[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]yamaha wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You must be incredibly naive to believe that the United States is inferior because of limited personal freedoms. Americans have the freedom to do whatever they wish as long as it does not infringe on the rights of other people. If the American government is so unjust as some seem to imply, then why is there so much information and new available to the public? Just to note, I have never been denied the right to do anything that I wanted to do as an American.[/QUOTE]
The FCC is run by a bunch of idiots who are easily influenced by religious zealots. Mainly because a lot of people at the FCC are ultra-conservative christians. These are the people who are turning America into the next Taliban, because they're allowing their religious beliefs to enforce what people should and shouldn't read, listen, or watch. Just look at the huge mess they created around the Janet Jackson titie pop at the Super Bowl. We only saw her boobie for 2 seconds, but then again these are the same people who seem to be OK with us invading a country and starting a war based on lies.
I do agree that indecency should be controlled, but there should be a time and place for everything. What pisses me off the most is that these morons keep whinning about what's on TV, but yet none of them want to go through their TV manuals and find how to block certain channels or programs with a V-Chip.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
The FCC is run by a bunch of idiots who are easily influenced by religious zealots. Mainly because a lot of people at the FCC are ultra-conservative christians. These are the people who are turning America into the next Taliban, because they're allowing their religious beliefs to enforce what people should and shouldn't read, listen, or watch. Just look at the huge mess they created around the Janet Jackson titie pop at the Super Bowl. We only saw her boobie for 2 seconds, but then again these are the same people who seem to be OK with us invading a country and starting a war based on lies.[/QUOTE]
I can't speak for other people, but I'm not seeing where the FCC is becoming overly concerned with the daily lives of Americans. The Janet Jackson thing was a total crock of shit anyway. Regardless of who is at fault for the tit on live tv, it was the wrong venue. The Super Bowl is entended to be a program that can be viewed by anyone.
A majority of the time, the FCC acts on complaints logged by the public. Really, what the FCC does is set standard for decency and regulates certain media that a portion of the public sees as offensive. It's not to say though, that the FCC forbids obscene (yet legal) material from being created and distributed.
I haven't heard anything more than words from liberal figures speaking about the leanings of those in the FCC. No examples or proof what so ever. The Iraq war and lies thing, now theres a can-o-worms. It really seemed odd to me that in the years after the first gulf war, the UN had been given the run around regarding weapons inspections. Sadaam was given up untill the day of the invasion to comply with the UN and allow full privelage to the inspectors. It seemed obvious the Sadaam was hiding something. Basically, Sadaam had said, "you may search, here, here, and there, but you only have untill next week, and if you look anywhere else you will be shot". I never did trust Sadaam, and I will continue believing that he did have WMDs. I suspect that they had been moved out of the country, or otherwise destroyed. It would not surprise me in the least if WMDs are found in neighboring countries. So what do you think about the situation with Iran, nuclear ambitions, their current leader?
[QUOTE]I do agree that indecency should be controlled, but there should be a time and place for everything. What pisses me off the most is that these morons keep whinning about what's on TV, but yet none of them want to go through their TV manuals and find how to block certain channels or programs with a V-Chip.[/QUOTE]
I seewhere you are coming from here. It's unfortunate that some people are so lazy. I would rather that children be taught about descency and morality. If parents stepped up to the plate in that way, much of this would be a non-issue.
The FCC is run by a bunch of idiots who are easily influenced by religious zealots. Mainly because a lot of people at the FCC are ultra-conservative christians. These are the people who are turning America into the next Taliban, because they're allowing their religious beliefs to enforce what people should and shouldn't read, listen, or watch. Just look at the huge mess they created around the Janet Jackson titie pop at the Super Bowl. We only saw her boobie for 2 seconds, but then again these are the same people who seem to be OK with us invading a country and starting a war based on lies.[/QUOTE]
I can't speak for other people, but I'm not seeing where the FCC is becoming overly concerned with the daily lives of Americans. The Janet Jackson thing was a total crock of shit anyway. Regardless of who is at fault for the tit on live tv, it was the wrong venue. The Super Bowl is entended to be a program that can be viewed by anyone.
A majority of the time, the FCC acts on complaints logged by the public. Really, what the FCC does is set standard for decency and regulates certain media that a portion of the public sees as offensive. It's not to say though, that the FCC forbids obscene (yet legal) material from being created and distributed.
