@The Real Wizard You need to wind your neck in sunshine.
Plenty of people on here make spelling mistakes but you have to be the bully yet again by picking on me.
Queen still sell tickets because they are linked to that memory of Freddie Mercury and many have more respect for Brian and Roger than a weird fucked up freak than Adam Lambert.
Lambert is NOT the reason Queen win awards, so you need to get educated on Queen history buddy.
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ST16 wrote:Queen still sell tickets because they are linked to that memory of Freddie Mercury and many have more respect for Brian and Roger than a weird fucked up freak than Adam Lambert.
do YOU honestly think that people are going to see this incarnation of Queen because of a memory or respect for Bri/Rog? People are going because they like what they see/hear.
As I said before; [color=green]it's not to my taste - so I don't go.[/color][/i] but if it was anything other than a great experience then the write-ups/reviews would be shit...and people would stop going.
they weren't, and it hasn't. therefore, your/runner_70/Freddie Jupiter and any other gainsayers opinions are in a microscopic (but largely vocal) woefully incorrect minority.
shout, shout and shout again...but it makes no difference. if something is working, people buy it.
and YOU and your gainsayers continue to lose, your abject futility - railing against a juggernaut of popular opinion. you can't stop it, so why waste energy trying?
Freddie Jupiter wrote:Do you guys honestly think that there are only three people in the world who disapprove of Brian's behaviour of late, and who also happen to dislike crapbert?
You guys are delusional AF.
the real delusion is that your minority group actually believe yourselves to be popular opinion. you really couldn't be further form the truth.
Freddie Jupiter wrote:
This is the first time I made an account here. If you think that I'm runner 70 or one of the other anti brian, anti crapbert posters, you couldn't be more mistaken.
Don't belive me? Get in touch with the admin and he or she will tell you that my isp address has never logged on this site before -- ever.
Welcome on board then. ANy Glamtart thinks it is only ONE person who does not like the goat. Delusional Glamtarts
Freddie Jupiter wrote:
If it weren't for Freddie we wouldn't be here talking about some overweight karaoke singer in 2020. The reason we are is 100 percent down to Freddie. Have you forgotten how queen were on the verge of disappearing in the mid 70s. They needed a big hit and it was Freddie who duly delIvered. First with killer queen, then with no rhap and somebody to love and watc. If it hadn't been for that Adam Lameass would be working as a companion for hire and Brian would be a failed astronomer.
Yeah and it could be argued that if Brian and Roger hadn't formed Smile and consequently met Freddie Freddie's only contribution to popular music may have been the Wreckage recordings and those songs sound piss poor in comparison to what Smile did.
So yeah Brian May could well be an Astronomer now if it wasn't for music. Why a failed astronomer? He was invited by Sir Bernard Lovell to join his team of research astronomers, doesn't sound like a path to failure. He attained a high level of education. So where would Freddie be without his musical career, he didn't have anything else lined up and didn't have anything like the degree Brian May had. . . . . Market trader?
It wasn't just Freddie, it was the collective talents of the four of them that made Queen work, of course that would have escaped you just viewing Queen as being Freddie.
@Vocal Harmony Freddie could have gone into fashion or a Graphics Designer he was a very talented guy and music was not his only choice of career. If it was not for Freddie's input then the other three would not have hit the big time.
ST16 wrote:@Vocal Harmony Freddie could have gone into fashion or a Graphics Designer he was a very talented guy and music was not his only choice of career. If it was not for Freddie's input then the other three would not have hit the big time.
and he may not have. it's all conjecture.
the point being. Brian, Roger and John had much better academic qualifications - which would better equip them for life in the real world - should music plans fall through.
Brian May: Physics BSc Honours - degree
Roger Taylor: Biology BSc - degree
John Deacon: Electronics 1st Class Honours - degree
Freddie Mercury: graphic art and design - diploma
Freddie's qualification - a diploma is inferior to a degree and significantly inferior to a BSc honours degree.
Then there's the age thing:
The band were around 26-27 when their first LP was released and 28 by the time of the first hit.This is considerably old for rock/pop bands.
Roger and Brian had recorded an LP back in the 60s - so they were business aware, Freddie wasn't.
