[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Most catholics adhere to something called "cafeteria catholicism", where they pick and choose which parts of the faith they agree with. The number of people who agree with every teaching of the church is decreasing by the day. It's been decreasing since the birth of modern science. [/QUOTE]
Yes most Catholics do adhere to 'cafeteria catholicism', but they still see the Pope as an
icon, my argument is that if he was 'so out of touch with the rest of the world' then why are these millions of people still seeing him as an inspiration? Surely if he was so out of touch with reality they wouldn't see him in such a high esteem? The Pope is more in touch with the world than you think. For example, here are some recent quotes by Pope Benedict on other faiths.
"Yet peace is also a duty to which all peoples must be committed, especially those who profess to belong to religious traditions,"
"I express my appreciation for the growth of dialogue between Muslims and Christians, both at the local and international level."
"I assure you the Church wants to continue building bridges of friendship with the followers of all religions, in order to seek the true good of every person and of society as a whole."
And the Pope isn't himself the Catholic Church, millions of Catholics around the world also respect other people's beliefs and traditions.
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Ok, i am a Catholic and i dont exactly revere him as an "icon"... i mean he is the leader of all the catholic churches... but honestly, its just another position, IMO anyways. However, it was detremental to the world with the loss of Pope John Paul II because he did do many great things. And i think we could maybe open the papacy to a more open minded person.
But as previously mentioned beautifully, that the Bible is indeed outdated in many fashions.
It is my personal belief that God put all of us with differences on purpose, gays, choice of religion, skin color, gender etc are meant to teach us tolerence since God did create all of us. And if you're a good person, it shouldnt matter anything else, at least thats how i feel about people. Id love to get to know anyone and everyone if i could, thats how ill decide if i like you or not.
And i think its outrageous that with the shortage of Catholic clergy that the pope is going to deny Gay people the right to become priests... isnt that rather contradictory since priests are celibate (sp?) anyways??? what does it matter, in that case its rather irrelevant isnt it?? If they want to give their lives to God, you want to tell them no because they may have thought sexually about Brad Pitt, for example, at one point?? Wait excuse me, theyll be allowed to become a priest after 3 years w/o homoerotic thoughts or something like that... How will you check that??? Tell me thats not out of touch with reality.
But as previously mentioned beautifully, that the Bible is indeed outdated in many fashions.
It is my personal belief that God put all of us with differences on purpose, gays, choice of religion, skin color, gender etc are meant to teach us tolerence since God did create all of us. And if you're a good person, it shouldnt matter anything else, at least thats how i feel about people. Id love to get to know anyone and everyone if i could, thats how ill decide if i like you or not.
And i think its outrageous that with the shortage of Catholic clergy that the pope is going to deny Gay people the right to become priests... isnt that rather contradictory since priests are celibate (sp?) anyways??? what does it matter, in that case its rather irrelevant isnt it?? If they want to give their lives to God, you want to tell them no because they may have thought sexually about Brad Pitt, for example, at one point?? Wait excuse me, theyll be allowed to become a priest after 3 years w/o homoerotic thoughts or something like that... How will you check that??? Tell me thats not out of touch with reality.
Please, just read my signature
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Asterik wrote: [/QUOTENAME]If it is it just shows how out-of date,prejudiced and irrelevant this Pope is.[/QUOTE]
Out-of date: He may be out-of date socially and culturally as we define it in our generation, but for Catholocism, and what he represents (or tries to represent), he is merely interpreting his beliefs on the most extreme, something that is sacred to him and many of the followers, and HAS been "sacred" for so many years.
Prejudiced: Well, to me, I accept everyone for what they are, who they are, and what they choose to believe, even if I think it's a bit of horseshit (i.e. anti-gay; how stupid). What seems like prejudice to us is just an interpretation of the bible itself. Meh...to each their own.
Irrelevant: Try telling that to the hardcore Catholics out there.
Cheers
Out-of date: He may be out-of date socially and culturally as we define it in our generation, but for Catholocism, and what he represents (or tries to represent), he is merely interpreting his beliefs on the most extreme, something that is sacred to him and many of the followers, and HAS been "sacred" for so many years.
Prejudiced: Well, to me, I accept everyone for what they are, who they are, and what they choose to believe, even if I think it's a bit of horseshit (i.e. anti-gay; how stupid). What seems like prejudice to us is just an interpretation of the bible itself. Meh...to each their own.
Irrelevant: Try telling that to the hardcore Catholics out there.
Cheers
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Please, just read my signature
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."[/QUOTE]
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Please, just read my signature
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's silly, and stupid.
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's silly, and stupid.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Please, just read my signature
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's silly, and stupid.[/QUOTE]
That's the point of it-to be silly.
