The Passion Of The Christ

"This whole 'religion' thing is only dividing us all instead of bringimg peace and happiness... Don't you think there's something wrong here...?"

Thanks for your efforts, Fenderek. But here is not the place to find many level-headed and sane people who want to discuss this with you. And you know what? The real world isn't too much different. Be happy you're one of the smart ones. Most religious people have left their intelligence at church (in the collection plate?).

"The word 'believe' doesn't reuquire any kind of proving."

Correct, but science will cut you to shreds for that one.

"That was one big long guilt-trip."

I didn't have to see the film to know that would be the underlying message. :)

Oopsie, seems as though I have entered the topic.

Well, the movie is #1 in the U.S. now.

The whole movie should have been about Jesus' entire life, his philosophy, his thoughts.

Jesus said that the main commandment was to love and respect each other, and that's far more valuable to learn than all the pain and suffering that he went through the last 12 hours of his life.

Whether you're christian or not you can't deny that there's a very important lesson to be learned from what he taught. Too bad that so many so called "christians" completely misunderstood Jesus point of view, and instead they killed and spread hatred towards non-christians and people who did not wish to convert to christianity.

I really wanna see the movie, but it's been sold out, i'll try again this weekend

*awaits smartass comment from Bullwinkle and 300-year-old Catholic lesson from Krowa*

Believe it or not, I actually chuckled when I read this. :-)

By the way, great movie. It is not a movie that is to entertain us, but rather something that we are to experience. Whether you are a Christian or not, this film shows believers and non-believers what are the fundamental points of the Christian faith - love and sacrifice.

"Jesus said that the main commandment was to love and respect each other, and that's far more valuable to learn than all the pain and suffering that he went through the last 12 hours of his life."

Agreed.

"Whether you're christian or not you can't deny that there's a very important lesson to be learned from what he taught. Too bad that so many so called "christians" completely misunderstood Jesus point of view, and instead they killed and spread hatred towards non-christians and people who did not wish to convert to christianity."

Right on. From what I've heard, this movie seems to be theologically correct, even according to the real right-wing philosophers and theologans.

Good post, Jingles.

"Whether you are a Christian or not, this film shows believers and non-believers what are the fundamental points of the Christian faith - love and sacrifice."

I agree with "love", but could you elaborate on the "sacrifice" aspect? It really depends on what branch of Christian faith you're talking about... there are so many divisions, and so many interpretations of that.

"Correct, but science will cut you to shreds for that one."

There's nothing I can do about it. Scholars will always try to disprove things that were written in the bible such as miracles, but I never saw anyone who believes in God actually stops believing after they published their researches... You see, their arguements don't affect people's beliefs, they only make the atheists' comments "stronger", and I don't really care =)

You know, it is not necessary that science contradict or dispell Christian beliefs.

Sure, there are some people that would choose to interpret the Bible in a very literal way, and here, science can have a field day. But others might look at the existential truth of the Bible or Jesus' teachings, and here, science is useless. There are many things we all believe in that science can never fully measure (love, politics, etc).

"I agree with "love", but could you elaborate on the "sacrifice" aspect? It really depends on what branch of Christian faith you're talking about... there are so many divisions, and so many interpretations of that."

Well, in the gospels, Christ's crusifixion is an obvious sacrifce of himself. I do not know about other Christian divisions, but as a Roman Catholic, I can say that sacrificing your own inner desires, which may at times be immoral, for the common good of the community. A very basic example of this would be not stealing. Although stealing may provide us with instant gratification, it is obviously immoral and not good for the entire community.

I'm sorry to diappoint Guitar Hero, but I don't really have much to say, and any anti-religion rants I might have really do not have much to do with to do with Mel Gibson or the movie.

Plus I did not find Guitar Hero's comments to be very controversial.

Plus I'm tired ...

Well, It appears I will be going to see this movie tomorrow night and I don't have to pay! :D

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As I don't believe in God, I somehow prefer Monty Python's excellent and superb Life Of Brian than this kind of movies...

"I can say that sacrificing your own inner desires, which may at times be immoral, for the common good of the community. A very basic example of this would be not stealing. Although stealing may provide us with instant gratification, it is obviously immoral and not good for the entire community."

Well, of course... but from a more general point of view, it all comes down the person, and what they consider to be moral or immoral.

In terms of stealing in specific, you don't need religion to tell you it's wrong. To most people it's rather common sense. :) That's more of a common courtesy and conscience thing than a religious thing.

It always worried me that people needed to be threatened with eternal burning in hell in order for them to be good.
Don't get religeon.