ThomasQuinn wrote:
Guy wrote:
If when you say 'them' you mean terrorists, then the answer is yes.
That's exactly the mistake Israel makes: "if they don't like us taking their land, we'll just kill them, then they won't protest against it". Well, that just doesn't work.
Our war with the Palestinians is more than a 100 years old and nothing in our relationship has changed, but our security has.
Your conflict with the Palestines dates back to the late 1940s, when Israel was established. You were given the land, but somehow it was forgotten that there was already a people living there (reminiscent of the pope dividing the New World between Spain and Portugal, disregarding the natives). Your war dates back to the '60s, when you so kindly started occupying land which according to the treaties both of you signed belonged to the Palestines.
Since the conclusion of Operation Defensive Shield, the follow-on Operation Determined Path and the continued construction of the Israeli West Bank Barrier the level of terrorism in general, and suicide bombings in particular, has, according to some sources, dropped by more than 95% to less then five suicide bombings during the period from August 2003 to July 2004.
That wouldn't by any chance have anything to do with the fact that Israel has instigated something of an apartheid against the Palestines, making sure they can hardly leave their LEGAL (as opposed to the Colonists') settlements, now would it? Moreover, your army tends to shoot terrorists dead when they are still teenagers protesting against yet another Nazi-like measure against their people...that's an effective tactic, killing them before they get a chance to maybe become terrorist. Maybe we should enforce that worldwide. That'd solve the exess population for sure, as anyone affiliated with any opposition party worldwide would surely be killed.
I'm sorry for my sarcasm, but I just can't see the Israeli military itself as anything but a terrorist organisation.
It's quite clear what side I'm on, since I'm a Jew living in Israel (though not all Israeli Jews think the same way, mind you). That said, any "we" I use is a reference to the Jews, and any "they" I use is a reference to the Palestinians.
I'll start by saying I'm against any military action that harms innocent people in any way. However, I'm in favor of capturing terrorists and in case of immediate danger - killing them. Our way of action is simple. We surround the house of a wanted terrorist and use a loudspeaker to tell him we had surrounded the house. We then ask him to come out and surrender. Usually, the following scenario happens: he doesn't come out, we bring tractors and start demolishing the house, he comes out shooting everywhere (usually with a few terrorist friends) and we kill him (hence I said 'immediate danger').
Sometimes, when surrounding the terrorist's house is dangerous for various reasons (the area is known to "host" a lot of other armed terrorists, for example), we use helicopters which shoot missiles directly at the terrorist's car. In some cases, sadly, innocent people are hurt.
You might be sad to hear that these 2 methods DO work, at least as far as we're concerned. I know there's 1 less terrorist to get on a bus, get on a plane, enter a mall or take hostages inside a private home, and that's what matters to me. The fact his mother is at home crying, protesting, doesn't make me shed a tear, because she's the one who had given him the education that made him into what he was.
Our conflict with the Palestinians did not start back in the late 40s, when Israel was established. Maybe that's what someone made you think, but it's wrong. Read link #1 for the facts.
Our war with the Arabs does not date back to the 60s. Read link #2 for the facts. During this war, by the w
