illegal copying

Then you should be working now, instead of posting useless messages on a notice board! Get yourself a job!

there are a few people on this board that are not of legal age to work so take in consideration..

"I'm talking about every single aspect involved in the production of the CD. Obviously that includes music too."

Aha...

Well, do you really think artists would continue to make music if they just covered costs and didn't gain anything\gain very little?

<< Well, do you really think artists would continue to make music if they just covered costs and didn't gain anything\gain very little? >> If CD prices went down (which in fact some record companies and stores are already doing), people would be buying more music. It's the fair thing to pay for the music you're listening to, but with high prices who wants to buy music when you can download it instead. To me record companies shouldn't charge more than 10 dollars for one single CD.

"It's the fair thing to pay for the music you're listening to, but with high prices who wants to buy music when you can download it instead.
To me record companies shouldn't charge more than 10 dollars for one single CD."

Come on, even if each CD would cost $3 some people would still download - "why pay when you can get it for free?".

I knew I shouldn't have initiated this topic >sigh<

I agree that new cds are WAY overpriced. But I have to say here that I charge $100 to do a wedding. Some people might think that is a lot but when you consider the hours of practicing I have spent to get good enough to play at a wedding, not so bad. ON the other hand, I usually don't buy new cds as I said earlier. Hey I'm a starving musician! Plus I'm underage and not allowed to have a non musical job because my dad says it will take away from my ppractice time.

<<"what if you don't even have that much...?" Then you should be working now, instead of posting useless messages on a notice board! Get yourself a job!>> I'M ONLY 13!!!!!! I'VE ALREADY SAID THAT!!!!!!!

<< Come on, even if each CD would cost $3 some people would still download - "why pay when you can get it for free?". >> My point is that neither people who constantly download songs, nor the record industry are being fair.

<<"what if you don't even have that much...?" Then you should be working now, instead of posting useless messages on a notice board! Get yourself a job!>> I'M ONLY 13!!!!!! I'VE ALREADY SAID THAT!!!!!!! i knew that Fallen the one who said "Then you should be working now, instead of posting useless messages on a notice board! Get yourself a job!>>" obviously didnt read all the facts...

How is it that an audio cassette costs about the same to make as a CD, but CD's cost 70% more?

Music industry collusion (price fixing).

The Music industry has already lost a class action lawsuit in the USA ...

I was bored so I read some more of this. I just want to say that I pretty much agree with everything Bullwinkle has said. I have stated some very strong opinions, but just to make one thing clear: I do think that if you like something you hear and it's available for purchase, you should pay for it if you can. I think there are fundamental flaws in the laws regarding this stuff in terms of royalties and who owns stuff. Like it or not, there are strong arguments either way, it's not cut and dry.. such as my argument about used CDs ;)

I also wanted to point out that I was referring to Bullwinkle's signature, not Stone Cold Crazy.. I made a mistake.

I see both sides and agree with points on both sides. I usually download a couple songs that haven't been radio played yet, from a new album to see if I will like it, then I purchase the album if I deem it is worth buying. I am guilty I guess but my purpose in downloading is not to get out of paying for something, if that makes me any better of a person ;). I will also download an old song or two if I am unable to find it in the store.

New here btw. Hi to everyone.

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"May sound crueal, but... wait than..."

ha! you don't know me very well... i can't wait even 1 minutes for anything! let alone 2 years so i can get a job! and i hardly ever get money any other time, and if i do, it's barely half of what i need to get a cd. and i can't even find most of the music that i want to buy, so downloading is my only other choice. you don't go to a lot of stores that have a HIM cd or a Dimmu Borgir cd or a Lillix cd or a Bowling For Soup cd.