Can't understand how someone's death could save me... Wouldn't it be enough to just say- you're saved...?
And did we understand anything from this 'example'...? Not really- this planet is becoming a big 'shithole' and we're killing or abusing each other, also in the name of this 'example'. This whole 'religion' thing is only dividing us all instead of bringimg peace and happiness... Don't you think there's something wrong here...?
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"If you've got to disprove the existence of God to be an athesist, haven't you got to prove the existence of God to be a believer?"
The word 'believe' doesn't reuquire any kind of proving.
The word 'believe' doesn't reuquire any kind of proving.
I thought that the movie was surprisingly good. I thought that it would suck, but it didn't. So many people at my school are saying like they don't even know how to comment on it and it brought them to tears, and that everyone in their theater was crying. when I went to see it, the theater was dead silent. And even though none of it was in english for the most part you could tell what they were saying anyway. The beating was terrible I must admit, they make it look so real it's unbelieveable, my mother said that she looked over at me during the movie and i looked horrified. All in all it was really good I thought.
Okay, I finally went and saw it.
Oh my God.
I never want to see another crow again.
That was the sickest thing I have ever seen in my life. People were retching in the aisles...literally! And I sure as hell felt like it!
I walked out of there feeling sick to my stomach, and I definitely wasn't the only one.
Okay, I accept that the poor man went through a lot of pain and agony, but that was a slasher film. That was one big long guilt-trip.
Oh my God.
I never want to see another crow again.
That was the sickest thing I have ever seen in my life. People were retching in the aisles...literally! And I sure as hell felt like it!
I walked out of there feeling sick to my stomach, and I definitely wasn't the only one.
Okay, I accept that the poor man went through a lot of pain and agony, but that was a slasher film. That was one big long guilt-trip.
>That was one big long guilt-trip.
would you have expected less from a good catholic like Gibson????
the pope will be soo proud to here this *LOL*
would you have expected less from a good catholic like Gibson????
the pope will be soo proud to here this *LOL*
well, Christ went thru all that (church people told me, i ain't sure about this), so I'm glad Gibson showed it
"And don't forget that Jesus was God made flesh. He could withstand anything until it was time to finish."
Oh boy... is this where I enter the conversation?
*awaits smartass comment from Bullwinkle and 300-year-old Catholic lesson from Krowa*
"I get so mad when pastors say that "salvation is free" yeah right but he wants your entire life devoted to him."
And, he wants your money. :)
"The number 666, which many Christians recognize as the "mark of the beast," is appearing on movie tickets for Gibson's film at a Georgia theater, drawing complaints from some moviegoers."
From a historical point of view, the devil wasn't even a thought in Jesus' time. Ancient Judaism had no beliefs of the devil. Christianity (which is derivative of Judaism) introduced/created the devil to be the Christian antithesis in the early second century. So with that in mind, any Christian with this knowledge who is still intimidated or angered by a three 6's situated beside one another should have nothing to worry about, as it should have no direct relationship with their faith. Regardless of historical facts, faith shouldn't be about what you're against... it should be about what "good" you believe in.
Oh boy... is this where I enter the conversation?
*awaits smartass comment from Bullwinkle and 300-year-old Catholic lesson from Krowa*
"I get so mad when pastors say that "salvation is free" yeah right but he wants your entire life devoted to him."
And, he wants your money. :)
"The number 666, which many Christians recognize as the "mark of the beast," is appearing on movie tickets for Gibson's film at a Georgia theater, drawing complaints from some moviegoers."
From a historical point of view, the devil wasn't even a thought in Jesus' time. Ancient Judaism had no beliefs of the devil. Christianity (which is derivative of Judaism) introduced/created the devil to be the Christian antithesis in the early second century. So with that in mind, any Christian with this knowledge who is still intimidated or angered by a three 6's situated beside one another should have nothing to worry about, as it should have no direct relationship with their faith. Regardless of historical facts, faith shouldn't be about what you're against... it should be about what "good" you believe in.
"This whole 'religion' thing is only dividing us all instead of bringimg peace and happiness... Don't you think there's something wrong here...?"
Thanks for your efforts, Fenderek. But here is not the place to find many level-headed and sane people who want to discuss this with you. And you know what? The real world isn't too much different. Be happy you're one of the smart ones. Most religious people have left their intelligence at church (in the collection plate?).
"The word 'believe' doesn't reuquire any kind of proving."
