Hmm, maybe because he got more electoral votes?
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In just over 1-1/2 years, Matt goes from being cynical and hostile toward shock-umetaries to one who instantly believes shock-umentaries.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Bitch</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You people really have issues. You're taking a tragedy to a nation and making little games out of it. But now tell me, who provided support to the Allied Powers in WWI when Germany went on the offensive? I mean, dont credit the USA even though it was American soldiers using American weapons under a French commander. Or what about WWII, while the atomic bomb was not very ethical, it did save millions of lives that could have been lost in ground war. Not to mention that nuclear power became a staple short after. Then, what about the 1960's where the USA subsidized the French in their war against Vietnam? Although, it was never declared a "war", the USA put billions of dollars into supplying the French for their efforts which, however, were wasted. Then, during our tenure into the Vietnam Conflict, who welcomed the nomadic hmong people into our country who, now, 40 years later, are an asset to our culture? Yet, shortly after that, when an earthquake leveled 59 american cities, nobody came to help. Nobody helped even though every country with an airline excluding Russia flew AMERICAN planes. Forwarding about 20 years, Former President Jimmy Carter went around the world with his Habitat For Humanity project, building homes for the less fortunate. Then, after 9-11, the USA offered a 35 million dollar reward to helping capture the insurgents behind the terror attacks. Because the middle eastern governmets refused to take action, the US government was forced to intervene. Soon after, Saddam Hussien claimed to have chemical weapons but as soon as the secretary of defense said "Oh, really?" he changed his story. Now, the American soldiers are ridding the world of insurgents who would harm her people-
God Bless America[/QUOTE]
I think the issue here is to applaud the GOOD things America has done, and bring some criticism into the BAD things our own government does, because we all know that 3,000 innocent Americans would be alive today if it wasn't for own goverment fuckin' up things with their foreign policy.
While millions of dollars are being spent on aiding foreign nations on issues of poverty, illness, and hunger, there's still millions more being spent on funding international conflicts. Not to mention all the money that goes to the CIA to start even more international conflicts in the future.
Plus, all this fucked up foreign policy leads to aiding leaders who just because they're the enemies of our enemies, doesn't mean they should be our friends...
http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2003/02/rumsfeld-saddam.jpg
Just to quote this from Chappelle's Show:
- Negrodamus, how does George W. Bush know that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?
- Very simple, he knows Iraq has WMDs because he has the receipt.
God Bless America[/QUOTE]
I think the issue here is to applaud the GOOD things America has done, and bring some criticism into the BAD things our own government does, because we all know that 3,000 innocent Americans would be alive today if it wasn't for own goverment fuckin' up things with their foreign policy.
While millions of dollars are being spent on aiding foreign nations on issues of poverty, illness, and hunger, there's still millions more being spent on funding international conflicts. Not to mention all the money that goes to the CIA to start even more international conflicts in the future.
Plus, all this fucked up foreign policy leads to aiding leaders who just because they're the enemies of our enemies, doesn't mean they should be our friends...
http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2003/02/rumsfeld-saddam.jpg
Just to quote this from Chappelle's Show:
- Negrodamus, how does George W. Bush know that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?
- Very simple, he knows Iraq has WMDs because he has the receipt.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=green> M@tt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]This is no game...
I looked @ your profile...your 16 years old. The only thing you know is what mom and dad tell you. What FOX news tells you. Did you watch the video? Did you hear that there were NO WOMD?!?!?! Bin Laden had NOTHING to do with the Towers? God Bless America? You think He still can? No way in hell would he bless such a nation. Look around you dude.[/QUOTE]
I'm an old lady...34 years old, and I agree with him. EM EM EM...
I looked @ your profile...your 16 years old. The only thing you know is what mom and dad tell you. What FOX news tells you. Did you watch the video? Did you hear that there were NO WOMD?!?!?! Bin Laden had NOTHING to do with the Towers? God Bless America? You think He still can? No way in hell would he bless such a nation. Look around you dude.[/QUOTE]
I'm an old lady...34 years old, and I agree with him. EM EM EM...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=black>Andy<font color=red>38 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fairy wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hi there Mr.Jingles!
Did you hear Parma scored 1 to 1 with big Juventus????!!![/QUOTE]
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM[/QUOTE]
FORZA PARMA!!![/QUOTE]
Yes guys!!!!!
Actually there's a kind of conspiracy going on in Italian soccer...Referees are so open favoring Juventus it's shocking. Juventus got a penalty kick for no reason, but Delpiero missed it! Then Parma was denied a penalty kick....Sometimes it seems like it is all being planned beforehand... Hopefully it's not true.
Whatever...Forza Parma!
