"Those who buy illegal stuff (or download it) aren't true music fans"
LOL, so I guess you've never downloaded one single track. Or listened to any of the Queen demo's, etc.
I'll sit in the corner with the the non-real music fans because I download non-available bootlegs. Fuck me.
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I wasn't talking about bootlegs, about stuff you can't buy in the shops!!! I was talking ONLY about copies (mp3 or illegal, cheap CD- whatever) of OFFICIALLY RELEASED MATERIAL
And I won't fuck you- you're not my type...
I wasn't talking about bootlegs, about stuff you can't buy in the shops!!! I was talking ONLY about copies (mp3 or illegal, cheap CD- whatever) of OFFICIALLY RELEASED MATERIAL
And I won't fuck you- you're not my type...
People download music because it's easy to download. When you download music to your own computer in your own home you just don't feel like stealing, do you?
But mp3s never replace the real CD. When I first had Audiogalaxy I downloaded endless amounts of music which I never really listened to and so I gave it up. But I still buy CDs (and music DVDs) on a regular basis. What I don't buy are copy controlled CDs because I don't want to be an honest customer being treated like a potential criminal.
But mp3s never replace the real CD. When I first had Audiogalaxy I downloaded endless amounts of music which I never really listened to and so I gave it up. But I still buy CDs (and music DVDs) on a regular basis. What I don't buy are copy controlled CDs because I don't want to be an honest customer being treated like a potential criminal.
The world is fucked!There's some people out there making a living by doing something more stressful and important than entertaining(music is my life,but come on).Everything is reversed,I know it's not easy becoming a rock star(well lately i don't know,listen to the new 'genre' of rock and you'll notice it),but hey,do there job compare's itself with,for instance,accouting?!Society would rather spend millions buying cd's than helping their fellow man. Face facts that's how the world is today. Sad I know but that's the way it is.Well,it would be selfish for people who make this kind of money not to give to charity, but they do...
Some don't, but most do
Alot of them do it becasue of their public image.But then again there are alot of them that do it out of the goodness of their "mind".... (The heart has nothing to do with sympathy.)
I probably don't agree with how today's system works,but hey it's not unfair,that's the way it works,right!
Some don't, but most do
Alot of them do it becasue of their public image.But then again there are alot of them that do it out of the goodness of their "mind".... (The heart has nothing to do with sympathy.)
I probably don't agree with how today's system works,but hey it's not unfair,that's the way it works,right!
Bootlegs are just as illegal as CD-rs.
You are stealing off the artist no matter whether its officially released or not. You're black and white picture just don't work.
You are stealing off the artist no matter whether its officially released or not. You're black and white picture just don't work.
You're right
"I agree,these artists and movie makers are all supposed to do this all for free?"
if they actually love doing it then they could. if they're in it just for the money then what's the point?
"*I don't have money*
...so I steal, right?
F**k it
Those who buy illegal stuff (or download it) aren't true music fans; it's just f**ckin theft, that's what it is...
Normal price of CD in HMV is let's say 16.99? But wait till bloody sale and you'll buy "hot Space" for example for £5. It's not much, is it?! Go to second hand shop, and with a bit of luck you'll pay even less!!!
That's a pretty lame excuse IMO..."
what if you don't even have that much...?
if they actually love doing it then they could. if they're in it just for the money then what's the point?
"*I don't have money*
...so I steal, right?
F**k it
Those who buy illegal stuff (or download it) aren't true music fans; it's just f**ckin theft, that's what it is...
Normal price of CD in HMV is let's say 16.99? But wait till bloody sale and you'll buy "hot Space" for example for £5. It's not much, is it?! Go to second hand shop, and with a bit of luck you'll pay even less!!!
That's a pretty lame excuse IMO..."
what if you don't even have that much...?
"what if you don't even have that much...?"
Ah, delayed gratification, or is entitlement inherent in this next generation?
Ah, delayed gratification, or is entitlement inherent in this next generation?
I guess that because my car was unjustly and severly damaged by a runaway spare tire, I am entitled to steal a new car of my choosing because I do not want to have to pay a second car payment. :)
That being said ...
Bullwinkle's situational morality for the entertainment industry (ratings from 1 - guilt-free, to 5 - five finger discount, and beyond ...):
1 - Downloading / trading of unreleased music (see my sig)
2 - Downloading / trading of out of print songs / albums (musical industry could easily sell these item to reduce downloading but is too lazy)
3 - Downloading / trading of bonus tracks. I rarely do this, but my situational ethics says that the music industry re-selling an album again for a few bonus songs borders on thievery as well (I have so far resisted buying or downloading the new Wembley CD with 4 bonus tracks).
3 - bootlegging for profit. Musicians could stop this by releasing the music (like Pearl Jam). Personally, I love bootleg CD's as I have greatly enriched my Queen collection this way. I have no problem with purchasing bootlegs and I have no problems with music bootleggers (who only supply what the record industry is too lazy to provide).
