Brettles - Enjoy being a teenager. Once it's gone, it's gone for good.
Enjoy having fun. Learn from mistakes you may make along the way, but, in 10 or 20 years time, be able to look back and say 'yeah - it was all f*cking worth it'.
You hopefully have many years of quality life before you. Enjoy it. Know how sad the whingers must be to get upset about someone they don't know selling recordings they don't own to someone else that they also don't know - and to know that these people were actually glad to be 'ripped off'.
Maybe Penetration what's his face moved straight from early childhood to middle age.
BTW Penetration - I myself have never sold any bootleg recordings - it doesn't seem worth the time & hassle for such a small return. BUT..... I may just sell some now. I'll be sure to give you first refusal!
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You say sell for the cost of the CD's + postage - are you forgetting about labour?
What's the labour? Downloading a concert for free, burning it on Cd and sending it?
I hope you're not serious.
How can you take something for free and then sell it, making a good profit from it and pretending you're doing a favour to the community?
Dear Brettles,
I haven't answered before because I had some holidays without my pc!
I read all your answers and all I have to say is this: it's a free world and anyone is free to do anything in respect of the rules society has stated. Or at least it's still so in this moment.
Have you noticed what e-bay says about bootlegs?
Here it is:
" Bootleg Recordings
Bootleg recordings are unauthorized recordings of concerts or live performances. Sellers are not permitted to list bootleg recordings on eBay.
Violations of this policy may result in a range of actions, including:
Listing cancellation
Limits on account privileges
Account suspension"
No checks by E-bay or other authorities do not mean, in my opinion, that everyone can simply ignore it. And if other people do so, does it mean that we all can break rules?
In my opinion rules must be obeyed.
I'm only sorry that you had my first message as a personal critic. Because it wasn't! I do perfectly know, since I buy a lot on e-bay, that there are lots of bootlegs and not only Queen bootlegs. And I, like others here on this forum, totally disapprove this kind of sellings.
I know that there also a lot of people who buy this item... I disapprove them too!
Especially because I know that they can trade or simply download quite everything they buy!
After this, I can understand your personal reasons. I've been a student since November 2003 and I perfectly remember I didn't have enough money to afford a lot of things... still haven't got much. But I remember also that I started working when I was 19 just to pay for my study and all the things I wanted.
I attended a gig of the tour too and I paid the ticket very much. I won't talk about too personal things, but I can ensure you that it was a very big amount for my present earnings. But I never even thought to sell on e-bay pics or bootlegs!
I just have to say that alla I was saying on the first message wasn't personal. I was just talking about my point of view.
I haven't answered before because I had some holidays without my pc!
I read all your answers and all I have to say is this: it's a free world and anyone is free to do anything in respect of the rules society has stated. Or at least it's still so in this moment.
Have you noticed what e-bay says about bootlegs?
Here it is:
" Bootleg Recordings
Bootleg recordings are unauthorized recordings of concerts or live performances. Sellers are not permitted to list bootleg recordings on eBay.
Violations of this policy may result in a range of actions, including:
Listing cancellation
Limits on account privileges
Account suspension"
No checks by E-bay or other authorities do not mean, in my opinion, that everyone can simply ignore it. And if other people do so, does it mean that we all can break rules?
In my opinion rules must be obeyed.
I'm only sorry that you had my first message as a personal critic. Because it wasn't! I do perfectly know, since I buy a lot on e-bay, that there are lots of bootlegs and not only Queen bootlegs. And I, like others here on this forum, totally disapprove this kind of sellings.
I know that there also a lot of people who buy this item... I disapprove them too!
Especially because I know that they can trade or simply download quite everything they buy!
After this, I can understand your personal reasons. I've been a student since November 2003 and I perfectly remember I didn't have enough money to afford a lot of things... still haven't got much. But I remember also that I started working when I was 19 just to pay for my study and all the things I wanted.
I attended a gig of the tour too and I paid the ticket very much. I won't talk about too personal things, but I can ensure you that it was a very big amount for my present earnings. But I never even thought to sell on e-bay pics or bootlegs!
I just have to say that alla I was saying on the first message wasn't personal. I was just talking about my point of view.
AC - You may not place much value on your time. This is not the case for most people in the western world.
I can't believe I just read through this shit - I must be as sad and pathetic as most of you on here
Dreamres Ball sums it all up
who is forcing people to pay for these items off eBay ( or anywhere else for that matter)
If they are happy to pay for it - in the words of Metallica " SO FUCKING WHAT"
Is everyone that sad that they have to get involved in other business
I think Richard should remove this topic it's fucking sad
Dreamres Ball sums it all up
who is forcing people to pay for these items off eBay ( or anywhere else for that matter)
If they are happy to pay for it - in the words of Metallica " SO FUCKING WHAT"
Is everyone that sad that they have to get involved in other business
I think Richard should remove this topic it's fucking sad
AC - You may not place much value on your time. This is not the case for most people in the western world.
