Never heard of an edit of Spread Your Wings... is it just an early fade out like the video version? Also, I'm sure the Reznor mix of SYW is very interesting.
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I think you answered this a long time ago, John, but do you know which version of WWRY came first: slow or fast?
So no other versions of Who Needs You? Someone mentioned a reggae-like retake. Which would have been too cool.
Err... What's about Hollywood Records remaster's error version of 'It's Late'?
Serry: See my above replies.
Do you think "...Hollywood Records remaster's error of 'It's Late'?" warrants another inclusion? Is it really that different from the "original"?
In the "Sheer Heart Attack" thread it was noted that "In The Lap Of The Gods" (US Hollywood SHA: US 1991 Hollywood HR-61036-246206 2) was indeed an Alternative Master Version and not just another edit/error mistake. (Although I have the disc - I have NOT done the bench test yet to personally confirm this - but I trust the source).
Therefore, it is one of those grey areas. BUT, I am open to suggestion, and if you guys want the remastering errors included - then I can include them.
Do you think "...Hollywood Records remaster's error of 'It's Late'?" warrants another inclusion? Is it really that different from the "original"?
In the "Sheer Heart Attack" thread it was noted that "In The Lap Of The Gods" (US Hollywood SHA: US 1991 Hollywood HR-61036-246206 2) was indeed an Alternative Master Version and not just another edit/error mistake. (Although I have the disc - I have NOT done the bench test yet to personally confirm this - but I trust the source).
Therefore, it is one of those grey areas. BUT, I am open to suggestion, and if you guys want the remastering errors included - then I can include them.
"Hank: So no other versions of Who Needs You? Someone mentioned a reggae-like retake. Which would have been too cool. "
John is listing his personal collection here. If John doesn't have something, it doesn't mean it doesn't excist. He for instance didn't mention some songs that were played at the convention. For example the outtake of Somebody To Love. And an alternate version of Great King Rat
John is listing his personal collection here. If John doesn't have something, it doesn't mean it doesn't excist. He for instance didn't mention some songs that were played at the convention. For example the outtake of Somebody To Love. And an alternate version of Great King Rat
Serry: See my above replies.
Do you think "...Hollywood Records remaster's error of 'It's Late'?" warrants another inclusion? Is it really that different from the "original"?
In the "Sheer Heart Attack" thread it was noted that "In The Lap Of The Gods" (US Hollywood SHA: US 1991 Hollywood HR-61036-246206 2) was indeed an Alternative Master Version and not just another edit/error mistake. (Although I have the disc - I have NOT done the bench test yet to personally confirm this - but I trust the source).
Therefore, it is one of those grey areas. BUT, I am open to suggestion, and if you guys want the remastering errors included - then I can include them.
Sorry, I haven't seen the reply with the answer to It's Late.
As fast as you included some fan remixes only available to download over Internet it could be good to see a complete list of versions with errors as well. Some of them are stupid like Queen Rocks' Fat Bottomed Girls, but some ones are welcome like version of 'Headlong' from the video with extra guitar bit (well, if it could be called as an error) or HR's 'I Want It All' version, 'cause it even changes mood of the part of the song.
That's my opinion, so feel free to do in the way you like!
FriedChicken: "...If John doesn't have something, it doesn't mean it doesn't excist... For example the outtake of Somebody To Love. And an alternate version of Great King Rat"
Wait a minute guys - this is NOT about me. It is about pooling resources - and if I could GUARANTEE the two tracks above, I would include them.
So, what we need is evidence. Not heresay or rumour. If it can be demonstrated that a track DOES indeed exist. Then let's get it on the list. The only reason they are NOT on, is that I have not seen, heard or received any confirmation.
Now evidence like, but my friend said, or the source is reliable is b*llocks. We need clear, solid evidence, from at least two different sources. If that was the case - the YES, Yes, yes - they would most definately be included!
Wait a minute guys - this is NOT about me. It is about pooling resources - and if I could GUARANTEE the two tracks above, I would include them.
So, what we need is evidence. Not heresay or rumour. If it can be demonstrated that a track DOES indeed exist. Then let's get it on the list. The only reason they are NOT on, is that I have not seen, heard or received any confirmation.
Now evidence like, but my friend said, or the source is reliable is b*llocks. We need clear, solid evidence, from at least two different sources. If that was the case - the YES, Yes, yes - they would most definately be included!
Pretty useless, but please note that the karaoke version of Spread Your Wings is not entirely based on the album version, but it is sort of an instrumental mix downmixed work-in-progress during the original sessions (guitar arrangements are different).
Alright John, Sorry. I thought you were just listing your Personal collection.
I should make a list of songs that were played at the dutch convention.
I should make a list of songs that were played at the dutch convention.
"John is listing his personal collection here. If John doesn't have something, it doesn't mean it doesn't excist. He for instance didn't mention some songs that were played at the convention. For example the outtake of Somebody To Love. And an alternate version of Great King Rat"
EDIT: I'm too slow...
