Hey guys. I have a few questions for drummers here...
1) What kind of tension does Roger use on his pedal?
2) In the Tribute concert, what was the black bar that Roger had by his floor toms?
Yes I have checked Queen Concerts, but it doesnt talk about them.
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I think that black bar did the sort of clicks for Under Pressure... I could be wrong though, Im not a drummer!
You should think about putting a band together with Johnny Knoxville.....you seem like you're made for each other.
You should think about putting a band together with Johnny Knoxville.....you seem like you're made for each other.
Man at least I know how to tune and work with a guitar. Ive been playing for 5 years. Im just asking those questions so I know how his bass is. I was just curious and unlike Knoxville, I know how to work an instrument.
well if you listen to the song Hereos on the tribute gig, u hear it more or less go "bang", not sure wot it is, and im unsure on the tenion on his pedal. i expect fairly tight to give a harder beat, and a louder bang. im a drummer so thats wot i twud think, not a pro drummer but new and learning
The black bar is simply e-drums. Hit it and you get the programmed sound. Like a pad.
Tensions varies, the same as Roger hitting the cymbals. It depends on what he wants to emphasize. Normally bass drum is tight.
Tensions varies, the same as Roger hitting the cymbals. It depends on what he wants to emphasize. Normally bass drum is tight.
FightFromTheInside,
When you say "tension", what are you refering to? The pedal or the bassdrum head?
There are not many footage of Roger's pedals
over the years. In fact, only a few years ago I discovered that in the Magic Tour he used a double bassdrum pedal! (It came useful to do for instance that drum fill in the end of Tie Your Mother Down). In the 2005 tour, he also uses a double bass drum pedal. You get to hear that a lot in his drum solo.
Anyway, the tension one uses is not important, because it is adapted to each individual. So, even if you use the same tension as Roger, perhaps you would have the same "mean", but not the same "end". My advice would be, try many tensions playing a song and see what suits you better.
As for those black things, I suppose they are e-drum pads. They did not sound good to me, but at least not as awfull as the drums in the Works Tour! LOL
Hope this helps! ;)
Nevermind the jokes from blokes, if you have doubts, share them!
When you say "tension", what are you refering to? The pedal or the bassdrum head?
There are not many footage of Roger's pedals
over the years. In fact, only a few years ago I discovered that in the Magic Tour he used a double bassdrum pedal! (It came useful to do for instance that drum fill in the end of Tie Your Mother Down). In the 2005 tour, he also uses a double bass drum pedal. You get to hear that a lot in his drum solo.
Anyway, the tension one uses is not important, because it is adapted to each individual. So, even if you use the same tension as Roger, perhaps you would have the same "mean", but not the same "end". My advice would be, try many tensions playing a song and see what suits you better.
As for those black things, I suppose they are e-drum pads. They did not sound good to me, but at least not as awfull as the drums in the Works Tour! LOL
Hope this helps! ;)
Nevermind the jokes from blokes, if you have doubts, share them!
the drum pads he used on the Works tour was similar to what he used on the Hot Space tour, only he programmed in different sounds, cos in 84/85 Roger was experimenting with different sounds so he was not likely to use the sounds off Hot Space as cool as they did sound, and i sort of had a feeling the black bars was an e-drum pad. Looks weird but in my opinion doesnt give off a loud enough sound. you can barely hear it. Thats why i thought at first just a black bar that makes a banging noise when you hit it. :S
I bought a Queen book recently, that "new" one called The Early Years (actually a pretty decent book, in my opinion anyway). In it, it has quotes from Brian and Tim talking about Roger using a double bass-drum set up and said he was awesome on it, yet he never really ever used it again after that, least not for any recordings. Wonder why? I'd like to see it done, especially by a rock n roll drummer like Rog who'd use it to fit the song rather than just to show off.
I think Roger used a double kick in the I Want It All video but I still can't figure out if he used it on the track itself. At least in the fast section of the song. I've been playing for 30 years and can't figure this one out but if I had to guess he's using a single kick on the track.
Sounds like a single kick to me, with good technique.
Maybe these would be interesting:
http://sebastian.queenconcerts.com/m-galleries.html
http://queenconcerts.com/index.php?section=information&action=instruments
http://sebastian.queenconcerts.com/m-galleries.html
http://queenconcerts.com/index.php?section=information&action=instruments
Actually, this turned out to be a great post to discuss. Personally, I don't like what the 80's stood for. I consider them to be the Dark Ages of Music when it comes to quality, specially if we're talking about rhythm sections.
Yes, Queen were keen on experimenting new stuff... and you have distintive electronic drums in The Works and A Kind Of Magic albuns, but also (not so distintive) on The Miracle and Innuendo.
Speaking of The Miracle, we see Roger in the video of I Want It All with two bassdrums... I, like you, share the opinion that one bass drum was used in the studio... or none, that is, they programmed the drums, instaed of playing it.
There are songs in these two albuns (Miracle, Innuendo and even Made In Heaven) where acustic drums are mixed with GOOD programmed ones, so good that it confuses us.
For instance, The Invisible Man and Breakthru have programmed, not played drums. That goes also for the Bass. (the bass line in these tracks is keyboard bass, only the solo when the train enters the tunnel is a real bass).
That does not mean that Roger could do more complicated patterns, but drum programming made things much easier and faster...
Yes, Queen were keen on experimenting new stuff... and you have distintive electronic drums in The Works and A Kind Of Magic albuns, but also (not so distintive) on The Miracle and Innuendo.
Speaking of The Miracle, we see Roger in the video of I Want It All with two bassdrums... I, like you, share the opinion that one bass drum was used in the studio... or none, that is, they programmed the drums, instaed of playing it.
There are songs in these two albuns (Miracle, Innuendo and even Made In Heaven) where acustic drums are mixed with GOOD programmed ones, so good that it confuses us.
For instance, The Invisible Man and Breakthru have programmed, not played drums. That goes also for the Bass. (the bass line in these tracks is keyboard bass, only the solo when the train enters the tunnel is a real bass).
That does not mean that Roger could do more complicated patterns, but drum programming made things much easier and faster...
Well the thing is, I use a double pedal too, and I actually have it on a very loose setting for my pedal. I just want to get the tuning on my toms the way he has them on the WWRY concert. Basically my set up now is the way he had his set in 77/78. With the timbales and the second smaller set. Ive always wondered about his tuning but a lot of people dont know about it which sucks.
Well im gettin a drum set and i want mine really to look like the set he had at Live Aid 85. I thought they were pretty good except the sound was a tiny bit naff!