Studio overdubs on Milton Keynes

Hello,

I don't know if this has been discussed before (although i did a quick search on the notice board).. sorry if it has been discussed before..

Queen on fire at the bowl has been overdubbed.

I was listening to Fat Bottomed Girls. On the bootleg i have from that show (Command Performance Milton keynes 1982) you can clearly hear Freddie hitting a false note. This is on the track FBG after 2 minutes and 19 seconds. For those of you who don't have the bootleg: Freddie sings ain't no beauty queens at this...and than the false no comes..

When you listen to the official cd from the same concert (on fire, live at the bowl) you can hear Freddie singing the same textline without the false note. After 2 minutes and 23 seconds Freddie sings the same line in Fat Bottomed Girls perfectly well.It has been overdubbed in the studio.

I want a live recording, not a live recording which has been made "perfect" in the studio and is full of overdubs! That's fake. I realise most bands will use the studio overdubs on their "live" albums and queen did it before as well (live killers) but i still don't like it.

Who of you has found other overdubs on the on fire cd's? What a shame also that they have edited some of Freddie's speeches out.

Don't be daft - these aren't 'overdubs' - Pro tools can fix performance glitches quite easily - happens all the time - don't fret!

Additionally,there are no dubs on Live Killers - none - period!

LIVIN' A LIE = STEPFORD! >,<

There are definitely no dubs on Live Killers - they had plenty of live takes to choose from for each track! And i'd say it was quite impossible for Freddie to overdub new vocals for a DVD (!!). Just clever editing I'd say.

As said in my analysis (thanks for posting the link, Ducksoup), I firmly believe there are overdubs on Bicycle Race, '39, Don't Stop Me Now, and We Are The Champions.

All other tampers, of which there are quite a few, are from multi-tracks of other concerts.

If Queen did overdub their live albums - than I'm dissapointed and very sorry to hear that.
I want LIVE - whether it's prefect or not, but LIVE recording - what you HEAR is what you GET. :)

ANAGRAMER wrote:

Don't be daft - these aren't 'overdubs' - Pro tools can fix performance glitches quite easily - happens all the time - don't fret!

The "glitch" Freddie made in Fat Bottomed Girls cannot possibly be repaired with ProTools. It was a major screw-up and was overdubbed. Believe me, I am a Pro Tools user.

Being a musician myself I couldn't agree with you more. I would prefer a band leave any mistakes in their live recordings. It shows their only human but that's just me. I noticed in BoRap on the video that the piano run up coming out of the heavy section is dubbed with another run-up. It doesn't sync to well. And I heard that Freddie always dreaded that p[iano run-up and listening to many bootlegs he tenede to rush it a bit leading to minor mistakes. Also, there was originally keyboards at the begining of the show in We Will Rock You. I was ELATED when then dropped it out of the final mix for the dvd. But Queen being perfectionists did what they had to do for their art. You still gotta love it though!

On the original "We Will Rock You" VHS, there are many seemingly overdubs. To top that, the audio is horrible - even in 5.1 digital audio. The drums and bass are completely lost throughout. I recall definite overdubs with Freddie's voice on "Play The Game", "Somebody to Love" and a couple others. Aside from the poor quality of audio and the clearly out of sync overdubs, Queen were in their best form.

Those from We Will rock you Aren't overdubs, but excepts from the other day (2 days were recorded and mixed together for the recording)