Fried Chicken, John already mentioned numerous tracks he does not have, but knows about, of which he labelled some as "WANTED". You're right, not mentioning something doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but the chances it does are minimal. Also, I wanted to be suggestive of the version so that maybe someone else (i.e. the person who is responsible for the rumour) could confirm/deny/discuss it, since there WERE people talking about it on this board.
EDIT: I'm too slow...
Fried Chicken, John already mentioned numerous tracks he does not have, but knows about, of which he labelled some as "WANTED". You're right, not mentioning something doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but the chances it does are minimal. Also, I wanted to be suggestive of the version so that maybe someone else (i.e. the person who is responsible for the rumour) could confirm/deny/discuss it, since there WERE people talking about it on this board.
Friedchicken: "I should make a list of songs that were played at the dutch convention".
Excellent. That would be a brilliant addition to the list. I know some RUMOURED tracks have been mentioned in here before, but not by me!
So if it IS confirmable - let's get it verified.
Here is a good example of Primary evidence:
http://www.brianmayworld.com/Convention01.htm
16th Official International Queen Convention
Prestatyn 2001
"Greg Brooks played... unreleased... versions of... "Nevermore", "White Queen" (...BBC sessions), The Invisible Man (Roger on vocals), and one... Queen song from 1988 called "Face it". (Actually "Face it Alone" – John S. Stuart 2004).
"ALL 15 BBC tracks will be in the Queen box... Man Made Paradise: there is a Queen version...
Michael Jackson tracks... will eventually appear... VICTORY... they aren't allowed to release... the track has all the queen boys singing backing vocals... a selection of tracks will be released... as instrumentals... MOTHER LOVE, numerous versions with Roger and Brian singing... alternate versions of "These are the Days of Our Lives"... but all slightly diff though..."
"Fast WWRY, no other version than the BBC version exists".
However, GB also stated "1st Queen box expected to be released at end of 2002. The format is yet unknown..."
Are there any other solid examples of reliable evidences or of GB on the record?
Excellent. That would be a brilliant addition to the list. I know some RUMOURED tracks have been mentioned in here before, but not by me!
So if it IS confirmable - let's get it verified.
Here is a good example of Primary evidence:
http://www.brianmayworld.com/Convention01.htm
16th Official International Queen Convention
Prestatyn 2001
"Greg Brooks played... unreleased... versions of... "Nevermore", "White Queen" (...BBC sessions), The Invisible Man (Roger on vocals), and one... Queen song from 1988 called "Face it". (Actually "Face it Alone" – John S. Stuart 2004).
"ALL 15 BBC tracks will be in the Queen box... Man Made Paradise: there is a Queen version...
Michael Jackson tracks... will eventually appear... VICTORY... they aren't allowed to release... the track has all the queen boys singing backing vocals... a selection of tracks will be released... as instrumentals... MOTHER LOVE, numerous versions with Roger and Brian singing... alternate versions of "These are the Days of Our Lives"... but all slightly diff though..."
"Fast WWRY, no other version than the BBC version exists".
However, GB also stated "1st Queen box expected to be released at end of 2002. The format is yet unknown..."
Are there any other solid examples of reliable evidences or of GB on the record?
does the B of IWT count also - Turn On Th TV?
Brenski...
If you mean - Roger Taylor: I Wanna Testify/ Turn On The TV - you will notice that this is a "News Of The World" thread, and as far as I know, Turn On The TV was recorded slighty earlier and can not therefore be part of this session.
If you are looking for more on this release, you will find here:
1977 - Ultimate Collection: (Part Two) Best Of The Rest
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=416641
Roger Taylor: I Wanna Testify/ Turn On The TV
Recorded: July 1977. Released 26th August 1977
I Wanna Testify
UK 7” 3:42 EMI 2679
Marc Bolan Show OST Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
Marc Bolan Show Thames 3:45 Video Unreleased: Home Video
Turn On The TV
UK 7” 3:24 EMI 2679
If you mean - Roger Taylor: I Wanna Testify/ Turn On The TV - you will notice that this is a "News Of The World" thread, and as far as I know, Turn On The TV was recorded slighty earlier and can not therefore be part of this session.
If you are looking for more on this release, you will find here:
1977 - Ultimate Collection: (Part Two) Best Of The Rest
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=416641
Roger Taylor: I Wanna Testify/ Turn On The TV
Recorded: July 1977. Released 26th August 1977
I Wanna Testify
UK 7” 3:42 EMI 2679
Marc Bolan Show OST Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
Marc Bolan Show Thames 3:45 Video Unreleased: Home Video
Turn On The TV
UK 7” 3:24 EMI 2679
Regarding the It's Late error, it is just a cueing error. IMHO, it does not make the song a 'different version' but a 'regular version plus error', as no proper editing/fading is involved. The same goes for the You Don't Fool Me (sexy club mix) from the UK CD single (CDQUEEN 25). I also include other digital-to-digital transfer errors in this category, such as the 'clicks' on Fat Bottomed Girls (album version) [1994 digital remaster] and You Don't Fool Me (THE EYE instrumental mix).