'bRENSKI Bollocks Freddie was more business like than Roger & Brian put together, who do you think put the band in the right direction and got them huge - Freddie,
May & Taylor had tried and struggle in bands and Tim Staffell was pissed off with Smile so he left to join another band.
May & Taylor had tried and struggle in bands and Tim Staffell was pissed off with Smile so he left to join another band.
ST16 wrote:'bRENSKI Bollocks Freddie was more business like than Roger & Brian put together, who do you think put the band in the right direction and got them huge - Freddie,
May & Taylor had tried and struggle in bands and Tim Staffell was pissed off with Smile so he left to join another band.
your revisionist history at work again?
Taylor and May had recorded an LP with Smile in 1969! It may not have been a commercial success - but, was still greater than Freddie's recording output (zilch) prior to Queen.
Freddie's pre-Queen bands were an unmitigated disaster. Regardless of what YOU think. it was the culmination of the FOUR band members that made Queen a success. if it were the one-man mission you claim it to be, then why was Mr Bad Guy such a pile of shite without the critical input of the others?
Contrary to your myopia: Freddie was not the infallible 100% perfect human being you cite him to be. Had this been the case, he may still be alive today:
>> he didn't look after his vocal cords (his instrument) shoveling cocaine and nicotine down there.
>> he was promiscuous to the point of recklessness taking unnecessary risks with his own life and those of others.
Brenski That was an unfair assumption of Freddie saying he would be alive today if he was infallible that just shows your ignorance of a world in the 80s that did not understand AIDS
and show what a homophobic prick you really are.
Mr Bad Guy never sold as well as hoped but that did not make Freddie a bad artist, he had some success with his solo music like The Great Pretender as an example.
i could argue that The Cosmos Rocks was a disaster because Freddie was not around to make it successful but you see i am not petty enough to or narrow minded enough to be Brenski.
and show what a homophobic prick you really are.
Mr Bad Guy never sold as well as hoped but that did not make Freddie a bad artist, he had some success with his solo music like The Great Pretender as an example.
i could argue that The Cosmos Rocks was a disaster because Freddie was not around to make it successful but you see i am not petty enough to or narrow minded enough to be Brenski.
ST16 wrote:[color=red]Brenski That was an unfair assumption of Freddie saying he would be alive today if he was infallible that just shows your ignorance of a world in the 80s that did not understand AIDS and show what a homophobic prick you really are.[/color]
this might be the point where you SHOULD retract that ^ comment - along with your racist posts. there is NOTHING homphobic about saying that infallibility would mean still being alive. it's a clear statement - infalibility actually means being incapable of mistakes. and if you're citing the promiscuity comment as some kind of homophobia, then, again - you couldn't be further from the truth. the simple fact of life is that many STIs/STDs DO kill! - even today. How readily, you forget that I worked in prisons for 30+ years - so I'm aware of what STIs can do to people. Also, you forget that my last role was Equality Manager - so although I may insult people where I feel it's justified, however, I WILL NOT make hompohobic, ageist, gender or religion-related insults.
For YOUR Information:
HIV, Hepatitus B, HPV and Syphilis - if left untreated CAN be fatal...and can all be transmitted via both heterosexual and homosexual contact.
any chance you'll remove your "homophobic" accusation? thought not.
ST16 wrote:[color=red]Mr Bad Guy never sold as well as hoped but that did not make Freddie a bad artist, he had some success with his solo music like The Great Pretender as an example.[/color]i never said he was a bad artist - read again: i said Mr Bad Guy was (IMO) shite. and I feel the reason for that was a lack of constructive criticism from the other 3 band members. Once Freddie was given free rein he lost some quality control, and, surrounded by "yes men and hangers-on" nodding appreciatively at him - resulted in an inferior project.
Strange that the Barcelona LP sounded so much better...could that be Mike Moran's huge influence helped to shape the thing and pull freddie's excesses back on script?
It's all good saying that Brian and Roger didn't make the big time with Smile but Freddie didn't with Ibex/Wreckage or Sour Milk Sea. It took all four members to make Queen as we know it today.
Freddie would've left Queen if he thought he was the only one contributing significantly. It's not called "Freddie Mercury's Queen" as Brian, Roger and John weren't a backing band.
Freddie talked about Mr Bad Guy in an interview and he said it was basically him leading the backing musicians who did everything he said whereas with Queen they all contributed their ideas which he admitted he rathered.
