Big Bam, my old china.
"The US gov't is run by people, therfore it can never be perfect."
I never said the US was perfect, but I do expect people to learn from past "mistakes," not to keep repeating them.
"I don't see however, what your last comments on mandella etc have anything to do with the current situation."
My comments are a response to wreckage's attempts to portray America as "under threat," thus excusing its support for fascism around the world. They appeared before his post and not after, for some reason.
Saffron Caribou · Member since
I agree with Holly completetly. Excellent post.
FairyQueen · Member since
Do your hw....America did support Iraq because it was the lesser of two evils compared to Kuwait...Iraq at that time was the enemy of our enemy...so...you know how history went from there...the country didn't realize even thought he was the lesser of the two evils...he was still evil...
Holly2003 · Member since
"Do your hw....America did support Iraq because it was the lesser of two evils compared to Kuwait"
Hilarious.
Saffron Caribou · Member since
Well Matt I'm thinking about getting a HUGE tattoo of a pair of lips on my ass, just in case WW3 happens you know.
MexQueenFM · Member since
"getting a HUGE tattoo of a pair of lips on my ass"
*coughing* what?!?! lips?!?! but why a tattoo only?
did that sound perverted? lol
FairyQueen · Member since
It's so easy for you to say we could have just gone in there and assassinated them...look at the law for a second and realize we can't assassinate people from other countries...and if we did...the whole world would be up our ass.. bitching..why did we do that for..and people saying "Let's talk it over and see nothing get done for the next 10 billion years"..The war certainly wasn't made up...the economy started going down the crapper while Clinton was president...I'm not saying Clinton was a bad president but that was a fact..look it up..and lets see...oh everyone forgot about Sept.11....that couldn't have affected the economy now would it..I wonder???hmmm....gee whiz..this is a hard one...*looks over in the distance*..are those Iraqi people waving the American and British flag or is it my imagination? Must be because no one sees that...no duh not everyone in Iraq likes what we did.. mainly Sadaams loyalists and others...people don't see that things take time...everyone these days are too stubborn...I'm not saying it's not patriotic to not support the war..it's patriotic if you don't support and patriotic if you do...just remember how many people died for you...Remember do your hw folks...helps out with the classwork later...that's my opinion...I know a lot of you are gonna bash it...but I don't care....cause' it's my belief just like you have one...
Saffron Caribou · Member since
Mex? Perverted? No no no!
You are the most innocent male on this *coughbullshitcough* board!
I have to get a tattoo coz its impossible to kiss my own ass!
Want to get matching lip tattoos Matt? lol :-P
MexQueenFM · Member since
Well, you guys can get the tattoos, i'll provide the lips for your tattoo Marie ;)
just tell me when, and send for the airplane ticket :)
Holly2003 · Member since
"Remember do your hw folks"
Every time you say that I'm gonna remind you that you didn't know the difference between Iran & Kuwait.
Saffron Caribou · Member since
FairyQueen you have the right to express your opinion as much as you have to respect others.
This war wasn't supposed to be about Sept. 11/01. The War in Iraq was a war with other motives around Iraq, and the supposed Weapons of Mass Destruction that haven't been found yet, if they exist. Now that Saddam has been captured, he says that there isn't any Weapons of Mass Destruction.
After what happened on 9/11 (which is a sad moment in history no matter what), the focus was to hunt for Bin Laden. Now that the CIA, the First World governments haven't found him yet, and yes the US economy has dwindled by the terrorist attack. The US and UK, needed to pick an enemy to make a war. Because, and unfortunatetly, war does boost up the economy. However, while people go to war (because they registered, no one forced them to), the shift sways to the war, and completetly ignores the main concerns of the country (i.e. US) such as improving education, decreasing crime, health care, and other important issues. I wouldn't vote for a president so he or she could invade another country in order to "destroy" a tyrant or "democritise" a country. It's absurd. If this war was truly, and purely done for economic reasons, such as oil, and to improve the US economy it's shady, pathetic, and wrong! Still, this is another purpose for Globalisation, the utter "Americanisation" of the world.
You might think, "Oh but what about Iraq, Saddam being a threat to my country". That's hogwash IMO. We haven't heard from Saddam since the Gulf War. When the CIA couldnt find Bin Laden, the US and UK government needed a new bone to pick, and they chose Saddam. Some say that Saddam was picked because of Bush and his motive to finish what Bush Snr started, or the infamous, and still not proven (as far as I know) that Saddam was plotting to kill Bush Snr.
Remember this, the US were the ones that placed Saddam in power back in the 70's, and the ones that gave Saddam chemical weapons to use against Iran.
Also remember that the CIA trained Bin Laden during the Afghanistan conflict in the early 80's.
This just proves how futile the US's foreign policies are.
Saffron Caribou · Member since
Feck the plane ticket Mex! Sheesh! :-P
FairyQueen · Member since
I agree with you on what we did with Sadaam in the past..I know that's true....but I explained before why we did it(all about kuwait..lesser evils bigger evils and all that jazz) and should learn from past mistakes...I'm not saying your're wrong...I'm saying I know and that's why pencils have erasers...of course he's been quiet but...you should have seen the pics from when he killed 10000 kurds..I almost puked when I saw all those mass graves..and I know we made a mistake by leaving them there...well...we got back at saddaam and brought his butt down...we could have went into Iraq on human rights alone..he did rape many women..and also considering killing the widows of the men he killed when they went to Saddaam...he was just a disgusting man...now he's a disgusting bum...but your facts about what happened in the past are true...
Saffron Caribou · Member since
FairyQueen you are right about the Kurds, Saddam was a mass murderer. I never said he wasn't. However, the whole war wasn't to get Saddam but it was to uncover these weapons that are nowhere to be found. Saddam has done some atrocities, and the Iraqui people seem (I say seem, because I don't know how they live nor I know whats really going on there. I don't rely my views towards US newscasts who are biased) to have suffered a lot. I would never forgive a mass murderer no matter what their motives were.
I just don't agree with the motives of the war. Why should the US have to stick their noses into every problem in every single country in this world?! Doesn't the US have their own problems?! Why is the crime rate so high in the US? Why is education so mediocre in the US? Why is there a high unemployment rate?; amognst other problems. Should the US government emphasise in making their country a good, heathly, and well educated country? They shouldnt waste their time in being a Messiah imo.