[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]April Lady05 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Third: Queen has no aggression, rudeness, pornography or obscenity in the lyrics, they've never had a Marylin Manson-like image or so. I don't think they've ever set a bad example to the youth, so what's the matter?[/QUOTE]
I seem to recall a lesbian-bondage poster for A Night At the Opera somewhere on here a number of months ago.
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http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/060101/w010112.html
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/01/12/Pope-abortion-060112.html
It's hard to believe that these articles contain things said by the same person. While I don't agree with the first article as a whole, it is overall very positive and encouraging. The second one is just simply antiquitous and irrelavant.
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/01/12/Pope-abortion-060112.html
It's hard to believe that these articles contain things said by the same person. While I don't agree with the first article as a whole, it is overall very positive and encouraging. The second one is just simply antiquitous and irrelavant.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=black>Andy<font color=red>38 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yawn........
If you believe anything Rolling Stone tells you, i think you may need help.
Even if you are Christian or non Christian, the Pope is a symbol of peace, i'd rather follow him than the likes of Tony Blair or George W. Bush.[/QUOTE]
Well said;)
Hello from Rai ;)
If you believe anything Rolling Stone tells you, i think you may need help.
Even if you are Christian or non Christian, the Pope is a symbol of peace, i'd rather follow him than the likes of Tony Blair or George W. Bush.[/QUOTE]
Well said;)
Hello from Rai ;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]rockyracoon wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The comment was made by the pope when he was Cardinal Ratzinger, and was made many years ago. He was doing his job, merely pointing out some of the evil influences in rock & roll. And let's face it, a few of Queen's songs include lyrics that are sexually suggestive and promote promiscuity, and are therefore inconsistent with basic Christian ideology. But having personally met this pope (when he was Cardinal Ratzinger), and his predecessor Pope John Paul II, I assure you he has much bigger issues to deal with than music he may find offensive.
Although I am non-Catholic, and yet a devout Christian, I suggest you cut the pope some slack. The Christian world recognizes the pope as a symbol of peace and as the face of the Christian world, which has more than a billion believers/followers. (Significantly larger than Queen's fan-base, I might add.) In his role, the pope has a responsibility to communicate messages which he believes will improve the world rather than let it degenerate into abasement or into terminal warfare. And he's far from irrelevant. Who do you want to lead the world in providing moral and spiritual guidance? Britney Spears? Mick Jagger? Michael Jackson??
As we enter the Christmas holiday, let's work toward peace on earth rather than badmouthing and denigrating those who may not be Queen fans.
And may the music of Queen continue to elevate our souls and fill us with love.
Merry Christmas to all.
as Queen said,"Peace on earth and end to war..."
Hello from Rai;)
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Although I am non-Catholic, and yet a devout Christian, I suggest you cut the pope some slack. The Christian world recognizes the pope as a symbol of peace and as the face of the Christian world, which has more than a billion believers/followers. (Significantly larger than Queen's fan-base, I might add.) In his role, the pope has a responsibility to communicate messages which he believes will improve the world rather than let it degenerate into abasement or into terminal warfare. And he's far from irrelevant. Who do you want to lead the world in providing moral and spiritual guidance? Britney Spears? Mick Jagger? Michael Jackson??
As we enter the Christmas holiday, let's work toward peace on earth rather than badmouthing and denigrating those who may not be Queen fans.
And may the music of Queen continue to elevate our souls and fill us with love.
Merry Christmas to all.
as Queen said,"Peace on earth and end to war..."
Hello from Rai;)
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=black>Andy<font color=red>38 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=black>Andy<font color=red>38 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Surely there are other, more sensible things to criticise than a person who wants us all to love and make peace.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and on one condition: That we all become catholic. That man is beyond out of touch with the modern world.
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If he is so out of touch with the modern world, then why does he have millions of people throughout the world respecting him and seeing him as an icon? Does that mean all these people are out of touch with reality too? It may surprise some of you to hear this, but, the Catholic Church respects other religious traditions and beliefs that exist throughout the world, even if doesn't agree with what they believe in or in some cases, stands for. I would also like to add on another note that all this Catholic Church/Christian/Religion bashing could be offending some people.[/QUOTE]
Well said,Andy38;)
Hello from Rai;)
Yeah, and on one condition: That we all become catholic. That man is beyond out of touch with the modern world.
