The Passion Of The Christ

anyone catch the composers interview yet?

apparantly satan appeared to him while he was composing the music for the film........

its all getting massively hysterical to me...
sudden enlightenment-reaffirmations-and so on

even better for me is the merchandise line being touted now..... money changers in the temple dont cha think???

Hey, About how long is this movie?

it's 2 hours 6 minutes.

It feels much longer when you spend the full time trying not to retch.

Well, That's not too long at all! I SHOULD be going to see it later tonight, And am actually quite excited to see it! I'm hyper curious! :D

NAIL

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so misleading too-- Tyndale Publishing not Tyndale the person

Damn... I don't get to go tonight... *pouts*

They trademarked "The Passion Nail"?

>But anything you can find to complain about, feel free.
>So. What's your point?


what? having another bad day matt?

you want to take my postings as complaints so be it--

wouldnt be the first time
i doubt it will be the last.....

yes new and improved they did

i find it a bit ironic if not a bit hypocritical---

but i really should not say that......

i may get chastised by the pious ones...

The following articles have appeared in People Magazine the March 8, 2004 edition:

"Gibson has joked that there will be no fast food tie-ins. But seeking to spread the word - and the Word - plenty of groups have created licensed products for 'The Passion'. How to keep the trinkets tasteful? Says jewelry marketer Dwight Robinson, 'We talked to religious leaders to see if we are conveying the same thing they hope to share with their churches.'"

"Santa Ana, Calif., designer Bob Siemon (who helped popularize 'What Would Jesus Do' bracelets) is cranking out 5,000 pewter nail pendants a day. Also for sale: charms that read 'Passion' in Aramaic."

Clearly, many faithful people are using this movie to inspire and renew the faith among its parishioners. It is no surprise to me that they are using this sort of a marketing strategy. After all, in today's society where everything moves so quickly, and people have less time and as a result shorter attention spans, people have found new ways to grab attention. And especially something like religion, where people are moving away from it, drastic marketing campaigns have risen.

>And all you can do is bash it because you have some odd agenda against God or something. So they merchandise it. So what?

shows how little comprehension you have had with any my posts-and thank you for letting me know i have an odd agenda with god-- i didnt know that-- i will discuss that with him tonight when i say my prayers...


i do wonder why you had to compare to queer eye-- was that a little untintentional jab?? or did you think i can only compare things to queer stuff??

merchandising--give me a break--
this movie is not indian jones-or sweet home alabama-star wars-bridges of madison county and so on---

its subject matter itself- and where it 'supposedly' came from would dictate that at the very least IMO out of respect for said book and/or said person they would keep it from becoming a cash making cow on the verge of idolatry-example #3 below--

Idolatry
Image-worship or divine honour paid to any created object. Paul describes the origin of idolatry in Rom. 1:21-25: men forsook God, and sank into ignorance and moral corruption (1:28).

The forms of idolatry are, (1.) Fetishism, or the worship of trees, rivers, hills, stones, etc.

(2.) Nature worship, the worship of the sun, moon, and stars, as the supposed powers of nature.

(3.) Hero worship, the worship of deceased ancestors, or of heroes.

In Scripture, idolatry is regarded as of heathen origin,

I would see no issue with a pendant or cross saying "passion", but wearing an item that resembles a weapon and glorifies graphically portraying items of torture and murder ... is not that kind of sick?

I am sure I am missing the point, but (warning - incoming cheap shot) why should I listen to moralizing from a bootleg tree thief?

"In terms of stealing in specific, you don't need religion to tell you it's wrong. To most people it's rather common sense. :) That's more of a common courtesy and conscience thing than a religious thing."

"It always worried me that people needed to be threatened with eternal burning in hell in order for them to be good.
Don't get religeon."

I agree with the above to quotes.

Yep - Much of what is in the bible is based on common sense (but alot of it is not).

I have always felt I am as moral as most christians. I feel you do not have to believe in God to be a good person.

I don't understand how love of a god can be genuine if it is obtained under threat of eternal damnation. Why should I be destined to eternal damnation along side Hitler for refusing to believe, when I have otherwise obeyed the golden rule?

Speaking of Monty Python, has anyone heard a song from "the contractual obligation album" based on an old christian hymn?

It goes something like this:

All things cruel and dangerous
All creatures short and squat
All things rude and nasty
The LORD doth made a lot

Each stinging little hornet
Each beastly squeezing squid
Who made the poison ivy?
Who made them all? HE did

etc...

hilarious

"I don't understand how love of a god can be genuine if it is obtained under threat of eternal damnation. Why should I be destined to eternal damnation along side Hitler for refusing to believe, when I have otherwise obeyed the golden rule?"

On the contrary. Christianity preaches eternal salvation. That is why the religion took of so well with many converts because people were shown a "light at the end of the tunnel". Christ showed people that God is a God of Love.

Mel Gibson is a clever man to go up to bat against the Hollywood stereotypes of the religious movies. He is also taking a lot of stick about the movie being anti-semitic, however I will not see it in the movies I would prefer to rent it and see it with my family, something this personal should be shared privately so one can form their own opinions. I am not a religious person but I would rather form my own opinion only after I have seen the movie.


This movie has created a deep seated debate about Christianity and Judaism. Mel Gibson's own father believes that the Holocaust never happened, which is sad since there is so much overwhelming evidence that it indeed happened. Still he is entitled to his own opinion on the matter. The focus should be on the film itself which is as Gibson has stated repeatedly his own ideas on the last days of Christ.

Kriz ;o)