Freddie would've left Queen if he thought he was the only one contributing significantly. It's not called "Freddie Mercury's Queen" as Brian, Roger and John weren't a backing band.
Freddie talked about Mr Bad Guy in an interview and he said it was basically him leading the backing musicians who did everything he said whereas with Queen they all contributed their ideas which he admitted he rathered.
Again more bullshit rationalisations.
The reason Freddie didn't make it with his pre queen bands is because he wasn't on the same level as a musician and performer then as he was in the mid 70s.
In the mid 70s however, he was on a completely different plane musically, lyrically and performance wise and that's what mattered. At the end of the day when crunch time came it was Freddie who stepped up to the plate and delivered, not Brian, not roger, not John. If he hadn't we would not be having this discussion right now and Brian would be a failed or mediocre astronomer.
All the bullshit about ibex, or whatever, is completely irrelevant to the discussion. Its actually a lot simpler than that. There comes a time when a band has to deliver and it either does or it doesn't. In queens case it delivered thanks to Freddie.
Brian and roger are absolutely delusional if they think that they would have somehow maybe made it without Freddie just because they are good musicians. The whole history of music is overflowing with good musicals who never made it because they were missing that one magical ingerdient. And in queen that magical ingredient was Freddie.
It's not a case of percentages of contributions that Brian has mathematically calculated. It's a a case of a single, almost intangible magical ingredient that does it. And nothing else would have done.
The reason Freddie didn't make it with his pre queen bands is because he wasn't on the same level as a musician and performer then as he was in the mid 70s.
In the mid 70s however, he was on a completely different plane musically, lyrically and performance wise and that's what mattered. At the end of the day when crunch time came it was Freddie who stepped up to the plate and delivered, not Brian, not roger, not John. If he hadn't we would not be having this discussion right now and Brian would be a failed or mediocre astronomer.
All the bullshit about ibex, or whatever, is completely irrelevant to the discussion. Its actually a lot simpler than that. There comes a time when a band has to deliver and it either does or it doesn't. In queens case it delivered thanks to Freddie.
Brian and roger are absolutely delusional if they think that they would have somehow maybe made it without Freddie just because they are good musicians. The whole history of music is overflowing with good musicals who never made it because they were missing that one magical ingerdient. And in queen that magical ingredient was Freddie.
It's not a case of percentages of contributions that Brian has mathematically calculated. It's a a case of a single, almost intangible magical ingredient that does it. And nothing else would have done.
Freddie Jupiter wrote:
Again more bullshit rationalisations.
The reason Freddie didn't make it with his pre queen bands is because he wasn't on the same level as a musician and performer then as he was in the mid 70s.
In the mid 70s however, he was on a completely different plane musically, lyrically and performance wise and that's what mattered. At the end of the day when crunch time came it was Freddie who stepped up to the plate and delivered, not Brian, not roger, not John. If he hadn't we would not be having this discussion right now and Brian would be a failed or mediocre astronomer.
All the bullshit about ibex, or whatever, is completely irrelevant to the discussion. Its actually a lot simpler than that. There comes a time when a band has to deliver and it either does or it doesn't. In queens case it delivered thanks to Freddie.
Brian and roger are absolutely delusional if they think that they would have somehow maybe made it without Freddie just because they are good musicians. The whole history of music is overflowing with good musicals who never made it because they were missing that one magical ingerdient. And in queen that magical ingredient was Freddie.
It's not a case of percentages of contributions that Brian has mathematically calculated. It's a a case of a single, almost intangible magical ingredient that does it. And nothing else would have done.
the only time he recorded a whole LP by himself (Mr Bad Guy) it ended up a mess. case closed.
@Brenski Barcelona album was a different alternative to rock n roll for Freddie and Mike Moran only would have guided Freddie on the production side of things, Freddie's song writing
was still as vibrant as ever. Mr Bad Guy was Freddie doing what he wanted to do on his own so although you do not like it others do including myself.
You are not god and i think Freddie could sleep at night knowing that you never purchased a copy of his fab album!
was still as vibrant as ever. Mr Bad Guy was Freddie doing what he wanted to do on his own so although you do not like it others do including myself.
You are not god and i think Freddie could sleep at night knowing that you never purchased a copy of his fab album!