Anyone notice how much effort was put into early queen albums, then its as if they had their success and fortune after day at the races and didn't t bother much with songs aftee that. In the 80s freddie was too busy doing coke and shagging to spend any time in the studio and the rest of the band didn't give a shit. Also white man, sweet lady and get down make love are the worst queen songs ever.
Kuijpy · Member since
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Cruella de Vil · Member since
White Man? Try playing the drums , bass or guitar to Sweet Lady and get back to me with a more informed opinion is.
Anton3283 · Member since
What? It seems that the author is drunk.
White man and sweet lady:despite the fact that the author of these two songs is not Freddie, in my humble opinion he put so much expression and power into these songs. And I can not call these two songs the worst.
The Ghost of Lester Burnham · Member since
Sir, this is a Wendy's.
Misfire. · Member since
Queen were not lazy in the 80s they were the hardest working touring band of all rock groups.
They toured all around the globe and it was a case of tour album tour album....... in between Brian Roger & Freddie recorded solo projects.
"Sweet Lady" is a great song from "A Night At The Opera !
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE][color=SaddleBrown][b]Benross wrote:[/b] [i]Queen never did the Band Aid Single because there were very busy touring the globe[/color][/i][/QUOTE]] stop re-writing history. they were not asked to perform on the Band Aid single - [b]Spike Edney[/b] (who played with Queen and The Boomtown Rats) even confirmed as much: [color=blue][i]"Queen were definitely disappointed that they hadn't been asked to appear on Do They Know It's Christmas"[/color][/i]
[QUOTE][color=SaddleBrown][b]Benross wrote:[/b] [i]were very busy touring the globe so they were hardly lazy.[/color][/i][/QUOTE]stop moving the goalposts - the topic is about lazy songwriting - not touring.
[QUOTE][color=SaddleBrown][b]Benross wrote:[/b] [i]Queen were more popular in the 80s than they were in the 70s so they must have been doing something right with there music. They were even voted best band of the 80s on a TV show in 1989. [/color][/i][/QUOTE]when will you grasp basic English? UK polls/votes are a micro-snapshot of one place at one time - it's nothing like the whole real world reality. these things change - the same polls 5 years later had Nirvana way out in front and Queen nowhere to be seen. Polls and votes mean nothing. Popular does not mean better. A Ford Focus is more popular than a Lamborghini Aventador, but no sane person would ever call it better.
[QUOTE][color=SaddleBrown][b]Benross wrote:[/b] [i]Call the bands song writing lazy but at least they were more popular than Led Zeppelin and bands of that nature.[/color][/i][/QUOTE]If we're going to use your "sales" criteria as a measurement, then you're wrong again. Zep did not release singles, so you can only compare like-for-like. Zep outsold Queen's total album sales worldwide by some distance.
Misfire. · Member since
Disagree because The Game, The Works were powerful albums, and Hot Space is Queen's fourth biggest album.
The band did not like staying to the same formula of song writing so they always surprised the fans every new album with new styles of
song writing,
They still had top 10 singles and albums and were never out of the spotlight in the 80s!
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
None of that says anything about the quality of songwriting. You could not have missed the point more if you'd tried.
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Benross wrote:[/b]
Disagree because The Game, The Works were powerful albums, and Hot Space is Queen's fourth biggest album.
The band did not like staying to the same formula of song writing so they always surprised the fans every new album with new styles of
song writing,
They still had top 10 singles and albums and were never out of the spotlight in the 80s![/QUOTE]
Don't mistake song writing and recording quality with sales success.
I like Hot Space but I'm under no illusion that it represents the best of their work. The Works was an attempt at returning to former style and sound and as such feels a bit thin and formularised.
Your earlier comments about them releasing albums regularly touring all over the world in the 80's just isn't true. Through out their career they toured a lot less than many other bands. In 1982 they had an under sold US tour and didn't play there again (biggest live market in the world) The Uk Hot Space tour sold well but didn't sell out. The Magic tour played Europe/UK not a world tour.
The Works tour dates performed in short legs, didn't deliver consistent shows, unless you were lucky enough to see the early shows in the UK and some of Europe.
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Benross wrote:[/b]
Disagree because The Game, The Works were powerful albums, and Hot Space is Queen's fourth biggest album.
The band did not like staying to the same formula of song writing so they always surprised the fans every new album with new styles of
song writing,
They still had top 10 singles and albums and were never out of the spotlight in the 80s![/QUOTE]
Don't mistake song writing and recording quality with sales success.
I like Hot Space but I'm under no illusion that it represents the best of their work. The Works was an attempt at returning to former style and sound and as such feels a bit thin and formularised.
Your earlier comments about them releasing albums regularly touring all over the world in the 80's just isn't true. Through out their career they toured a lot less than many other bands. In 1982 they had an under sold US tour and didn't play there again (biggest live market in the world) The Uk Hot Space tour sold well but didn't sell out. The Magic tour played Europe/UK not a world tour.