I haven't heard anything more than words from liberal figures speaking about the leanings of those in the FCC. No examples or proof what so ever. The Iraq war and lies thing, now theres a can-o-worms. It really seemed odd to me that in the years after the first gulf war, the UN had been given the run around regarding weapons inspections. Sadaam was given up untill the day of the invasion to comply with the UN and allow full privelage to the inspectors. It seemed obvious the Sadaam was hiding something. Basically, Sadaam had said, "you may search, here, here, and there, but you only have untill next week, and if you look anywhere else you will be shot". I never did trust Sadaam, and I will continue believing that he did have WMDs. I suspect that they had been moved out of the country, or otherwise destroyed. It would not surprise me in the least if WMDs are found in neighboring countries. So what do you think about the situation with Iran, nuclear ambitions, their current leader?
[QUOTE]I do agree that indecency should be controlled, but there should be a time and place for everything. What pisses me off the most is that these morons keep whinning about what's on TV, but yet none of them want to go through their TV manuals and find how to block certain channels or programs with a V-Chip.[/QUOTE]
I seewhere you are coming from here. It's unfortunate that some people are so lazy. I would rather that children be taught about descency and morality. If parents stepped up to the plate in that way, much of this would be a non-issue.
From my own point of view nothing justifies killing innocent people. Regardless of the quanity, one is already way too many. The situation with Iran is sickening, but an invasion of any nation will result in nothing less than another bloodbath where once again the innocent will take the worst part. As a result of this, hatred will strongly motivate those who witnessed all the chaos into revenge against whatever nation had the intention of "liberating" their people. Which then will result into more hatred and thirst for revenge with the only intention of punishing those who were then trying to punish in the first place. It's a chain reaction that has no end.
There's so much hatred in this fucked up world, that all we can wait is for the worst to not happen. Our leaders spend so much time, money and energy thinking of ways how to harm and kill each other, that not for once they think about all the pain they cause.
There's so much hatred in this fucked up world, that all we can wait is for the worst to not happen. Our leaders spend so much time, money and energy thinking of ways how to harm and kill each other, that not for once they think about all the pain they cause.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=000000>Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE]Then why do you live here? Go move to Africa and then you'll know how good you have it.[/QUOTE]
Canada is a hell of a lot better than the US in many respects. How about any of the countries in Scandanavia? They all have their acts together. Can you even name the four countries that make up Scandanavia - without checking somewhere?[/QUOTE]
LMAO- good one. I don't think he can. I don't think he knows anything about ANY other country apart from Mighty America. And it's people like that who give Americans bad name- and I don't think it's fair.[/QUOTE]
I can name 3, Finland, Norway and Sweeden. The people who give Americans a bad name are the ones who try to pull off radical shit to prove their point.
Canada is a hell of a lot better than the US in many respects. How about any of the countries in Scandanavia? They all have their acts together. Can you even name the four countries that make up Scandanavia - without checking somewhere?[/QUOTE]
LMAO- good one. I don't think he can. I don't think he knows anything about ANY other country apart from Mighty America. And it's people like that who give Americans bad name- and I don't think it's fair.[/QUOTE]
I can name 3, Finland, Norway and Sweeden. The people who give Americans a bad name are the ones who try to pull off radical shit to prove their point.
I think documentaries like these only do great favours for Bush, when these ludicrous accusations are made against him, i think it offends so many Americans that his support will probably grow stronger as a result. I mean look at the amount of Americans that hate Michael Moore, he's looked upon by his fellow countrymen as Anti-American as a result of his President bashing.
Make note that i am reffering to the 9/11 situation and not the War in Iraq.
Make note that i am reffering to the 9/11 situation and not the War in Iraq.
It's totally unlikely that the American administration was behind the attacks. However, there are many questions left and we know that the government did not tell the truth about the events. This itself is bad enough. To lie about the worst attack on the American nation in peace times is inexcusable.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Bitch</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I can name 3, Finland, Norway and Sweeden. [/QUOTE]
Still missed one... Denmark is also a part of Scandinavia...
ACTUALLY- so is Iceland.
So we have already 5.
Funnily enough within Scandinavia three other self-governing areas are seen as own countries-
GREENLAND
FAROE ISLANDS
ALAND ISLANDS
I can name 3, Finland, Norway and Sweeden. [/QUOTE]
Still missed one... Denmark is also a part of Scandinavia...
ACTUALLY- so is Iceland.
So we have already 5.
