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I will put a new twist on this for now.....Michael Shiavo, Terri's husband, wouldn't even let her parents in to see her as she laid dying.....what a creep - and I thought my ex was heartless. This really makes me wonder what that guy is hiding....
GO, GO, GO LITTLE QUEENIE!!!!!!!!!!!
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The bad part about sentencing some to life in prison instead of receiving the death penalty is that tax payer's money is being spent on keeping this bastard alive and with a certain degree of benefits.

I agree that not everybody sentenced to death is guilty, but for those who are 100% clearly guilty of their charges sure deserve to be killed.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Brandon wrote: [/QUOTENAME]... and now the "best you can offer is Mr. Jingles? HA! He's... just pathetic.[/QUOTE]
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dragonzflame wrote:
<font color="lime">KillerQueen840 wrote:
I understand, but dehydration and starvation are one of the most painful ways to die. It is inhumane, even if she is mostly brain dead. Seriously, she has responded to different things such as a balloon passing by. She turned her head, followed it, and everything. Being on a feeding tube is not so much life support. She can breath on her own and do everything else necessary to live. A perfect example is how a baby relies on her mother to be fed. She is still a human and deserves respect even if she cannot (well, I guess now it would be right to say couldn't since she is gone..) do a lot of things. Her husband would not allow her to recieve therapy at all during her early stages. I am still disgusted. He could've just simply divorced her and allowed her parents to take care of her. He has a family of his own now, he should've let the people who cared for her the moment she was born take care of her now. Her husband must've had some infulence on why she had that accident. A young lady who is at a nice weight doesn't typical have a heart attack or stroke or whatever.


I can't believe nobody's said this...that's unbelievably judgemental on the husband. I don't know where you heard the part about him not allowing therapy, but if you'd been following the case you would know that she ended up in PVS because she had a heart attack CAUSED BY AN EATING DISORDER. (Ironic really...)I don't say that he was a saint or anything but saying that her husband had "some influence on why she had that accident" is totally unfounded speculation.
I fully believe that this should have been a private matter for the families and should never have gone through the media as it did. The whole situation was lose-lose for everyone.


Ya, I heard that she had an eating disorder, but her husband could've influenced that. He could've been abusive or something. He may seem like a nice guy, but one should keep his/her mind open to all posibilities. I mean, I know this should be private matters, but there still isn't that much background information out there on her husband. And you're right, I haven't been following it from the beginning, but that doesn't mean I know nothing. If I followed it from the beginning I would've been much too young to understand a single thing (and I wouldn't be surprised if someone threw out the insult, "Oh well you still don't understand a thing.". I am just giving my view, and that is all. I'm not forcing anyone to agree with me. And, I'm not a "judgemental" person. I listen to everyone, whether I agree with them or not. I feel that her husband should've divorced her and let her parents care for her. Since she was brain-dead, or according to some of you "dead," then the husband shouldn't have a problem with that. No matter what her husband did, I still think it's wrong to let her go like that. No one knows what really went on, I shouldn't have come out like I was accusing him, but that does make a lot of sense.
"The walls we build around us to keep sadness out also keep out the joy." (Jim Rohn)
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If you’ve heard about Terri only through the news media, you’ve probably been led to believe that Terri was in a coma… that she was brain dead… that she was a vegetable… that she was on extraordinary life support… or that she wanted to die but her parents stubbornly didn't want to let it happen.
Terri was NOT brain dead. She was NOT in a coma. She was NOT in a “persistent vegetative state.” And she was not on ANY life-support system.
She merely received food and liquid through a gastro feeding tube because her brain injury prevented her from being able to swallow. In other words, Terri depended on food and water to stay alive—just like you and me!
Terri could breathe for herself. She was not on a ventilator. Her vital organs were working fine, which means she was not hooked up to a machine. Furthermore, she was not dying or being “kept alive” by artificial means. She did not have a terminal disease, and she was able to feel pain when she starved to death.

How Could Someone Do All This
To Another Human Being?!?
Oh yes we'll keep on tryin'
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<font color="lime">KillerQueen840 wrote:
Ya, I heard that she had an eating disorder, but her husband could've influenced that. He could've been abusive or something.


I'm rather sickened of this kind of mentality, accusing the husband of all manner of evil things with absolutely NO basis for that opinion. Don't you think that if Michael was abusive, Terri's parents would've been shouting that in front of all those cameras?

You don't need an abusive husband to have an eating disorder. How ridiculous.



I feel that her husband should've divorced her and let her parents care for her. Since she was brain-dead, or according to some of you "dead," then the husband shouldn't have a problem with that. No matter what her husband did, I still think it's wrong to let her go like that. No one knows what really went on, I shouldn't have come out like I was accusing him, but that does make a lot of sense.