The Works tour dates performed in short legs, didn't deliver consistent shows, unless you were lucky enough to see the early shows in the UK and some of Europe.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE][color=SaddleBrown][b]Benross wrote:[/b] [i]Disagree because The Game, The Works were powerful albums, and Hot Space is Queen's fourth biggest album.[/color][/i][/QUOTE]sales do not constitute song-writing quality. your criteria makes Black Lace, Barron Knights, The Firm (Star Trekkin) and Spitting Image great song-writing compositions. can you not see the hugfe flaw in your argument?
[QUOTE][color=SaddleBrown][b]Benross wrote:[/b] [i]The band did not like staying to the same formula of song writing so they always surprised the fans every new album with new styles of
song writing,[/color] [/i][/QUOTE] Yes they did! from 72-76 the songwriting was very similar in style, lots of formulas were carried from album to album. the songs "grew up a little", but contained many of those early hallmarks. in fact it was the constant changing of styles in the early-mid 80s that alienated them to many fans.
[QUOTE][color=SaddleBrown][b]Benross wrote:[/b] [i]They still had top 10 singles and albums and were never out of the spotlight in the 80s![/color][/i][/QUOTE] yes they were out of the spotlight. They didn't do band aid - and it it hadn't been for Geldof's calling them for Live Aid, they'd have been finished. They lost America (around 82-84 and never regained) until after Freddie's death.
Your perception that they could do no wrong is ludicrous. The two career rescuing events for Queen were from outsiders - and not the band themselves: Bob Geldof and Mike Myers (Wayne's World).
but back on track, the song-writing from 1980-1986 was lazy-ass, paint-by-numbers stuff. Stop and think for a minute: If Freddie and Brian had been on their game, songwriting-wise, would Roger and John have been writing so many hits over that time?
Another One Bites The Dust
Radio Ga Ga
I Want To Break Free
One Vision
A Kind Of Magic
Breakthru
six huge hits written by Taylor or Deacon. Prior to that the only A-side hit either had was way back in 75 (You're My Best Friend). Fact is, Freddie and Brian had other distractions - they took their eye off the ball, became lazy, complacent. BTW - most of the Queen songs Taylor/Deacon penned in the 80s were lazily-written - including some of the hits above.
mike hunt · Member since
In my view Queen were a great albums band from 73 to 80, with the absolute peak being 1973 to 1977. After The Game they became more a singles band. Great singles but uneven albums. The Works Is pretty decent but not on the same level as NOTW for example or even Jazz. Innuendo was great. I also like Made In Heaven more than most of the 80's stuff. I think you could make the case they got lazy In the 80's...The songs were there, but they couldn't bother getting them to the next level. They were still good obviously but not great like the 70's.
Misfire. · Member since
Queen never did the Band Aid Single because there were very busy touring the globe and so they were hardly lazy.
Queen were more popular in the 80s than they were in the 70s so they must have been doing something right with there music.
They were even voted best band of the 80s on a TV show in 1989.
Call the bands song writing lazy but at least they were more popular than Led Zeppelin and bands of that nature.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE][color=purple][b]mike hunt wrote:[/b] [i]In my view Queen were a great albums band from 73 to 80, with the absolute peak being 1973 to 1977. After The Game they became more a singles band. Great singles but uneven albums. ..... I think you could make the case they got lazy In the 80's...The songs were there, but they couldn't bother getting them to the next level. [/color][/i][/QUOTE] my point exactly.
[QUOTE][color=SaddleBrown] [b]Benross wrote:[/b][i] Queen never did the Band Aid Single because there were very busy touring the globe[/color][/i][/QUOTE] stop re-writing history. they were not asked to perform on the Band Aid single - [b]Spike Edney[/b] (who played with Queen and The Boomtown Rats) even confirmed as much: [i][color=blue]"Queen were definitely disappointed that they hadn't been asked to appear on Do They Know It's Christmas"[/i][/color]
[QUOTE][color=SaddleBrown] [b]Benross wrote:[/b][i] were very busy touring the globe so they were hardly lazy.[/color][/i][/QUOTE] stop moving the goalposts - the topic is about lazy songwriting - not touring.
[QUOTE][color=SaddleBrown][b]Benross wrote:[/b][i] Queen were more popular in the 80s than they were in the 70s so they must have been doing something right with there music.
They were even voted best band of the 80s on a TV show in 1989. [/color][/i][/QUOTE] polls/votes are a micro-snapshot of one place at one time - it's nothing like the whole (real) world reality. these things change - the same UK polls 5 years later had Nirvana way out in front and Queen nowhere to be seen. Polls and votes mean nothing. Popular does not mean better. A Ford Focus is more popular than a Lamborghini Aventador, but no sane person would ever call it a better car.
[QUOTE][color=SaddleBrown][b]Benross wrote:[/b][i] Call the bands song writing lazy but at least they were more popular than Led Zeppelin and bands of that nature.[/color][/i][/QUOTE] If we're going to use your "sales" criteria as a measurement, then you're wrong again. Zep did not release singles, so you can only compare like-for-like. Zep outsold Queen's total album sales (worldwide) by some distance.