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If he is so out of touch with the modern world, then why does he have millions of people throughout the world respecting him and seeing him as an icon? Does that mean all these people are out of touch with reality too? It may surprise some of you to hear this, but, the Catholic Church respects other religious traditions and beliefs that exist throughout the world, even if doesn't agree with what they believe in or in some cases, stands for. I would also like to add on another note that all this Catholic Church/Christian/Religion bashing could be offending some people.[/QUOTE]
Well said,Andy38;)
Hello from Rai;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=black>Andy<font color=red>38 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kdj2hot wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][/QUOTENAME]knebworth wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][/QUOTENAME]JamieSureWould wrote:
the Pope was a Nazi
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hey jamie! i am personally very interessted to know where you´ve got this news from.[/QUOTE]
He may not have been a nazi but he just turned a blind eye to the whole death camp, toxic baths, starvation, torture thing that went on. I heard the nazi's let him study his theology and didn't force him to be involved and I heard he kept watch or something to that extent. I don't knpow which one is true but in fairness I'll just assume he didn't participate.[/QUOTE]
Oh that's right, as a young child/man (i think he was approx. 12 when the war started) he could stop the Nazi's! And he was part of the Nazi Youth's because it was law, if he or his parents resisted there would have been serious trouble, aren't you aware a lot of Germans lived in fear under Nazi rule?[/QUOTE]
Exactly;)
Hello from Rai;)
the Pope was a Nazi
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hey jamie! i am personally very interessted to know where you´ve got this news from.[/QUOTE]
He may not have been a nazi but he just turned a blind eye to the whole death camp, toxic baths, starvation, torture thing that went on. I heard the nazi's let him study his theology and didn't force him to be involved and I heard he kept watch or something to that extent. I don't knpow which one is true but in fairness I'll just assume he didn't participate.[/QUOTE]
Oh that's right, as a young child/man (i think he was approx. 12 when the war started) he could stop the Nazi's! And he was part of the Nazi Youth's because it was law, if he or his parents resisted there would have been serious trouble, aren't you aware a lot of Germans lived in fear under Nazi rule?[/QUOTE]
Exactly;)
Hello from Rai;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=black>Andy<font color=red>38 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=black>Andy<font color=red>38 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Surely there are other, more sensible things to criticise than a person who wants us all to love and make peace.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and on one condition: That we all become catholic. That man is beyond out of touch with the modern world.
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If he is so out of touch with the modern world, then why does he have millions of people throughout the world respecting him and seeing him as an icon? Does that mean all these people are out of touch with reality too? It may surprise some of you to hear this, but, the Catholic Church respects other religious traditions and beliefs that exist throughout the world, even if doesn't agree with what they believe in or in some cases, stands for. I would also like to add on another note that all this Catholic Church/Christian/Religion bashing could be offending some people.[/QUOTE]
You all should listen to gnomo and Andy. It's a shame that we still have so much ignorance in this world, but this time it isn't coming from the Church.[/QUOTE]
Yes I agree;)
Hello from Rai;)
Yeah, and on one condition: That we all become catholic. That man is beyond out of touch with the modern world.
[/QUOTE]
If he is so out of touch with the modern world, then why does he have millions of people throughout the world respecting him and seeing him as an icon? Does that mean all these people are out of touch with reality too? It may surprise some of you to hear this, but, the Catholic Church respects other religious traditions and beliefs that exist throughout the world, even if doesn't agree with what they believe in or in some cases, stands for. I would also like to add on another note that all this Catholic Church/Christian/Religion bashing could be offending some people.[/QUOTE]
You all should listen to gnomo and Andy. It's a shame that we still have so much ignorance in this world, but this time it isn't coming from the Church.[/QUOTE]
Yes I agree;)
Hello from Rai;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]rockyracoon wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Fortunately there are several people on this board who understand the pope's value to the world.
Yet unfortunately, I remain deeply disappointed with the majority. Near the bottom of the first page on this topic, I posted a message in which I tried to put the pope's remarks in the proper perspective. Nonetheless, the majority has chosen to hurl insults, invectives, and expletives. I previously thought Queen had fans with discriminating taste and were above the run-of-the-mill rock & roll crowd. Obviously not so.
For those who perceive the role of the pope to be irrelevant, you might want to turn the calendar back 15 to 20 years and see how Pope John Paul II, nearly single-handedly, brought down the Soviet Union and liberated Eastern Europe. Let's ask eastern europeans to tell us of the pope's irrelevance.
The pope currently has his hands full with issues such as the worldwide shortage of priests, the financial condition of the church, gay marriage, abortion, pedophilia in the American church, etc. You'll have to trust me on this one.....Queen's music hasn't made it to his radar screen.[/QUOTE]
You have to remember,Rocky,that a large portion of the people on here lately are not true fans,but merely children who don't really understand the ways of the world just yet;)
Hello from Rai;)
Yet unfortunately, I remain deeply disappointed with the majority. Near the bottom of the first page on this topic, I posted a message in which I tried to put the pope's remarks in the proper perspective. Nonetheless, the majority has chosen to hurl insults, invectives, and expletives. I previously thought Queen had fans with discriminating taste and were above the run-of-the-mill rock & roll crowd. Obviously not so.
For those who perceive the role of the pope to be irrelevant, you might want to turn the calendar back 15 to 20 years and see how Pope John Paul II, nearly single-handedly, brought down the Soviet Union and liberated Eastern Europe. Let's ask eastern europeans to tell us of the pope's irrelevance.
The pope currently has his hands full with issues such as the worldwide shortage of priests, the financial condition of the church, gay marriage, abortion, pedophilia in the American church, etc. You'll have to trust me on this one.....Queen's music hasn't made it to his radar screen.[/QUOTE]
You have to remember,Rocky,that a large portion of the people on here lately are not true fans,but merely children who don't really understand the ways of the world just yet;)
Hello from Rai;)
the pope sux liek hell, along with rolling stone magazine.
"No. No, it's the doctrine of original sin. You see, we're all born sinful, except for Jesus who was perfect of course. And he was sent to save us. But how could he save us unless we're sinning? So we have to go on sinning in order to be saved and go to Heaven. That's how Christianity works. That's why it suits so many people." - Charlie McManus (Robbie Coltrane) in Nuns On The Run
So I figure listening to Hot Space is worth about 12 Hail Mary's?
So I figure listening to Hot Space is worth about 12 Hail Mary's?