ANYWAY- they patched the FBG thing but they left many mistakes!!! During Now I'm Here Brian played wrong chord (intro) and they didn't change it. They didn't even try to cover what happened during Guitar Solo. There are more (less obvious) and they stayed. I think it's a pretty decent documentation of what the gig was like... I love it- only LIVE KILLERS's better so far...
Don't be daft - these aren't 'overdubs' - Pro tools can fix performance glitches quite easily - happens all the time - don't fret!
The "glitch" Freddie made in Fat Bottomed Girls cannot possibly be repaired with ProTools. It was a major screw-up and was overdubbed. Believe me, I am a Pro Tools user.
Quite. If Pro Tools was indeed that powerful, we would probably be able to re-mould Freddie recordings into new songs. I wonder if that will be possible some day (using the principles of resynthesis, perhaps?).
Don't be daft - these aren't 'overdubs' - Pro tools can fix performance glitches quite easily - happens all the time - don't fret!
The "glitch" Freddie made in Fat Bottomed Girls cannot possibly be repaired with ProTools. It was a major screw-up and was overdubbed. Believe me, I am a Pro Tools user.
Quite. If Pro Tools was indeed that powerful, we would probably be able to re-mould Freddie recordings into new songs. I wonder if that will be possible some day (using the principles of resynthesis, perhaps?).
I haven't notice that... I also have some bootleg videos, but not the Bowl 82.
I want to share something different from the Bowl: I don't know if it's my imagination, but I perceive in the group a little distanced between them and without communication.
They usually made jokes and Freedie used to make visual contact with the others, and laugh with each other. In the Bowl, I don´t perceive it. I think in the last 4 songs, Freddie goes where Roger is, but without saying nothing to him.
They look weird.
I don't know if this has been discussed before (although i did a quick search on the notice board).. sorry if it has been discussed before..
Queen on fire at the bowl has been overdubbed.
I was listening to Fat Bottomed Girls. On the bootleg i have from that show (Command Performance Milton keynes 1982) you can clearly hear Freddie hitting a false note. This is on the track FBG after 2 minutes and 19 seconds. For those of you who don't have the bootleg: Freddie sings ain't no beauty queens at this...and than the false no comes..
When you listen to the official cd from the same concert (on fire, live at the bowl) you can hear Freddie singing the same textline without the false note. After 2 minutes and 23 seconds Freddie sings the same line in Fat Bottomed Girls perfectly well.It has been overdubbed in the studio.
I want a live recording, not a live recording which has been made "perfect" in the studio and is full of overdubs! That's fake. I realise most bands will use the studio overdubs on their "live" albums and queen did it before as well (live killers) but i still don't like it.
Who of you has found other overdubs on the on fire cd's? What a shame also that they have edited some of Freddie's speeches out.
Ofcourse they are going to edit out speeches on cd's. Get the DVD, that has the chit chat.
As for that one overdub. I don't care. It sounds better without it, although if it was in then I wouldnt care either. The point about On Fire is that Queen played as good as they had ever done. And the versions of Action This Day, Somebody To Love, Fat Bottomed Girls and Tie Your Mother Down are the best I have ever heard.
Just one example: don't stop me now. Queen never performed the full intro on the 'Killers' tour. So that's the most obvious one.
I don't think that is true.
I have always thought it would have been better, if they had just selected the best overall performance of every track; rather than splicing them together from different sources.
Quite. If Pro Tools was indeed that powerful, we would probably be able to re-mould Freddie recordings into new songs. I wonder if that will be possible some day (using the principles of resynthesis, perhaps?).
Ha! Interesting point! I don't think that they can produce results that would stand under the scrutiny of an experienced musician. If they can, I would urge Mick Jagger to retire NOW.
There is another thread somewhere on this board where someone rightfully claims that you can't make something out of nothing. I do think however that if you were to isolate every single word Freddie put on tape throughout his career, reshuffle and digitally manipulate them, you would be able to make a halfway decent song/album.
That being said, almost everything that was deemed impossible in recent history has in the meantime come true. I'm not sure if what Adam claims is correct (that they can already do it), but I expect it to happen in the next 10/20 years.
What would personally interest me most is a way to break down stereo mixes into their original multi-tracks again, perhaps by frequency analysis or something. Now that would be heaven for remixers and musicians alike!
This is is EXACTLY right - listen to the ORIGINAL version of The Who's "Live At Leeds". They then released a re-issue in 1995 which featured a few re-touches on the vocals by John Entwistle at teh start of "Heaven And Hell" - they then put out a Deluxe 2-CD version which featured the whole show, but with additional overdubs from Daltrey at the end of Tommy.
This completely fucked up what was, on the ORIGINAL masters, a stunning show - warts and all.
Brian's Live At Brixton Academy album is probebly the WORST example of studio tampering (alongside The Stones' Get Yer Ya Ya's Out)
It's more an ego thing for the band to be honest - they don't want people to remember them for their mistakes and simply want to correct their errors etc. Personally, I'd rather ALWAYS have the unedited show, but if that's what the bend feels is right, then we can't do a great deal about it.
Brian's Live At Brixton Academy album is probebly the WORST example of studio tampering (alongside The Stones' Get Yer Ya Ya's Out)
Ok, could anyone be more specific on the studio tampering of Brian's Live At Brixton Academy? I didn't think there were that many overdubs... which parts, for example, are overdubbed?
We Will Rock You is *NOTHING LIKE* what was played on the night - Brian's vocals during Love Token, Too Much Love Will Kill You and Back To The Light have also been "fixed".
It's more noticeable on the video actually, when Brian is at the mic and clearly what you HEAR is not what you SEE......
