Since John Deacon has resigned from Queen, have you also noticed how he's being ignored on all levels.
I had another look at the "Bowl" DVD last night and noticed we get plenty of Brian, Roger & Freddie, but not too much of John.
So OK, he hadn't a great stage presence, but is still 1/4 of the band.
Compilations: Too many Brian & Roger tunes.
John did contribute great singles to the band too, yet they seemed to be eclipsed in the releases after 1995.
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Yes, John did have some great songs, but not as much as Freddie or Brian. It's just a simple fact, so nothing weird he's less mentioned on DVD's than the rest of them. Of course compilations too will have more Brian's songs than John's when Brian wrote much more than John.
I don't think so... I don't think that Gavin Taylor has something against John...
I think we see less of him just about everywhere because John is a weinee. He's always been the butt of Queen's jokes. Look at his intro on Magic Years - after 5 seconds of stammering during an interview, they cut away. Look at Live in Budapest - during the personal segments, while everyone else is doing something exciting, there's John in a park, being a weinee and talking to some little English girl about where she lives. Other than Gene Simmons, most bassists are little weinees. They are usually playing bass because real guitar is too challenging for them, so they take up residence in the background, making background noise. Being a rock frontman myself, I must say from my experience that for all they contribute, they are also awefully picky, opinionated, and usually just a pain in the ass to live with. Yes, John Deacon wrote some good songs, but both on and off stage he had all the charisma of a wet tea bag.
Other than Gene Simmons, most bassists are little weinees. They are usually playing bass because real guitar is too challenging for them, so they take up residence in the background, making background noise. Being a rock frontman myself, I must say from my experience that for all they contribute, they are also awefully picky, opinionated, and usually just a pain in the ass to live with.
I've been a working musician for most of the last 25 years and from my experience a rhythm section can make or break a band. The good ones aren't noticed until they aren't there. (In my youthful arrogance I fired some good bassists and drummers and really missed their skill when I had to endure less skilled musicians) An educated ear can tell, no rhythm section no band.
John Deacon is a good bassist capable of laying down a groove ala James Jamerson, Jerry Jemmot or Duck Dunn or playing a melodic rock line ala Chris Squire.
He did the job required within Queen which didn't draw attention to himself.
He also has been credited with making business decisions which made Queen alot of money.
I don't think so... I don't think that Gavin Taylor has something against John...
It's not gavin- it's John who was hiding in the darkest corners of the stage. I mean- should we have a camera chasing John on DVD, trying to find him? :)
John is dead, the rest of the band thought it was too painful to include him in the DVD :P
Oh dear... ://
yes but you notice how they play Another One Bites The Dust on the Q+PR tour yet at no point they say anything along the lines of "heres another great song, by a great friend, John Deacon"? no they go straight into it, no intro about it, and afterwards nothing about it, it is played and thats it! its like "thanks John, we will use your song but you will get no thanks from it cos you resigned!" the only way iv noticed John being remembered is in the TATDOOL and Bo Rhap vids used on the tour, with images of him shown. thats about it!
Roger usually said something about John before I Want To Break Free on his solo tours.
No way! He's making a mint are you joking!
> They are usually playing bass because real guitar is too challenging for them
That's the most absurd comment I've ever seen here (and there have been many)
Bass is way more than "background noise". It's imo the most important instrument besides drums
That's the most absurd comment I've ever seen here (and there have been many)
Bass is way more than "background noise". It's imo the most important instrument besides drums
Other than Gene Simmons, most bassists are little weinees. They are usually playing bass because real guitar is too challenging for them, so they take up residence in the background, making background noise.
Fnurr?
John Entwhistle was a "weinee"?
Michael Anthony is a "weinee"?
Okay, I take back the "little" out of wienee. There may be bassists of large physical stature. They're still wienees though. And as for bass being the most important instrument besides drums, I've never seen a "bass solo" during a show, never heard anyone say "Hey, listen to that incredible bass!" I'll happily add Flea to the list of bassists who are cool, but that's it. With people like Jack White doing away with bass altogether, I see a light at the end of the tunnel as far as these moody scourges of music go. And honestly, who amongst you could honestly say that John Deacon was a visual draw during a live Queen show? The other three at least did more than bob up and down in place like a wet tea bag. As for accountancy for the band, I've read that with the exception of the Magic tour, every tour they did put the band in the hole. Where was Mr. Deacon then?
Yikes, why would anyone want to sit and talk about John or any bassist in such a way?
Btw, didn't the on fire dvd actually come from two pre-recorded video feeds that were made on the day? In other words, isn't that all the footage that exists and therefore had nothing to do with post-95 editing decisions?
Btw, why should Bri or Rog have to mention John when they play a song of his? When John didn't show up for any of the big awards over the last few years, I've thought it a bit insulting to the band he was once part of. I've never been happy with those kind of decisions where he didn't show up for at least one of those big awards, like HOF in the USA. And remember that Brian has stated many times before that John is happy with whatever Bri or Rog do with Queen.
So if he doesn't bother to make any kind of contact, why should Bri or Rog have to say anything about John? Isn't that what John wants.
Peace,
Adam.
Btw, didn't the on fire dvd actually come from two pre-recorded video feeds that were made on the day? In other words, isn't that all the footage that exists and therefore had nothing to do with post-95 editing decisions?
Btw, why should Bri or Rog have to mention John when they play a song of his? When John didn't show up for any of the big awards over the last few years, I've thought it a bit insulting to the band he was once part of. I've never been happy with those kind of decisions where he didn't show up for at least one of those big awards, like HOF in the USA. And remember that Brian has stated many times before that John is happy with whatever Bri or Rog do with Queen.
So if he doesn't bother to make any kind of contact, why should Bri or Rog have to say anything about John? Isn't that what John wants.
Peace,
Adam.