Funnily enough within Scandinavia three other self-governing areas are seen as own countries-
GREENLAND
FAROE ISLANDS
ALAND ISLANDS
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Bitch</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=000000>Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE]Then why do you live here? Go move to Africa and then you'll know how good you have it.[/QUOTE]
Canada is a hell of a lot better than the US in many respects. How about any of the countries in Scandanavia? They all have their acts together. Can you even name the four countries that make up Scandanavia - without checking somewhere?[/QUOTE]
LMAO- good one. I don't think he can. I don't think he knows anything about ANY other country apart from Mighty America. And it's people like that who give Americans bad name- and I don't think it's fair.[/QUOTE]
I can name 3, Finland, Norway and Sweeden. The people who give Americans a bad name are the ones who try to pull off radical shit to prove their point.[/QUOTE]
Radical shit to prove their point? The only thing they prove is that you're like mr. Bush! "America is the best, I don't give a shit about the rest".
Canada is a hell of a lot better than the US in many respects. How about any of the countries in Scandanavia? They all have their acts together. Can you even name the four countries that make up Scandanavia - without checking somewhere?[/QUOTE]
LMAO- good one. I don't think he can. I don't think he knows anything about ANY other country apart from Mighty America. And it's people like that who give Americans bad name- and I don't think it's fair.[/QUOTE]
I can name 3, Finland, Norway and Sweeden. The people who give Americans a bad name are the ones who try to pull off radical shit to prove their point.[/QUOTE]
Radical shit to prove their point? The only thing they prove is that you're like mr. Bush! "America is the best, I don't give a shit about the rest".
No country is perfect. No government is perfect. No legislation is perfect. There may be instances of injustice everywhere, obviously including the US. But saying there is no freedom of speech in the US is so absurd it comes very close to insanity.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=000000>Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE]Then why do you live here? Go move to Africa and then you'll know how good you have it.[/QUOTE]
Canada is a hell of a lot better than the US in many respects. How about any of the countries in Scandanavia? They all have their acts together. Can you even name the four countries that make up Scandanavia - without checking somewhere?[/QUOTE]
LMAO- good one. I don't think he can. I don't think he knows anything about ANY other country apart from Mighty America. And it's people like that who give Americans bad name- and I don't think it's fair.[/QUOTE]
OK, but if you 2 know everything while obviously he knows nothing, how come you spelled Scandanavia instead of Scandinavia?? Maybe you should learn your spelling before telling people they don't know their geography.
Canada is a hell of a lot better than the US in many respects. How about any of the countries in Scandanavia? They all have their acts together. Can you even name the four countries that make up Scandanavia - without checking somewhere?[/QUOTE]
LMAO- good one. I don't think he can. I don't think he knows anything about ANY other country apart from Mighty America. And it's people like that who give Americans bad name- and I don't think it's fair.[/QUOTE]
OK, but if you 2 know everything while obviously he knows nothing, how come you spelled Scandanavia instead of Scandinavia?? Maybe you should learn your spelling before telling people they don't know their geography.
As a non-US resident I fail to see why Michael Moore lives under a permanent death threat.
Could someone please explain to me why asking questions and being critical is considered as unpatriotic?
Surely it is possible to be both questioning and patriotic - or else, America would never have moved on beyond McCarthyism?
Here, in the UK, I guess Tony Blair would expect the same blind loyalty to State, but unfortunately for him, we have not yet marginalized, demonised or stigmatised those with dissenting voices.
In fact, isn’t it MORE patriotic to be critical – as from where I sit, both Stalinism and Maoism seem to have been the only successful political solutions for the total annihilation of free political expression.
Could someone please explain to me why asking questions and being critical is considered as unpatriotic?
Surely it is possible to be both questioning and patriotic - or else, America would never have moved on beyond McCarthyism?
Here, in the UK, I guess Tony Blair would expect the same blind loyalty to State, but unfortunately for him, we have not yet marginalized, demonised or stigmatised those with dissenting voices.
In fact, isn’t it MORE patriotic to be critical – as from where I sit, both Stalinism and Maoism seem to have been the only successful political solutions for the total annihilation of free political expression.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fairy wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=000000>Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE]Then why do you live here? Go move to Africa and then you'll know how good you have it.[/QUOTE]
Canada is a hell of a lot better than the US in many respects. How about any of the countries in Scandanavia? They all have their acts together. Can you even name the four countries that make up Scandanavia - without checking somewhere?[/QUOTE]
LMAO- good one. I don't think he can. I don't think he knows anything about ANY other country apart from Mighty America. And it's people like that who give Americans bad name- and I don't think it's fair.[/QUOTE]
OK, but if you 2 know everything while obviously he knows nothing, how come you spelled Scandanavia instead of Scandinavia?? Maybe you should learn your spelling before telling people they don't know their geography.
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Why do you quote me if it's BOB who misspelled the word?