Did you hear Parma scored 1 to 1 with big Juventus????!!![/QUOTE]
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM[/QUOTE]
FORZA PARMA!!![/QUOTE]
Yes guys!!!!!
Actually there's a kind of conspiracy going on in Italian soccer...Referees are so open favoring Juventus it's shocking. Juventus got a penalty kick for no reason, but Delpiero missed it! Then Parma was denied a penalty kick....Sometimes it seems like it is all being planned beforehand... Hopefully it's not true.
Whatever...Forza Parma!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: Just to quote this from Chappelle's Show:
- Negrodamus, how does George W. Bush know that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?
- Very simple, he knows Iraq has WMDs because he has the receipt.[/QUOTE]
X) NICE
- Negrodamus, how does George W. Bush know that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?
- Very simple, he knows Iraq has WMDs because he has the receipt.[/QUOTE]
X) NICE
are you an american living in Italy or just an italian? Since you don't live here, I don't think that agreeing with a 16 year old punk know it all would be a good choice. But to each his own. Have you read the news or turned on your t.v. or just kept up on current, and not so current events as of late? say the last couple years or more?
are you an american living in Italy or just an italian? Since you don't live here, I don't think that agreeing with a 16 year old punk know it all would be a good choice. But to each his own. Have you read the news or turned on your t.v. or just kept up on current, and not so current events as of late? say the last couple years or more?
[QUOTE]Then why do you live here? Go move to Africa and then you'll know how good you have it.[/QUOTE]
Canada is a hell of a lot better than the US in many respects. How about any of the countries in Scandanavia? They all have their acts together. Can you even name the four countries that make up Scandanavia - without checking somewhere?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Bitch</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What is it you dont like about America? Is it the fact that we have the strongest solo economy? Or is it the freedom of speach and religion? Or maybe you'd just rather live in a place where you can legally be shot for voicing your opinion? [/QUOTE]
Freedom of speech?
A friend of mine knew of a high school in Seattle, where if teacher or student was caught bad-mouthing Bush, they would either be fired or expelled respectively. There is a picture of Bush at the end of every hallway. That is a blue state, might I remind you.
Freedom of religion?
Recently there was a TV show called "Book Of Daniel" (which I may say I found to be fantastic!), and it used Jesus as a main character with a sense of humour. This offended religious groups in the USA, so it was cancelled.
The USA is far from perfect. Maybe one day your eyes will be opened.
Canada is a hell of a lot better than the US in many respects. How about any of the countries in Scandanavia? They all have their acts together. Can you even name the four countries that make up Scandanavia - without checking somewhere?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Bitch</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What is it you dont like about America? Is it the fact that we have the strongest solo economy? Or is it the freedom of speach and religion? Or maybe you'd just rather live in a place where you can legally be shot for voicing your opinion? [/QUOTE]
Freedom of speech?
A friend of mine knew of a high school in Seattle, where if teacher or student was caught bad-mouthing Bush, they would either be fired or expelled respectively. There is a picture of Bush at the end of every hallway. That is a blue state, might I remind you.
Freedom of religion?
Recently there was a TV show called "Book Of Daniel" (which I may say I found to be fantastic!), and it used Jesus as a main character with a sense of humour. This offended religious groups in the USA, so it was cancelled.
The USA is far from perfect. Maybe one day your eyes will be opened.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Freedom of speech?
A friend of mine knew of a high school in Seattle, where if teacher or student was caught bad-mouthing Bush, they would either be fired or expelled respectively. There is a picture of Bush at the end of every hallway. That is a blue state, might I remind you.[/QUOTE]
You have to ask yourself (besides the question of how truthful is this type of "I heard it from a friend" comment) what kind of school is this and is it slightly blown out of proportion? Is it a religious school, for instance? Different rules apply.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Freedom of religion?
Recently there was a TV show called "Book Of Daniel" (which I may say I found to be fantastic!), and it used Jesus as a main character with a sense of humour. This offended religious groups in the USA, so it was cancelled.
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The "Book of Daniel" offended many Christians, but then so does South Park on a daily basis. "Daniel" was cancelled for low ratings, not because because it offended religious groups. Remember that NYPD Blue also offended religious groups and that many stations refused to air it when the show debuted in 1993, just like Daniel last month. Of course, NYPD Blue had high ratings and continued for over 10 years.
Freedom of speech?
A friend of mine knew of a high school in Seattle, where if teacher or student was caught bad-mouthing Bush, they would either be fired or expelled respectively. There is a picture of Bush at the end of every hallway. That is a blue state, might I remind you.[/QUOTE]
You have to ask yourself (besides the question of how truthful is this type of "I heard it from a friend" comment) what kind of school is this and is it slightly blown out of proportion? Is it a religious school, for instance? Different rules apply.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Freedom of religion?