4 - Downloading / trading of overpriced imports. I rarely do this (Queen Rocks video), but when the price is double that of a domestic release I do not feel I am getting value when I purchase an import.
4 - downloading a song because the rest of the album or the song itself is crap. I did download the Robbie William's version of We Are The Champions, but I deleted it the same day I downloaded it.
5 - occasional downloading (or copying from a friend) of whole albums that are domestically available. I have never downloaded whole albums, but I have taped albums from friends (does doing this over 15 years ago in my youth make it OK??? LOL). Oops, I did trade for a VHS copy of the Made in Heaven videos a few years ago after I had bought (and returned) a defective video at Tower Records. Shame on me.
666 - Downloading commercially available stuff more often than buying.
That being said ...
Bullwinkle's situational morality for the entertainment industry (ratings from 1 - guilt-free, to 5 - five finger discount, and beyond ...):
1 - Downloading / trading of unreleased music (see my sig)
2 - Downloading / trading of out of print songs / albums (musical industry could easily sell these item to reduce downloading but is too lazy)
3 - Downloading / trading of bonus tracks. I rarely do this, but my situational ethics says that the music industry re-selling an album again for a few bonus songs borders on thievery as well (I have so far resisted buying or downloading the new Wembley CD with 4 bonus tracks).
3 - bootlegging for profit. Musicians could stop this by releasing the music (like Pearl Jam). Personally, I love bootleg CD's as I have greatly enriched my Queen collection this way. I have no problem with purchasing bootlegs and I have no problems with music bootleggers (who only supply what the record industry is too lazy to provide).
4 - Downloading / trading of overpriced imports. I rarely do this (Queen Rocks video), but when the price is double that of a domestic release I do not feel I am getting value when I purchase an import.
4 - downloading a song because the rest of the album or the song itself is crap. I did download the Robbie William's version of We Are The Champions, but I deleted it the same day I downloaded it.
5 - occasional downloading (or copying from a friend) of whole albums that are domestically available. I have never downloaded whole albums, but I have taped albums from friends (does doing this over 15 years ago in my youth make it OK??? LOL). Oops, I did trade for a VHS copy of the Made in Heaven videos a few years ago after I had bought (and returned) a defective video at Tower Records. Shame on me.
666 - Downloading commercially available stuff more often than buying.
"Ah, delayed gratification, or is entitlement inherent in this next generation?"
Eh?? Zeni?? - You sound sooo old ... LOL
My mom just got a birthday card yesterday for her 65th birthday (from her younger cousin). It stated:
On your 65th birthday you are now entitled to say: "In my day ..."
Eh?? Zeni?? - You sound sooo old ... LOL
My mom just got a birthday card yesterday for her 65th birthday (from her younger cousin). It stated:
On your 65th birthday you are now entitled to say: "In my day ..."
Back in the 70s and 80s record companies executives thought that because a lot of people recorded songs from the radio or made copies from a friend's vinyl or casette, a huge crisis was going to come upon the record industry.
So they've been pretty much whining since then.
I agree in a lot of terms that downloading is wrong. But so is charging 16 dollars for a CD that costs less than a dollar to make.
So they've been pretty much whining since then.
I agree in a lot of terms that downloading is wrong. But so is charging 16 dollars for a CD that costs less than a dollar to make.
"what if you don't even have that much...?"
Then you should be working now, instead of posting useless messages on a notice board! Get yourself a job!
Btw, I only buy Queenrelated stuff. I download everything else. I plea (sp?) guilty. I do have principles, but I hardly ever use them, unless I can benefit from it.
Then you should be working now, instead of posting useless messages on a notice board! Get yourself a job!
Btw, I only buy Queenrelated stuff. I download everything else. I plea (sp?) guilty. I do have principles, but I hardly ever use them, unless I can benefit from it.
I make a point of only downloading songs that have been released in aid of a charity. Band Aid, Children in Need, Bo Rhap 1991 etc.
That way I can be assured that the artist in question is not missing out on his/her paycheck.
fatty.
That way I can be assured that the artist in question is not missing out on his/her paycheck.
fatty.
"I agree in a lot of terms that downloading is wrong. But so is charging 16 dollars for a CD that costs less than a dollar to make."
You don't pay for the CD, you pay for the music. You can argue the same about books, it doesn't cost $20 to print a book, but you don't buy a book for the pages, do you?
You don't pay for the CD, you pay for the music. You can argue the same about books, it doesn't cost $20 to print a book, but you don't buy a book for the pages, do you?
<< You don't pay for the CD, you pay for the music. You can argue the same about books, it doesn't cost $20 to print a book, but you don't buy a book for the pages, do you? >>
I'm talking about every single aspect involved in the production of the CD. Obviously that includes music too.