And why you take such a pathetic cheap shot when we both know it was nothing but a simple typing error!!!?
*rolls eyes*
Neither I (nor Bob) claim to know everything- it's QoW who does and we're trying to tell him that he doesn't... I don't post in here countless posts saying "POLAND RULEZ" or "UK'S the BEST" or similar crap- yet half of his posts are the ones saying "America's the best". Gets annoying after a while. And all I'm saying is that it's EXACTLY this kind of talk and this kind of people who give Americans bad name. At the same time I added that it's NOT FAIR- I know few Americans and they were really cool and none of them was giving me this "we're superior" bullshit...
I'm not anti-American- far from it!!! That's exactly why he's annoying me so much!
Canada is a hell of a lot better than the US in many respects. How about any of the countries in Scandanavia? They all have their acts together. Can you even name the four countries that make up Scandanavia - without checking somewhere?[/QUOTE]
LMAO- good one. I don't think he can. I don't think he knows anything about ANY other country apart from Mighty America. And it's people like that who give Americans bad name- and I don't think it's fair.[/QUOTE]
OK, but if you 2 know everything while obviously he knows nothing, how come you spelled Scandanavia instead of Scandinavia?? Maybe you should learn your spelling before telling people they don't know their geography.
[/QUOTE]
Why do you quote me if it's BOB who misspelled the word?
And why you take such a pathetic cheap shot when we both know it was nothing but a simple typing error!!!?
*rolls eyes*
Neither I (nor Bob) claim to know everything- it's QoW who does and we're trying to tell him that he doesn't... I don't post in here countless posts saying "POLAND RULEZ" or "UK'S the BEST" or similar crap- yet half of his posts are the ones saying "America's the best". Gets annoying after a while. And all I'm saying is that it's EXACTLY this kind of talk and this kind of people who give Americans bad name. At the same time I added that it's NOT FAIR- I know few Americans and they were really cool and none of them was giving me this "we're superior" bullshit...
I'm not anti-American- far from it!!! That's exactly why he's annoying me so much!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=000000>Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fairy wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=000000>Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE]Then why do you live here? Go move to Africa and then you'll know how good you have it.[/QUOTE]
Canada is a hell of a lot better than the US in many respects. How about any of the countries in Scandanavia? They all have their acts together. Can you even name the four countries that make up Scandanavia - without checking somewhere?[/QUOTE]
LMAO- good one. I don't think he can. I don't think he knows anything about ANY other country apart from Mighty America. And it's people like that who give Americans bad name- and I don't think it's fair.[/QUOTE]
OK, but if you 2 know everything while obviously he knows nothing, how come you spelled Scandanavia instead of Scandinavia?? Maybe you should learn your spelling before telling people they don't know their geography.
[/QUOTE]
Why do you quote me if it's BOB who misspelled the word?
And why you take such a pathetic cheap shot when we both know it was nothing but a simple typing error!!!?
*rolls eyes*
Neither I (nor Bob) claim to know everything- it's QoW who does and we're trying to tell him that he doesn't... I don't post in here countless posts saying "POLAND RULEZ" or "UK'S the BEST" or similar crap- yet half of his posts are the ones saying "America's the best". Gets annoying after a while. And all I'm saying is that it's EXACTLY this kind of talk and this kind of people who give Americans bad name. At the same time I added that it's NOT FAIR- I know few Americans and they were really cool and none of them was giving me this "we're superior" bullshit...
I'm not anti-American- far from it!!! That's exactly why he's annoying me so much!
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I quoted your post because this way I could address both of you. Of course I know it was just a typo. It was just a way to make you 2 a bit humble.
It's not nice to tell someone he doesn't know anything just because his ideas are different from yours.
He keeps saying America is great, OK. It may get annoying, but don't you thinkhe maybe he's doing this as a reaction to the hundreds of Anti-American posts on this board? I think so.
QueenOfWrestling can stand up for himself, he doesn't need me to defend him. It's just I feel the way he does. I sure see the flaws in our societies, but why so many who live in the West and actually enjoy all the good it can offer will keep insulting it is a mystery to me. Like saying there's no freedom of speech in the US. I mean, guys!!!!!!!
And Fenderek, it's true, you don't say Poland is great all the time. But imagine there were posts full with hatred for Poland every day.
Canada is a hell of a lot better than the US in many respects. How about any of the countries in Scandanavia? They all have their acts together. Can you even name the four countries that make up Scandanavia - without checking somewhere?[/QUOTE]
LMAO- good one. I don't think he can. I don't think he knows anything about ANY other country apart from Mighty America. And it's people like that who give Americans bad name- and I don't think it's fair.[/QUOTE]
OK, but if you 2 know everything while obviously he knows nothing, how come you spelled Scandanavia instead of Scandinavia?? Maybe you should learn your spelling before telling people they don't know their geography.