Recently there was a TV show called "Book Of Daniel" (which I may say I found to be fantastic!), and it used Jesus as a main character with a sense of humour. This offended religious groups in the USA, so it was cancelled.
[/QUOTE]
The "Book of Daniel" offended many Christians, but then so does South Park on a daily basis. "Daniel" was cancelled for low ratings, not because because it offended religious groups. Remember that NYPD Blue also offended religious groups and that many stations refused to air it when the show debuted in 1993, just like Daniel last month. Of course, NYPD Blue had high ratings and continued for over 10 years.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zeni wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Freedom of speech?
A friend of mine knew of a high school in Seattle, where if teacher or student was caught bad-mouthing Bush, they would either be fired or expelled respectively. There is a picture of Bush at the end of every hallway. That is a blue state, might I remind you.[/QUOTE]
You have to ask yourself (besides the question of how truthful is this type of "I heard it from a friend" comment) what kind of school is this and is it slightly blown out of proportion? Is it a religious school, for instance? Different rules apply.[/QUOTE]
It's a public school for sure, and of course, I can't know for myself until I go there. But I have no reason to inherently doubt people when they tell me something like this. It's no secret that the US government has become one of censorship. I was just picking one example from many.
[QUOTE][QUOTE]
Freedom of religion?
Recently there was a TV show called "Book Of Daniel" (which I may say I found to be fantastic!), and it used Jesus as a main character with a sense of humour. This offended religious groups in the USA, so it was cancelled.
[/QUOTE]
The "Book of Daniel" offended many Christians, but then so does South Park on a daily basis. "Daniel" was cancelled for low ratings, not because because it offended religious groups. Remember that NYPD Blue also offended religious groups and that many stations refused to air it when the show debuted in 1993, just like Daniel last month. Of course, NYPD Blue had high ratings and continued for over 10 years.[/QUOTE]
Even if the program was cancelled for having bad ratings, there were many reports of religious groups being unhappy with the show. They were not respecting the freedom of speech of the people involved with the show, or the fact that some people actually enjoyed watching the show. While they say the show didn't respect their freedom of religion, I say that's a load of crap. Nobody told them to watch it. They can easily change the channel. This makes us somewhat similar to the muslims who are burning down embassies because of a few comics. We're not torching anything, but some of us are trying to supress freedom of speech as well.
South Park offends people for different reasons. For example, they have crossed the line while picking on minorities, which is completely unacceptable. Minorities consist of real people. Book Of Daniel used Jesus as a character, and Jesus is someone who can be accepted as real by means of belief. Nothing less, nothing more. Jesus will not be as real as real people until we can invent a time machine, or we can prove he existed. Physical and metaphysical are different. That's why South Park offends and Book Of Daniel should not.
Freedom of speech?
A friend of mine knew of a high school in Seattle, where if teacher or student was caught bad-mouthing Bush, they would either be fired or expelled respectively. There is a picture of Bush at the end of every hallway. That is a blue state, might I remind you.[/QUOTE]
You have to ask yourself (besides the question of how truthful is this type of "I heard it from a friend" comment) what kind of school is this and is it slightly blown out of proportion? Is it a religious school, for instance? Different rules apply.[/QUOTE]
It's a public school for sure, and of course, I can't know for myself until I go there. But I have no reason to inherently doubt people when they tell me something like this. It's no secret that the US government has become one of censorship. I was just picking one example from many.
[QUOTE][QUOTE]
Freedom of religion?
Recently there was a TV show called "Book Of Daniel" (which I may say I found to be fantastic!), and it used Jesus as a main character with a sense of humour. This offended religious groups in the USA, so it was cancelled.
[/QUOTE]
The "Book of Daniel" offended many Christians, but then so does South Park on a daily basis. "Daniel" was cancelled for low ratings, not because because it offended religious groups. Remember that NYPD Blue also offended religious groups and that many stations refused to air it when the show debuted in 1993, just like Daniel last month. Of course, NYPD Blue had high ratings and continued for over 10 years.[/QUOTE]
Even if the program was cancelled for having bad ratings, there were many reports of religious groups being unhappy with the show. They were not respecting the freedom of speech of the people involved with the show, or the fact that some people actually enjoyed watching the show. While they say the show didn't respect their freedom of religion, I say that's a load of crap. Nobody told them to watch it. They can easily change the channel. This makes us somewhat similar to the muslims who are burning down embassies because of a few comics. We're not torching anything, but some of us are trying to supress freedom of speech as well.
