WHY IS WEMBLEY GIG SO OVERRATED...?

Freddie's voice during the show in Montreal (We Will Rock You DVD) was great. Better than in Wembley '86. But if you look at all aspects, Wembley was the perfect concert.

Well .. to add my opinion.. I think the TV/DVD of the Wembley show is great... I was there and love having something to remember the show by.

Can I just make a point here, this is all about ones personal perception of an event.

No matter who you are musician or ordinary fan, it's still just your perception. Even the members of the band will have different perceptions of the day, many is the time a band member will come off stage and vent their anger at something others may not have been aware of.

So to make a statement that 'It was not the best or The best show' is just your view, musician or fan, I think it virtually impossible to calculate which show is better than another do to the vast amout of elements that make up a performance.

And whether you have listened to all tapes of the tour or been to each show or for that matter played in each show, how do you calculate which one was better? OK so the guitar string broke, or the voice cracked, does that wipe out the rest of the performance, no, it is a single event that just addes to a list of elements.

The views in this thread are just personal opinions and nobody can make a statement of fact, sure you can list your perception of mistakes, but that's all it is, your perception.

Yeah calm down.
Is it worth it to fight about this? Let everyone say their point of view and respect other's and then it's all fine.

<< OK so the guitar string broke, or the voice cracked, does that wipe out the rest of the performance, no, it is a single event that just addes to a list of elements.>> Well, that's more than cracked voice few times or sth like that.. More of a band being too tied and nervous- MORE than even only 24 hours earlier... about being not so solid as a unit- and that's what IMO happened... But I agree with you- it is all about perception. Fine. That actually was the idea- starting point; that's my statement on this, what's yours... And some ppl just went bananas... I can agree with deacon fan saying that maybe it wasn't put the right way, should be rephrased... I can agree with that... Still- sometimes I think one's not allowed to have a critical opinion on this board....

No I think to discuss something from the standpoint of a critic is fine and what these boards should be about, I just get amused when I see posts that say I'm a musicain and this concert was worse than that one, if that's the case and your speaking from the standpoint of a musician then surely it's the performance as a whole that gets judged and not a few small elements, the whole thing should be viewed the sound, the lights, the individual musicians the atmosphere etc, all of which makes up in my opinion to many elements to accurately state one was better than another.

I think the reason Wembley is so highly rated is that it was the natural highpoint to a triumphant tour that was defined by class. Everything ran like a well oiled machine, and the natural pinnacle of a tour of this magnitude would be the homecoming concert, especialy when it's a such a legendary place as Wembley Stadium. I think it's the glorious, almost triumphant circumstances that surround the Wembley shows that make them so highly rated. So it's not necessarily the technical merits of the show itself, it's the moment, the drama of it. That's why it was the one that was filmed. When I watch the DVD I thoroughly enjoy it, not so much because of the performances (although they are fantastic), I mostly enjoy putting the concert in the context of '86, with Queen full of confidence again after Live Aid and the Magic album. I'm sure there were many more technically superb shows on the Magic Tour, but being that it was Wembley, that it was home, makes it so special. Mick Jagger was even there!

Ditto

MY opinion:playing live with the band i must say that if the audience is completely with you the concert looks prettier. In London for Queen it was like playing in their courtyard with friends and relatives. In Budapest the gig was fantastic (that's sure) but the audience wasn't in my opinion as warm as in London. Take for example i want to break free...

but de gustibus non disputandum est.

last thing: wembley is not underrated at all according to me!!!

"Freddie's voice during the show in Montreal (We Will Rock You DVD) was great. Better than in Wembley '86. But if you look at all aspects, Wembley was the perfect concert."

Well, if all you can compare Wembley's second night to is Montreal 81, of course Wembley will seem better. The atmosphere was far better.

"I just get amused when I see posts that say I'm a musicain and this concert was worse than that one"

What amuses you about it? The fact that there are musicians out there who can actually critique a performance, rather than just say "it's Queen, therefore it is perfect" ??

"the whole thing should be viewed the sound, the lights, the individual musicians the atmosphere etc, all of which makes up in my opinion to many elements to accurately state one was better than another."

That's correct, but this topic was purely about the performance, and nothing else. Why doesn't anyone here understand that?

"Still- sometimes I think one's not allowed to have a critical opinion on this board...."

With all the Stepfords here, you're right. It's almost impossible.

If so... WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE PERFORMANCE THEN?? IMO though Wembley wasn't perhaps Queen's best performance ever, but still a great one, and arguably to a lot of people one of their best. The only thing I'd have to say was wrong, was noticing that Freddie sang a little bit off key during the 'I Want To Brak Free' performance (especially during the << I want to break free from your lies >> part). Still it seems like some people can't understand that despite his huge talent and amazing voice, Freddie was still human and he could also make mistakes. Anyways, I noticed that during other performances Freddie's voice sounded slightly better, but during Wembley it was still great though not at its best. Remember that a voice like Freddie's is very delicate, and it can't always be at its best shape. So don't blame Freddie for not giving the best of himself because we all know that this man gave himself 100% to the audience on each performance. Each one is entitled to their opinions, but some people definitely cross the line. Like those who called Queen's performance at 46664 pathetic. That's why I question why some people here still call themselves Queen fans.

Aren't I just a stepford...

When I first watched Wembley (I heard a few songs mp3 and went out to buy it as soon as the store in my little town had some in stock), I was really into Freddie's feminine falsetto voice... therefore wasn't too pleased with the concert, although it was the first Queen concert I watched. I honestly thought that he lost his high pitch during the 80s! (I didn't have later albums then.)

Now, when I look back, I am amazed at how much my own musical preference can change my perception. (Now I am into heavier songs of Queen..) I don't think Freddie's voice was the best in Wembley, either. (Obviously, we all know how perfect, beautiful and godly his voice can get.) Yet, his showmanship was wonderful, and the audience was just really enthusiastic! The performance art is something that both the performer and the audience create. In that aspect, Wembley was a great show.

Still, I am somewhat, or, very unsatisfied. My stupid local store has no other official concert DVDs or VHSs, and I am not of age to order online... (and considering where I live, the mailing price will exceed the actual price.) It drives me nuts to read about all those wonderful concerts at all those different places!!! (gargles) Hell, I would even go for the supposedly worst concert in Japan!

I think Queen should care more about releasing more of the previously bootleg stuff officially. People like me down in this non-Queen area thirst for enough hype for those concerts to reach everywhere.

I love the concert. It was just a matter of the right people and the right time and some really beautiful moments.
And that's what it was, to me anyway...A beautiful moment and beautiful people, all coming together to make beautiful music, unselfishly, for the itching ears of their beautiful fans. ;)

Love and I want that yellow jacket,
Mrs. G

Ooooh. I want that yellow jacket too....


OH Love the concert BTW!!

Jingles - you have no right to an opinion because you are not a musician. LOL