[/QUOTE]
Why do you quote me if it's BOB who misspelled the word?
And why you take such a pathetic cheap shot when we both know it was nothing but a simple typing error!!!?
*rolls eyes*
Neither I (nor Bob) claim to know everything- it's QoW who does and we're trying to tell him that he doesn't... I don't post in here countless posts saying "POLAND RULEZ" or "UK'S the BEST" or similar crap- yet half of his posts are the ones saying "America's the best". Gets annoying after a while. And all I'm saying is that it's EXACTLY this kind of talk and this kind of people who give Americans bad name. At the same time I added that it's NOT FAIR- I know few Americans and they were really cool and none of them was giving me this "we're superior" bullshit...
I'm not anti-American- far from it!!! That's exactly why he's annoying me so much!
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I quoted your post because this way I could address both of you. Of course I know it was just a typo. It was just a way to make you 2 a bit humble.
It's not nice to tell someone he doesn't know anything just because his ideas are different from yours.
He keeps saying America is great, OK. It may get annoying, but don't you thinkhe maybe he's doing this as a reaction to the hundreds of Anti-American posts on this board? I think so.
QueenOfWrestling can stand up for himself, he doesn't need me to defend him. It's just I feel the way he does. I sure see the flaws in our societies, but why so many who live in the West and actually enjoy all the good it can offer will keep insulting it is a mystery to me. Like saying there's no freedom of speech in the US. I mean, guys!!!!!!!
And Fenderek, it's true, you don't say Poland is great all the time. But imagine there were posts full with hatred for Poland every day.
"It seemed obvious the Sadaam was hiding something. Basically, Sadaam had said, "you may search, here, here, and there, but you only have untill next week, and if you look anywhere else you will be shot". I never did trust Sadaam, and I will continue believing that he did have WMDs. I suspect that they had been moved out of the country, or otherwise destroyed. It would not surprise me in the least if WMDs are found in neighboring countries. So what do you think about the situation with Iran, nuclear ambitions, their current leader?"
I tell you what I think about Iran - I do not want them to build the bomb. I do not want another nation to have nuclear weapons and I think Ahmadinejadis is a dangerous person.
But I also do not want India, Pakistan and Israel (neighbour countries of Iran) to have nuclear weapons but they do. I do not want North Korea to have the bomb but they do. Also, I do not want France, the UK, Russia and the USA to have nuclear weapons but they do.
The truth is that Iran never attacked another country in the past but in fact was attacked - for example by Iraq in the 1980s. The Iraq was supported by the USA as we all know. I cannot blame Iran to feel unsafe with 3 countries around them who have nuclear weapons and the USA as an invador in the neighbour country. The international community must give Iran security guarantees to make them stop their nuclear weapon programme. The UN must guarantee Iran that no other country - including the USA - will attack them under such cheap pretenses as described in the quoted post above.
I tell you what I think about Iran - I do not want them to build the bomb. I do not want another nation to have nuclear weapons and I think Ahmadinejadis is a dangerous person.
But I also do not want India, Pakistan and Israel (neighbour countries of Iran) to have nuclear weapons but they do. I do not want North Korea to have the bomb but they do. Also, I do not want France, the UK, Russia and the USA to have nuclear weapons but they do.
The truth is that Iran never attacked another country in the past but in fact was attacked - for example by Iraq in the 1980s. The Iraq was supported by the USA as we all know. I cannot blame Iran to feel unsafe with 3 countries around them who have nuclear weapons and the USA as an invador in the neighbour country. The international community must give Iran security guarantees to make them stop their nuclear weapon programme. The UN must guarantee Iran that no other country - including the USA - will attack them under such cheap pretenses as described in the quoted post above.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]As a non-US resident I fail to see why Michael Moore lives under a permanent death threat.
Could someone please explain to me why asking questions and being critical is considered as unpatriotic?
Surely it is possible to be both questioning and patriotic - or else, America would never have moved on beyond McCarthyism?[/QUOTE]
Ah John, you speak with such logic. Logic and US politics seldom mix these days.
Could someone please explain to me why asking questions and being critical is considered as unpatriotic?
Surely it is possible to be both questioning and patriotic - or else, America would never have moved on beyond McCarthyism?[/QUOTE]
Ah John, you speak with such logic. Logic and US politics seldom mix these days.