The Passion Of The Christ

I've just returned from seeing the movie. First I'd like to say that I am still trying to process what I saw. I have no doubt it was a literal interpretation of the facts in the Bible.

It was hard to take. Seeing the Lord beaten, and treated that way is not easy to see. The portrayal of Him was excellent. As was the movie. To think He went through that just to save my soul is incredible. Allowing Himself to endure the punishment, and eventually die on the cross is nothing less than astonishing. Many of the scenes with Mary were hart wrenching. She wanted to help her son, but couldn't do a thing to save him.
Jesus said in the movie 'I am the way the truth and the light. No man comes to the Father but by me.' He laid down His life. But only because He did it. The Romans didn't take it. Niether did the Jews. He said 'I allow you to do these things to me because the Father allows it.

It is a beautiful movie, and terrible at the same time. Brutal and loving. The true story of The Christ that is risen from the grave to save every one of us. If only we believe.

Have you ever watched 'Jesus of Nazareth' by Franco Zeffirelli, Matt?

If so, what do you think of 'The Passion' compared to that one.

I really liked Jesus of Nazareth. That one goes through His whole life. So in that regard, I like it in a different way. They don't go in to as much detail about the last 12 hours of Christ's life. The Passion is all about that last 12 hours, and it is very brutal. I cried durring the movie tonight. One part moved me that far. Jesus of Nazareth makes me feel good. The Passion gives me renewed hope and faith:)

I have to watch it, thanks Matt

As an atheist, i doubt it will have the same effect on me as it did on Matt if and when I eventually see it. I hate to see any human being tortured like that. I don't care if it's Jesus Christ or Joe Schmoe, it's wrong. The movie certainly reinforces THAT, if nothing else.

It looks like it was well done. But having heard one of my best friends' reports of it, I'm not so sure I'll be able to stomach it. He had to be rushed out of the theater after 20 or 30 minutes, due to retching on the floor.

I assume that since you are an atheist that you can disprove the existence of God? Perhaps you are more of an agnostic than atheist.

You aren't required to 'disprove' the existence of God to be an atheist Zeni. You simply refuse to acknowledge it, which is somewhat different. It can be argued against, but not disproved, just as those who do acknowledge his existence can never prove it to be so.

I don't believe in such nonsense however, but I have no desire to be labelled as anything.

Except perhaps Scoundrel and Coward, which I freely admit to being.

I can't wait to see it.

"You simply refuse to acknowledge it, which is somewhat different."

I don't quite see the difference. I think that refusing to acknowledge still falls into the agnostic catagory. Care to expand?


"It can be argued against, but not disproved, just as those who do acknowledge his existence can never prove it to be so."

I agree. But I think that most people that claim they don't believe in a god are actually agnostic and recognize the fact that they can never prove or disprove it.

Why must we be labelled so?

I am happy going through life just being me.

I'm not arguing for labels, but I hate seeing terms thrown around without due thought as to what they mean.

On the contrary, I know precisely what they mean.

It is not you, oh great Flashy, that I was doubting.

Why label Mandy as agnostic if she never gave a hint that she believes in God.

I've been talking to her for quite a while, and though she has told me that she's atheist, she has never made it seem like she believes in God or follows a certain kind of faith. Then again we have never discussed our own religion beliefs.

Well it better not be Zeni, that's all.

You've made my 'Eyes Damned' counter increase now.