Queen were massive in the 80s and more popular than in the 70s and that is arguably true so do not let Brenski tell you different.
Queen stole the show at Live Aid and where the best band to attend, and Queen's so called lazy songwriting gave them there biggest hit in the USA
"Another One Bites the Dust" and even Michael Jackson encouraged the band to release it as a single which they did as they had a lot of respect for Michael
in particular Freddie.
Queen would not go back into there brilliant back catalogue and reproduce songs and styles that they already did they had to move on and square up to all the new artists
who were getting the public's interest and i agree with Freddie new styles and sounds were the future of Queen's music so synths and drum machines appeared in songs
"Radio Ga Ga" " Machines" and to be honest i think Freddie was getting bored with the usual formula of Queen so he encouraged the others to try something new.
So to put it in a nut shell Queen were NOT lazy in the 80s they just wanted to be experimental and find new territory to explore its called ambition folks !
Saint Jiub · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]AlbaNo1 wrote:[/b]
Pretty much only ballads and pop made it into the 80s. Was that lazy or was it just that the well had run dry. Or that they simply didn’t stylistically fit into 80s Queen. Was Mr Bad Guy lazy? I’m pretty sure he tried.
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Yes there are better objectives than "lazy".
However it must be more fun (and less imaginative) to trash Freddie and John with the "lazy" label.
Saint Jiub · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]AlbaNo1 wrote:[/b]
Pretty much only ballads and pop made it into the 80s. Was that lazy or was it just that the well had run dry. Or that they simply didn’t stylistically fit into 80s Queen. Was Mr Bad Guy lazy? I’m pretty sure he tried.
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Yes there are better adjectives than "lazy".
However it must be more fun (and less imaginative) to trash Freddie and John with the "lazy" label.
However, resorting to the stale "lazy" label is still better than the bitter hate directed toward Brian, Roger and AL from a certain multi-banned troll.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE][color=blue] [b]AlbaNo1 wrote:[/b]Pretty much only ballads and pop made it into the 80s. Was that lazy or was it just that the well had run dry.[/color] [/QUOTE] very likely that the well had run dry. but, that being the case, why write stuff that really isn't as good as previous output? the writer must be aware that they're coming up with isn't up to their own high standards. i really think that recording in Munich ('80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86 ), New York ('81) played into Freddie's other "scene" distractions. Not exactly conducive to concentration eh?
[QUOTE][color=blue] [b]Saint Jiub wrote:[/b]However it must be more fun (and less imaginative) to trash Freddie and John with the "lazy" label.[/color][/QUOTE]I don't think I've called John lazy. Freddie, was definitely distracted during the early-mid 80s period and his writing suffered. You may think "lazy" a harsh term, but in reality - that's what happened. Once Freddie discovered the Munich scene, the diligent thing to do would be to separate work and pleasure. Go to Munich when not working. Book the band into non-Munich studios to record. Going back to Munich every year between 80 and 86 was a bad move - and the music reflects this.
[QUOTE][color=blue] [b]Saint Jiub wrote:[/b]However, resorting to the stale "lazy" label is still better than the bitter hate directed toward Brian, Roger and AL from a certain multi-banned troll.[/color][/QUOTE] agreed. but i have backed up my arguments. as for the other hate-filled troll you refer to. you couldn't have put it better. it's a shame people don;t address it head-on. this is the guy who repeatedly calls us fascists on one hand and with the other tells us to "fuck off to our own shit site". hypocrite. he also tried to join our "shit site" - irony completely lost on him. at the top of page 2 i said i wouldn't reply directly to him again in this thread...his response? to call me out by name 9 further times. he clearly has no shame, no self respect - perfect troll.
Misfire. · Member since
BRENSKI You are the twat with no self respect coming back on here and no shame after you slagged this site off, and YOU are the perfect troll.
Wind your neck in trying to be pally pally with everyone on here when its obvious you are a bully and a Queen hater.
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Benross wrote:[/b]
BRENSKI You are the twat with no self respect coming back on here and no shame after you slagged this site off, and YOU are the perfect troll.
Wind your neck in trying to be pally pally with everyone on here when its obvious you are a bully and a Queen hater.[/QUOTE]
Benross . quote: "I am a nice guy its Brenski Wizzard and VH who are abusive they been calling me names and acting innocent but there not"
Read that Gerry, then read the your post and try to convince people that you are being honest and accurate.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Benross wrote:[/b]
BRENSKI You are the twat with no self respect coming back on here and no shame after you slagged this site off, and YOU are the perfect troll.
Wind your neck in trying to be pally pally with everyone on here when its obvious you are a bully and a Queen hater.[/QUOTE]
Benross . quote: "I am a nice guy its Brenski Wizzard and VH who are abusive they been calling me names and acting innocent but there not"
Read that Gerry, then read the your post and try to convince people that you are being honest and accurate.[/QUOTE]
you know that, i know that, the world knows it too - he even knows it himself. can't see him being happy until all that's left here for him to talk to are his other 9 personalities.
Misfire. · Member since
Everyone knows you 2 are bullies so i have nothing to prove, so get back over to your crap site parrots.
The Circle of Eidolon · Member since
You, Benross, yet again have entered a deep subject with nothing but shallow understanding.
Your attempted insults carry no weight. Calling two forum members Parrots because they share similar views is no insult.
You, Benross, are are clearly unaware that members of the Psittacoidea family are, along with the Corvus group, the most intelligent of Avian species.
We The Circle of Eidolon understand this, and must point out to you that you represent the least intelligent of Homosapiens.
Take this lesson and learn from it, if you can. The Circle of Eidolon has spoken. There is no argument.
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
"Take this lesson and learn from it"? At best, he'll think you called him a homo...
The Circle of Eidolon · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
"Take this lesson and learn from it"? At best, he'll think you called him a homo...[/QUOTE]
The Circle of Eidolon is amused by this comment.
Misfire. · Member since
Thomasquinn you are a prat so no excuse for your comment we understand you are thick.
Circle of Eidolon You are a pathetic troll and an attention seeking virus on here - go away.
You are all hypocrites moaning about trolls then yous two come on here ruining yet another thread and been morons - grow up.
The Circle of Eidolon · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Benross wrote:[/b]
Circle of Eidolon You are a pathetic troll and an attention seeking virus on here - go away. . . . . . . . . grow up.[/QUOTE]
We The Circle of Eidolon do not go away, we are not led by your uneducated views and miss guided commands.
You Benross have told The Circle of Eidolon to grow up. We do not feel the need to become any taller than we are, there for we will not grow up. However we will allow our minds to be broadened we will follow new paths from which we may learn, and we do not feel the need to name call those with more, or in your case less, intelligence than we possess.
You have much to learn. We are here and anywhere else we wish to be. Because of your previous actions you are here with nothing to say and no option to increase your audience.
Your position in life is largely a result of your actions. As is your position here.
Many would learn from this, you choose not to.
The Circle of Eidolon has spoken, there is no argument.
Misfire. · Member since
@Circle of Eiedolon Stuff your crap comments you are void end off
oystermouth1971 · Member since
Wouldn’t say they were ‘lazy’ but there is an argument to say they were going through the motions (at least in the studio) a bit. Great tracks rather than great albums.
When the chips were really down, they produced Innuendo which was *so* much better than any of the ‘80s dilettantish albums imo.