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"Opponents of the bill tried unsuccessfully Feb. 9 to add an amendment making an exception for rape and incest."
Three cheers for republican compassion. Welcome to the USA in 2006. One more reason why I am proud to live in Canada.
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I hate to sound like a hippie, but this is why I am so annoyed by the "Christian Right." Always interfering in everyone else's business. Roe vs. Wade will be overhauled next. Damn conservatives.....
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
"Opponents of the bill tried unsuccessfully Feb. 9 to add an amendment making an exception for rape and incest."
Three cheers for republican compassion. Welcome to the USA in 2006. One more reason why I am proud to live in Canada.
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Does this really have to do with a lack of compassion? Or is it more legally wrangling since the bill is meant to end up at the Supreme Court anyways?
"Opponents of the bill tried unsuccessfully Feb. 9 to add an amendment making an exception for rape and incest."
Three cheers for republican compassion. Welcome to the USA in 2006. One more reason why I am proud to live in Canada.
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Does this really have to do with a lack of compassion? Or is it more legally wrangling since the bill is meant to end up at the Supreme Court anyways?
I am certainly not surprised, but I am scared this law would spread to the rest of the country.
The worst thing that could happen is that it becomes a federal law.
The worst thing that could happen is that it becomes a federal law.
the abortion thing is like a religous belief of when the soul enters the body. This is stupid many people might try to abort the baby themselves or go out of state.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Three cheers for republican compassion. Welcome to the USA in 2006. One more reason why I am proud to live in Canada.
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Can I come live with you?
I love my country, I do. But the past few years here have been a complete and utter embarrassment.
Three cheers for republican compassion. Welcome to the USA in 2006. One more reason why I am proud to live in Canada.
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Can I come live with you?
I love my country, I do. But the past few years here have been a complete and utter embarrassment.
I'm against the idea of partial birth abortion. I've researched some articles on the subject, and apparently it's something close to murdurering someone that can already be described as a mostly developed human being.
Personally I think that abortions could only be performed 3 months after conception.
Personally I think that abortions could only be performed 3 months after conception.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Three cheers for republican compassion. Welcome to the USA in 2006. One more reason why I am proud to live in Canada.
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Can I come live with you?
I love my country, I do. But the past few years here have been a complete and utter embarrassment.[/QUOTE]
me too, i think americas all down hill from here.
Three cheers for republican compassion. Welcome to the USA in 2006. One more reason why I am proud to live in Canada.
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Can I come live with you?
I love my country, I do. But the past few years here have been a complete and utter embarrassment.[/QUOTE]
me too, i think americas all down hill from here.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zeni wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Does this really have to do with a lack of compassion? Or is it more legally wrangling since the bill is meant to end up at the Supreme Court anyways?[/QUOTE]
Yes, it's a lack of compassion for people who are left with a difficult choice, perhaps after being raped. I can't believe we're in the 21st century, and the Christian right still has such a loud voice.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Ravenetta wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Personally I think that abortions could only be performed 3 months after conception.[/QUOTE]
you mean during the first 3 months?[/QUOTE]
Haha, let's hope so!
Yes, it's a lack of compassion for people who are left with a difficult choice, perhaps after being raped. I can't believe we're in the 21st century, and the Christian right still has such a loud voice.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Ravenetta wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Personally I think that abortions could only be performed 3 months after conception.[/QUOTE]
you mean during the first 3 months?[/QUOTE]
Haha, let's hope so!
Like, say, mostly anyone I've ever discussed this topic with, I think that abortion should be reserved for victims of rape and incest. Period. And the abortion should be completed as soon as humanly possible. It's a very simple concept that most people can agree on.
I'm kind of tired of teenage girls and other irresponsible people using abortion as "birth control: take 2." In this way, I am against the Roe v. Wade decision, and find it in much need of modification.
However, I do lean in favor of Pro-choice over Pro-life - if I absolutely had to pick one. But the fact is, we don't have to pick one. There is a middle road out there.
I'm kind of tired of teenage girls and other irresponsible people using abortion as "birth control: take 2." In this way, I am against the Roe v. Wade decision, and find it in much need of modification.
However, I do lean in favor of Pro-choice over Pro-life - if I absolutely had to pick one. But the fact is, we don't have to pick one. There is a middle road out there.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I'm kind of tired of teenage girls and other irresponsible people using abortion as "birth control: take 2." In this way, I am against the Roe v. Wade decision, and find it in much need of modification.[/QUOTE]
Roe v. Wade is actually about privacy. What goes on between a patient and a doctor is supposed to stay between that patient and that doctor. It's not exactly a permission slip to abort on demand, but acknowledges abortion the same way as any another medical procedure.