Oh yea Im in the western world...so I need to place a high value on just a few clicks? let me guess, are you fat and lazy?
You should not bring in "Your time" into this, there is basically no work at all to make a cd, unless you are really lazy and stupid that it takes you a few hours to figure out how to make a CD.
If you think we are wrong here at Queenzone, Then I invite you to ask, lets say Brian may..You can submit questions to him.
Will you do it? I thought so.
May I suggest drug dealing (preferrably on e-bay) instead of your CD-R scamming. The profits are higher, and the customers are all too willing to buy ... and a little recreational drug use never hurt anyone.
AC - You may not place much value on your time. This is not the case for most people in the western world.
Time to download the torrent: right click and save and then open the .torrent file.
(then you leave the computer connected to internet, go to sleep, come back after 15 hours and there you have it)
Time to burn the CD: drag & drop the files, insert a blank CD, click on "Burn CD". Repeat 2 times for 2 Cds.
Time to put the item on ebay: 5 minutes for the description maybe?
So, where is all this valuable time? It doesn't seem much to me.
If you are really doing it for ebay users, why didn't you put "downloaded from free on www.queenzone.com" on the description?
AC do you think that if you leave your computer on over night the electricity is free? I dont think so, it may be free for you sitting in your Gypo Caravan with your electricty wired up to a lamp post.
why dont you just get over it!!!!!
Brett could be doing a lot worse things!!!!
why dont you just get over it!!!!!
Brett could be doing a lot worse things!!!!
AC do you think that if you leave your computer on over night the electricity is free? I dont think so, it may be free for you sitting in your Gypo Caravan with your electricty wired up to a lamp post.
You're an idiot. You download something for free and you complain about paying electricity? Where do you come from, Uganda maybe? (no offence to Uganda)
You're just a thief because you take something for free and then you make others pay for it, without telling them they could get it for free as well.
Brett could be doing a lot worse things!!!!
And how do you know he is not doing them?
AC, what the fuck are you on about??
Firstly, Andrews and myself didn't download the concerts for free. We both bought them off eBay, just the same as people are buying them off us.
Also, why the fuck would we post a listing on eBay stating that you can download the exact item we are selling for free?? That would be a pointless money-making scam now wouldn't it...
If you're so bothered, why don't you take it upon yourself to post a listing on eBay (not forgetting to pay the listing fee's etc out of your own pocket), stating that you can download a concert from Queenzone for free, even though half-way through the concert it cuts out??
I think you'll find a hell of a lot more people are willing to pay a small amount for a CD to come through their letterbox with the complete concert on, rather than leave their computer on for a stupid amount of hours, just to recieve half a friggin concert!! Think about it AC...
Firstly, Andrews and myself didn't download the concerts for free. We both bought them off eBay, just the same as people are buying them off us.
Also, why the fuck would we post a listing on eBay stating that you can download the exact item we are selling for free?? That would be a pointless money-making scam now wouldn't it...
If you're so bothered, why don't you take it upon yourself to post a listing on eBay (not forgetting to pay the listing fee's etc out of your own pocket), stating that you can download a concert from Queenzone for free, even though half-way through the concert it cuts out??
I think you'll find a hell of a lot more people are willing to pay a small amount for a CD to come through their letterbox with the complete concert on, rather than leave their computer on for a stupid amount of hours, just to recieve half a friggin concert!! Think about it AC...
I am getting a bit bored of this AC you are the idiot cause if you notice you can not download all the Sheffield concert for free.
ITS ONLY HALF THE CONCERT YOU MUPPET....
Brett maybe doing things a lot worse than selling a cd on ebay but he keeps that to himself...
ITS ONLY HALF THE CONCERT YOU MUPPET....
Brett maybe doing things a lot worse than selling a cd on ebay but he keeps that to himself...
Yeah AC...
I'm a drugs baron really... I just devise scams on eBay to top my bank account up now and again...
I'm a drugs baron really... I just devise scams on eBay to top my bank account up now and again...
Wow, idiots, find new excuses. Frist the time, then the electricity... you did it to save the world, right?
Oh, how great you are, you did it for the starving children... how many times did you download the Live Aid DVD? Donwloading it many times surely helps the poor children to get the food...
Oh, how great you are, you did it for the starving children... how many times did you download the Live Aid DVD? Donwloading it many times surely helps the poor children to get the food...
AC dont you think your the idiot because as this forum has been going on me and brett have made about £500!!!
So whos the idiot????
So whos the idiot????