Cheers
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's silly, and stupid.[/QUOTE]
That's the point of it-to be silly.
Cheers
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]LadyMoonshineDown wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Please, just read my signature
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's silly, and stupid.[/QUOTE]
That's the point of it-to be silly.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
The point of it is to make light of an issue that has created conflict since its beginning.
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's silly, and stupid.[/QUOTE]
That's the point of it-to be silly.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
The point of it is to make light of an issue that has created conflict since its beginning.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]LadyMoonshineDown wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Please, just read my signature
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's silly, and stupid.[/QUOTE]
That's the point of it-to be silly.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
The point of it is to make light of an issue that has created conflict since its beginning.[/QUOTE]
Or as I said before-
To be silly. Rawr! ;)
Cheers
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's silly, and stupid.[/QUOTE]
That's the point of it-to be silly.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
The point of it is to make light of an issue that has created conflict since its beginning.[/QUOTE]
Or as I said before-
To be silly. Rawr! ;)
Cheers
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]LadyMoonshineDown wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Please, just read my signature
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's silly, and stupid.[/QUOTE]
That's the point of it-to be silly.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
The point of it is to make light of an issue that has created conflict since its beginning.[/QUOTE]
I know - I enjoyed it. Yet still, it doesn't resolve anything pertinent to this discussion.
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's silly, and stupid.[/QUOTE]
That's the point of it-to be silly.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
The point of it is to make light of an issue that has created conflict since its beginning.[/QUOTE]
I know - I enjoyed it. Yet still, it doesn't resolve anything pertinent to this discussion.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]LadyMoonshineDown wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Please, just read my signature
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's silly, and stupid.[/QUOTE]
That's the point of it-to be silly.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
The point of it is to make light of an issue that has created conflict since its beginning.[/QUOTE]
I know - I enjoyed it. Yet still, it doesn't resolve anything pertinent to this discussion.[/QUOTE]
It means look past religion. It is not your place to challenge another's religion. In fact, all religions and cultures have so many messed up things, that for the good of all should be destroyed.
Although there is one good culture- Bacteria
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; give a man religion and he'll starve himself to death praying for a fish."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's silly, and stupid.[/QUOTE]
That's the point of it-to be silly.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
The point of it is to make light of an issue that has created conflict since its beginning.[/QUOTE]
I know - I enjoyed it. Yet still, it doesn't resolve anything pertinent to this discussion.[/QUOTE]
It means look past religion. It is not your place to challenge another's religion. In fact, all religions and cultures have so many messed up things, that for the good of all should be destroyed.
Although there is one good culture- Bacteria
him declaring Queen evil is maybe because Freddie had AIDS & some fellow must have explained him recently that you get AIDS because of having sex usually... then he was explained what sex is & he got so angry at the 'unholiness' he declared them evil. As for the eagles, he didn't like eagles...
However, I think it might boost the sales of Queen stuff cuz many teenage losers think whatever declared evil is very cool & anarchist & all... for all I know the pope may be paid by Queen itself to say that.
a joke on the pope: 'A man once approached the pope & asked: "I am from Venky's chicken. If you convince the council to change from 'our bread & water' to 'Our chicken & water' in the bible, I will pay you 80 Billion bucks". The pope takes out his cellphone & calls the council, "Tell wonder bread we will no longer renew their contract."
However, I think it might boost the sales of Queen stuff cuz many teenage losers think whatever declared evil is very cool & anarchist & all... for all I know the pope may be paid by Queen itself to say that.
a joke on the pope: 'A man once approached the pope & asked: "I am from Venky's chicken. If you convince the council to change from 'our bread & water' to 'Our chicken & water' in the bible, I will pay you 80 Billion bucks". The pope takes out his cellphone & calls the council, "Tell wonder bread we will no longer renew their contract."
LMAO about above posters joke!!
But how many high religious officals have exactly approved of rock n roll music.
But how many high religious officals have exactly approved of rock n roll music.
Who cares. We could look at every race, color or creed and pick out things that would be reason for their destruction. I'll bash my own religion for you all-
Protestant: Founded when Martin Luther turned his back on the people following him and joined with several german princes.
Catholic: Judging by the continual sex offences, the vatican laws might need a tune up.
Point being, no culture is perfect. No culture is completly bad either.
Wait, I was wrong. The only perfect culture is yeast
Protestant: Founded when Martin Luther turned his back on the people following him and joined with several german princes.
Catholic: Judging by the continual sex offences, the vatican laws might need a tune up.
Point being, no culture is perfect. No culture is completly bad either.
Wait, I was wrong. The only perfect culture is yeast
I'm rather appalled at the response to a vague speculation about an article. Show us an exact quote.