He didn't divorce her because he knew her parents would've continued to play god and kept her "alive." She expressed to him that she did NOt want to "live" that way and he fought very hard to make sure her wishes were fulfilled. He could have given up very easily and just said "screw it, forget what she really wanted." He fought FOR HER. People should not forget that.
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"I'm rather sickened of this kind of mentality, accusing the husband of all manner of evil things with absolutely NO basis for that opinion. Don't you think that if Michael was abusive, Terri's parents would've been shouting that in front of all those cameras?"

Actually, I saw Terri's brother say on camera numerous times that he questioned the possibility of whether Terri's husband was guilty of domestic abuse.
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Oh Oliver, that is horrible *wants to cry* - what you say does make sense - the hospital was also giving her a morphine drip via IV for the pain - pain for what? Obviously she did feel pain while starving to death - this is just horrible....
GO, GO, GO LITTLE QUEENIE!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oliver wrote:
If you’ve heard about Terri only through the news media, you’ve probably been led to believe that Terri was in a coma… that she was brain dead… that she was a vegetable… that she was on extraordinary life support… or that she wanted to die but her parents stubbornly didn't want to let it happen.
Terri was NOT brain dead. She was NOT in a coma. She was NOT in a “persistent vegetative state.” And she was not on ANY life-support system.



Then what was she doing then? Playing basketball? Preparing for the Olympics?



She merely received food and liquid through a gastro feeding tube because her brain injury prevented her from being able to swallow. In other words, Terri depended on food and water to stay alive—just like you and me!


NOT just like you and me. Her "food" was a paste like substance. BTW, a feeding tube is indeed life support, she died after it was removed or did you not notice that?


and she was able to feel pain when she starved to death.



That's not really true. People who starve actually end up feeling euphoria of some sort.


How Could Someone Do All This
To Another Human Being?!?


My personal opinion is that Terri's parents were selfish. Their daughter was dead for all intents and purpose. They wanted her around so that they would feel better, regardless of what their daughter wanted.

Tough, painful? No doubt about it but there comes a point when you need to say good-bye and let your loved one's suffering stop.
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Oh, and I am sure that the "grieving" husband went merrily home to his girlfriend and their 2 children - how ironic, Terri was in fertility counseling and Michael got a settlement from that malpractice suit when that doctor did not detect the chemical inbalance from the eating disorder she was allegedly suffering from. Well, Michael has his kids now doesn't he?
GO, GO, GO LITTLE QUEENIE!!!!!!!!!!!
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LittQueenie wrote:
Oh Oliver, that is horrible *wants to cry* - what you say does make sense - the hospital was also giving her a morphine drip via IV for the pain - pain for what? Obviously she did feel pain while starving to death - this is just horrible....


No, giving morphine is kind of routine in cases like this. They know it's not going to worsen anything so they basically figure "what would it hurt?"

When the autopsy is performed and the world knows just how damaged her brain was, I hope people will just realize they were wrong and move on.

You shouldn't play god. Terri would've died a long time ago without the feeding tube. If you're so damn religious, then people should die a natural death, not perpetuate this grotesque masquerade of life when all that's there is flesh and bones with no mind or soul.
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LittQueenie wrote:
Oh, and I am sure that the "grieving" husband went merrily home to his girlfriend and their 2 children - how ironic, Terri was in fertility counseling and Michael got a settlement from that malpractice suit when that doctor did not detect the chemical inbalance from the eating disorder she was allegedly suffering from. Well, Michael has his kids now doesn't he?


What, do you think Michael ENJOYED this? That he was eager for her to die because he hated her and wanted to punish her parents? What kind of twisted mind do you have?

and that settlement? First off, most of it has been spent on her medical care and lawyers over 15 years because of this crap. Second, Michael has NO control over that settlement money because the judgment was to Terri NOT Michael. A Judge decided what that money was spent on, not Michael.

Try again.
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If anybody really wants to know the real story about Terri please visit this website:

http://terrisfight.org/index2.html
Oh yes we'll keep on tryin'
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Oliver wrote:
If anybody really wants to know the real story about Terri please visit this website:

http://terrisfight.org/index2.html


You should amend your post to say "If anybody wants to know one side of of the story.."
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Ok Michael Allred, I see you are the typicall guy that always has to have the last word....I wouldn't be surprised if you aren't really Michael Schiavo after what I've read in your posts....
Oh yes we'll keep on tryin'
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I can't believe you! Do you really think he would be abusive infront of her? Do you really think they would let her parents know? That's not how abuse works. If people could easily tell someone that they were being abused, then abusive situations wouldn't exist. People get threatened so they won't tell anyone. It is secretive. Now I'm starting to go a bit off topic. And yet again, you must have not read what I wrote clearly. I'm not ACCUSING HIM. I am running through the POSIBILITIES.
..I give up. Whatever.
"The walls we build around us to keep sadness out also keep out the joy." (Jim Rohn)