Correct, but science will cut you to shreds for that one.
"That was one big long guilt-trip."
I didn't have to see the film to know that would be the underlying message. :)
Oopsie, seems as though I have entered the topic.
Thanks for your efforts, Fenderek. But here is not the place to find many level-headed and sane people who want to discuss this with you. And you know what? The real world isn't too much different. Be happy you're one of the smart ones. Most religious people have left their intelligence at church (in the collection plate?).
"The word 'believe' doesn't reuquire any kind of proving."
Correct, but science will cut you to shreds for that one.
"That was one big long guilt-trip."
I didn't have to see the film to know that would be the underlying message. :)
Oopsie, seems as though I have entered the topic.
Well, the movie is #1 in the U.S. now.
I'm happy to have contributed in getting it to #1. I shall be seeing it again over the weekend.
The whole movie should have been about Jesus' entire life, his philosophy, his thoughts.
Jesus said that the main commandment was to love and respect each other, and that's far more valuable to learn than all the pain and suffering that he went through the last 12 hours of his life.
Whether you're christian or not you can't deny that there's a very important lesson to be learned from what he taught. Too bad that so many so called "christians" completely misunderstood Jesus point of view, and instead they killed and spread hatred towards non-christians and people who did not wish to convert to christianity.
Jesus said that the main commandment was to love and respect each other, and that's far more valuable to learn than all the pain and suffering that he went through the last 12 hours of his life.
Whether you're christian or not you can't deny that there's a very important lesson to be learned from what he taught. Too bad that so many so called "christians" completely misunderstood Jesus point of view, and instead they killed and spread hatred towards non-christians and people who did not wish to convert to christianity.
I really wanna see the movie, but it's been sold out, i'll try again this weekend
*awaits smartass comment from Bullwinkle and 300-year-old Catholic lesson from Krowa*
Believe it or not, I actually chuckled when I read this. :-)
By the way, great movie. It is not a movie that is to entertain us, but rather something that we are to experience. Whether you are a Christian or not, this film shows believers and non-believers what are the fundamental points of the Christian faith - love and sacrifice.
Believe it or not, I actually chuckled when I read this. :-)
By the way, great movie. It is not a movie that is to entertain us, but rather something that we are to experience. Whether you are a Christian or not, this film shows believers and non-believers what are the fundamental points of the Christian faith - love and sacrifice.
"Jesus said that the main commandment was to love and respect each other, and that's far more valuable to learn than all the pain and suffering that he went through the last 12 hours of his life."
Agreed.
"Whether you're christian or not you can't deny that there's a very important lesson to be learned from what he taught. Too bad that so many so called "christians" completely misunderstood Jesus point of view, and instead they killed and spread hatred towards non-christians and people who did not wish to convert to christianity."
Right on. From what I've heard, this movie seems to be theologically correct, even according to the real right-wing philosophers and theologans.
Good post, Jingles.
"Whether you are a Christian or not, this film shows believers and non-believers what are the fundamental points of the Christian faith - love and sacrifice."
I agree with "love", but could you elaborate on the "sacrifice" aspect? It really depends on what branch of Christian faith you're talking about... there are so many divisions, and so many interpretations of that.
Agreed.
"Whether you're christian or not you can't deny that there's a very important lesson to be learned from what he taught. Too bad that so many so called "christians" completely misunderstood Jesus point of view, and instead they killed and spread hatred towards non-christians and people who did not wish to convert to christianity."
Right on. From what I've heard, this movie seems to be theologically correct, even according to the real right-wing philosophers and theologans.
Good post, Jingles.
"Whether you are a Christian or not, this film shows believers and non-believers what are the fundamental points of the Christian faith - love and sacrifice."
I agree with "love", but could you elaborate on the "sacrifice" aspect? It really depends on what branch of Christian faith you're talking about... there are so many divisions, and so many interpretations of that.
"Correct, but science will cut you to shreds for that one."
There's nothing I can do about it. Scholars will always try to disprove things that were written in the bible such as miracles, but I never saw anyone who believes in God actually stops believing after they published their researches... You see, their arguements don't affect people's beliefs, they only make the atheists' comments "stronger", and I don't really care =)
There's nothing I can do about it. Scholars will always try to disprove things that were written in the bible such as miracles, but I never saw anyone who believes in God actually stops believing after they published their researches... You see, their arguements don't affect people's beliefs, they only make the atheists' comments "stronger", and I don't really care =)