I'm kind of tired of teenage girls and other irresponsible people using abortion as "birth control: take 2." In this way, I am against the Roe v. Wade decision, and find it in much need of modification.[/QUOTE]
Roe v. Wade is actually about privacy. What goes on between a patient and a doctor is supposed to stay between that patient and that doctor. It's not exactly a permission slip to abort on demand, but acknowledges abortion the same way as any another medical procedure.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I'm kind of tired of teenage girls and other irresponsible people using abortion as "birth control: take 2." In this way, I am against the Roe v. Wade decision, and find it in much need of modification.[/QUOTE]
Roe v. Wade is actually about privacy. What goes on between a patient and a doctor is supposed to stay between that patient and that doctor. It's not exactly a permission slip to abort on demand, but acknowledges abortion the same way as any another medical procedure. [/QUOTE]
It's not exactly a permission slip to abort on demand, however it is just as effective as one.
I'm kind of tired of teenage girls and other irresponsible people using abortion as "birth control: take 2." In this way, I am against the Roe v. Wade decision, and find it in much need of modification.[/QUOTE]
Roe v. Wade is actually about privacy. What goes on between a patient and a doctor is supposed to stay between that patient and that doctor. It's not exactly a permission slip to abort on demand, but acknowledges abortion the same way as any another medical procedure. [/QUOTE]
It's not exactly a permission slip to abort on demand, however it is just as effective as one.
The Roe decision completely disallows state legislatures from limiting abortions in the first trimester, and can only restrict abortions in the second trimester that pertain to maternal health. This is pretty much as close to a permission slip as you can get.
"The Court apparently values the convenience of the pregnant mother more than the continued existence and development of the life or potential life that she carries."
In my opinion, rape, incest, or the endangerment of the life of the mother are the only valid reasons to obtain an abortion. The first two are protected under the fact that the victim had no choice in the conception of the child, and the last one is protected under the fact that the value of the mother's life outweighs the potential, uncertain life of the aborted child. Other than those, I challenge anyone to find a valid excuse for abortion.
Might I also note, that it is imperative to the rights of all women everywhere that they MUST BE PROTECTED under these cases at all possible times.
"The Court apparently values the convenience of the pregnant mother more than the continued existence and development of the life or potential life that she carries."
In my opinion, rape, incest, or the endangerment of the life of the mother are the only valid reasons to obtain an abortion. The first two are protected under the fact that the victim had no choice in the conception of the child, and the last one is protected under the fact that the value of the mother's life outweighs the potential, uncertain life of the aborted child. Other than those, I challenge anyone to find a valid excuse for abortion.
Might I also note, that it is imperative to the rights of all women everywhere that they MUST BE PROTECTED under these cases at all possible times.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
It's not exactly a permission slip to abort on demand, however it is just as effective as one.[/QUOTE]
I guess bottom line is, if Roe v. Wade is overturned, then decisions about privacy/abortion will be given to the states. Red states will have one law, and blue states will have another. That will add hardships to many and thrills to many others. It's sad that the country is so divided, but that seems to be the reality of it, doesn't it?
It's not exactly a permission slip to abort on demand, however it is just as effective as one.[/QUOTE]
I guess bottom line is, if Roe v. Wade is overturned, then decisions about privacy/abortion will be given to the states. Red states will have one law, and blue states will have another. That will add hardships to many and thrills to many others. It's sad that the country is so divided, but that seems to be the reality of it, doesn't it?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
It's not exactly a permission slip to abort on demand, however it is just as effective as one.[/QUOTE]
I guess bottom line is, if Roe v. Wade is overturned, then decisions about privacy/abortion will be given to the states. Red states will have one law, and blue states will have another. That will add hardships to many and thrills to many others. It's sad that the country is so divided, but that seems to be the reality of it, doesn't it?[/QUOTE]
I agree that Roe v. Wade should not be flat out overturned. But I think it is important that it should be modified through another decision. As of now, it's pretty much forcing ALL the states to be blue states.
Although I must admit that every now and then I consider the repercussions of this middle of the road idea. While it is in every way correct, it will undoubtedly create many unwanted side effects.
It's not exactly a permission slip to abort on demand, however it is just as effective as one.[/QUOTE]
I guess bottom line is, if Roe v. Wade is overturned, then decisions about privacy/abortion will be given to the states. Red states will have one law, and blue states will have another. That will add hardships to many and thrills to many others. It's sad that the country is so divided, but that seems to be the reality of it, doesn't it?[/QUOTE]
I agree that Roe v. Wade should not be flat out overturned. But I think it is important that it should be modified through another decision. As of now, it's pretty much forcing ALL the states to be blue states.
Although I must admit that every now and then I consider the repercussions of this middle of the road idea. While it is in every way correct, it will undoubtedly create many unwanted side effects.