South Park offends people for different reasons. For example, they have crossed the line while picking on minorities, which is completely unacceptable. Minorities consist of real people. Book Of Daniel used Jesus as a character, and Jesus is someone who can be accepted as real by means of belief. Nothing less, nothing more. Jesus will not be as real as real people until we can invent a time machine, or we can prove he existed. Physical and metaphysical are different. That's why South Park offends and Book Of Daniel should not.
I remember watching a South Park episode where they showed a statue of Holy Mary bleeding out of her behind. Now, I'm not a devout christian, but I thought that was just low. I mean, you can be raunchy and therefore offensive while your humor is still considered funny, but when you're just being offensive for the sake of only being offensive, then it's just low.
Of course, there's not a perfect definition of what 'FUNNY' is. Considering that to some people SNL is still funny.
Now back to 'The Book of Daniel', AFA is taking things way too far (which doesn't surprise me since they are fundamentalists). I watched the show, and although I certainly why it might be controversial to some, I didn't think it had the intention of offending anyone. I mean South Park does things far more offensive, but I guess they've just given up. What upsets me is that AFA are nothing but a bunch of extremists. They're the ones who are leading a campaign against 'Brokeback Mountain' for "patronizing" a homosexual lifestyle.
Of course, there's not a perfect definition of what 'FUNNY' is. Considering that to some people SNL is still funny.
Now back to 'The Book of Daniel', AFA is taking things way too far (which doesn't surprise me since they are fundamentalists). I watched the show, and although I certainly why it might be controversial to some, I didn't think it had the intention of offending anyone. I mean South Park does things far more offensive, but I guess they've just given up. What upsets me is that AFA are nothing but a bunch of extremists. They're the ones who are leading a campaign against 'Brokeback Mountain' for "patronizing" a homosexual lifestyle.
Somewhat of a catch-22 there, isn't it?
The first ammendment allowed the show to be created, but the same ammendment allowed religious groups to protest the shows content. Please note that in no way did the government havee anything to do with the show being cancelled.
You must be incredibly naive to believe that the United States is inferior because of limited personal freedoms. Americans have the freedom to do whatever they wish as long as it does not infringe on the rights of other people. If the American government is so unjust as some seem to imply, then why is there so much information and new available to the public? Just to note, I have never been denied the right to do anything that I wanted to do as an American.
Any country which gaurentees the right to basic liberties is alright in my book.
Sir GH- Public schools in the United States are run by the states. Washington, being a blue state, should be anti-Bush. That being said, isn't the posting of a Republican politician a use of free speech? All of that is with the assumption that this event even occured, which I doubt. I did search Google for a half hour or so, but no proof of a Bush picture fiasco in a Washington high school.
So what's your spin?
The first ammendment allowed the show to be created, but the same ammendment allowed religious groups to protest the shows content. Please note that in no way did the government havee anything to do with the show being cancelled.
You must be incredibly naive to believe that the United States is inferior because of limited personal freedoms. Americans have the freedom to do whatever they wish as long as it does not infringe on the rights of other people. If the American government is so unjust as some seem to imply, then why is there so much information and new available to the public? Just to note, I have never been denied the right to do anything that I wanted to do as an American.
Any country which gaurentees the right to basic liberties is alright in my book.
Sir GH- Public schools in the United States are run by the states. Washington, being a blue state, should be anti-Bush. That being said, isn't the posting of a Republican politician a use of free speech? All of that is with the assumption that this event even occured, which I doubt. I did search Google for a half hour or so, but no proof of a Bush picture fiasco in a Washington high school.
So what's your spin?
I took the time to read the Wikipedia entry for "The Book of David". It did not surprise me that the show was cancelled so quickly. It seems way to complicated for me. Also, the fact that every caharacter seems to have multiple controversial issues. Far to much for the average person to relate to. I, like many other people, like to tackle one issue at a time. Especially with media.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE]Then why do you live here? Go move to Africa and then you'll know how good you have it.[/QUOTE]
Canada is a hell of a lot better than the US in many respects. How about any of the countries in Scandanavia? They all have their acts together. Can you even name the four countries that make up Scandanavia - without checking somewhere?[/QUOTE]
LMAO- good one. I don't think he can. I don't think he knows anything about ANY other country apart from Mighty America. And it's people like that who give Americans bad name- and I don't think it's fair.
Canada is a hell of a lot better than the US in many respects. How about any of the countries in Scandanavia? They all have their acts together. Can you even name the four countries that make up Scandanavia - without checking somewhere?[/QUOTE]
LMAO- good one. I don't think he can. I don't think he knows anything about ANY other country apart from Mighty America. And it's people like that who give Americans bad name- and I don't think it's fair.