I'm a huge fan of Dream Theater and Portnoy, but comparing him with Roger...
It's maybe the same competition but "different weight category", like in box...
I thought Roger's drumming on 46664 was pretty bad... And I'm not sure, but he seemed to mess up during WE WILL ROCK YOU, on the begining of the second solo- but maybe it's just me...
Jingles>>
Yes, of course we'll call roger a "sell out"...he's selling he's music, isn't he? just like any other musician. What's your issue?!
inu-liger · Member since
I thought this was Roger's best performance on drums since...for a long time, in my opinion.
Definitely the best post-Freddie Queen concert since the tribute concert!
Togg · Member since
I have been reading this board for a while now, and I have to say that it does suffer from idiots posting comments about things they clearly know very little about.
I have played in a band for nearly 23 years drums, guitar and vocals, and as anybody knows that plays drums it looks very easy but in fact is very difficult to do right.
Roger has always been (and still is) one of the most techically (in terms of timing) skilled drummers around.
Watch him closely and you will see that in fact his skill is not about how fast or how powerful, it is all about timing and what is right for the song.
During 46664 he displayed his usual skill and I would hazard a guess that pretty well any professional drummer watching would agree he can still cut it with the best of them.
The comment about missing beats etc in this and the Queens jubilee concert is as usual mis-informed, as in fact at the Queens Jubilee concert if anyone remembers the osund on stage was so bad at points that he and other artists had to play without much idea of what was happening around them from other musicans, see Brians comments after the show.
Try sitting behind a drum kit with a row of AC30's in front of you and see how much you hear, they are bloody loud and believe me if you don't have good on stage foldback you just have to guess if you are in time or not.
If you remember the feed from Brian at the Queens Jubilee went down and Roger and the band had to practically play by just watching Brian on a moniter.
Lets try to think about things before we slag people off, these people are professionals and they do the job better than any of you could even dream of.
inu-liger · Member since
Agreed; the sound was terrible on recordings from the PATP performance
The Real Wizard · Member since
"As for his drumming at the 46664 concert, it was quite good - Show Must Go On was a great performace as was 'The Call' and 'Invincibe Hope'. There weren't any many mistakes during the Queen medley either so i'm sure people are just being over critical."
The Queen segments were great. But as I said before, it's because he knows those songs, and they're in simple 3/4 and 4/4 time. Toss The Feathers had time changes, and Roger clearly had no clue what he was doing for half of the song.
MercuryArts · Member since
Guirat Hero: "It's just like at the FM tribute concert during Innuendo, Rog missed a very important choked cymbal, which was probably due to a lack of practice."
WHAT!!?? I know the exact moment your referring to during the FIRST & ONLY performance of Innuendo. He did have a minor mis-cue. But you know what? It didn't matter. Unless you knew the song inside and out it was hardly noticeable. Furthermore, being a drummer for the last 16 years, and a guitarist for 5 year longer than that it was reassuring that even a professional can make a mistake. He's only human. Believe me, this wasn't from lack of praticing. It was from lack of performing, that song! Like I said, it was the first & only time it was ever performed. Cut the man some slack. I hate to say it, but that one little piece of nit-picking just discredited your entire post as far as I'm concerned.
Togg · Member since
"The Queen segments were great. But as I said before, it's because he knows those songs, and they're in simple 3/4 and 4/4 time. Toss The Feathers had time changes, and Roger clearly had no clue what he was doing for half of the song."
So you know a lot about music then! check out a few of the song books Queen have published over the years, you might be a little surprised at some of the time signitures.
And as for "he missed a very important cymbal choke" well he Co/wrote the bloody song so I'm guessing he can play it any way he wants 'live'.
By the way Guitar hero, how many albums have you played on? sold out many stadiums recently?
joep the rocker · Member since
'By the way Guitar hero, how many albums have you played on? sold out many stadiums recently?'
You dont have to have sold out any stadiums to realize Rogers drumming was crappy. Just look at his performance with the corrs. You see him thinking: " When is the break.....dammit gotta focus...1.2...3...4....he, that corr-drummer is good looking..2..3..4...hell missed the break...well i'll get the next one right...oh shit..missed it again....well two breaks so close to each other is asking for problems....2...3....4.! gotta look cool...gotta look cool...2...3...4."
Hank H. · Member since
"It was blatantly obvious that Roger didn't look comfortable on his kit. His singing is another story, of course. His performance on "Say It's Not True" was a definite highlight of the day, and is certainly one of his best tracks in recent years."
I totally agree.
During Toss the Feathers he looked completely helpless and unprepared. I would like to know why the Corrs wanted him to join in, since he was redundant.
Mr.Jingles · Member since
Don't blame Roger for not playing at his best next to that chick from the Corrs.
When you have such a hot chick sitting next to you, it's hard to concentrate on doing something else... especially when she's "bouncing".
NoOneButYou1975 · Member since
When you have such a hot chick sitting next to you, it's hard to concentrate on doing something else... especially when she's "bouncing".
hmm bounce
the HEATMAN · Member since
maybe roger have a problem of salud.
Lester Burnham · Member since
That's probably it.
Tommy · Member since
I saw the concert, and I think Roger was a bit out of shape. But hey, he's 54 and has lived a hard life on the road for about 25 of those 54 years.
And by the way, it was'nt that bad, try to name someone who's never done a bad performance.
Let's stop talking crap about Roger, and talk about him as one of the best drummers in the game for 1/4 century
and a writer of great, timeless music.
YOU ROCK ROGER!
Mr Mercury · Member since
"A drummer can't be judged by the size of his drums. John Bonham is the perfect example"
And Simon Kirke from Free
As for Rogers playing on TTF, from what I saw thanks to a certain Corrs site, I thought it was alright.