever way you slice it, Brian was in the wrong, and there is zero evidence that the cameraman was breaking any law in any way whatever.
Why are we still talking about this? Learn to accept facts and truth and move on. There is no other way.[/QUOTE]
We're talking about it because you chose to argue against those of us who don't believe you to be right.
The guy was a professional camera man getting paid to do a job. But when asked to stop filming he appeared to but carried on sound recording, when asked again he stepped away and started filming with his phone. . .
So was he carrying on filming for ch7 which he was asked not to do or maybe filming young fans for his own purposes. . . You see Mr Jupiter you can slice this lots of ways not just your way.
What we know is that Brian was pissed off at the incident, the parents of the fans were firmly on Brian's side and channel 7 did nothing about it. . . Well isn't that strange.
Remember you've turned up on this site and almost immediately lashed out at Brian May, made your views clear on the current tour and had very little to say about anything else
You're views at the moment are not really worth that much, and before you jump back in remember that some of us heave been here for years and don't all agree on everything. But viewing things with a wider view than I don't like Brian May therefore he is wrong might be a better way to think because at the moment you seem to beriding on a couple of people's coat tails who have been proved wrong countless times.
