I have always thought that Elvis were and still is a very overrated artist, and today I found out that "the great Elvis Presley" didn't write his own songs. How can a artist be called the king of rock when he even doesn't write his own lyrics. The respect of Elvis in America is infinite, but even his voice is not that great, he had a good voice but I find it little monotonous. You can imitate Elvis Presley, but you can not imitate Freddie Mercury, the volume, the extent of Freddies voice was something non-human.
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How can an actor be called the good actor when he even doesn't write script of the movie? How can guitarist be called the good guitarist when sounds came from guitar?
and Elton?
Couldn't agree more Linda...well said!
Couldn't agree more Linda...well said!
People like Elvis, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Bing Crosby, Art Garfunkle, Pavarotti and even Montserrat Caballe all BELIEVED they were great singers... but really sh*t song-writers - that's why they left the song eriting to the professionals.
Sometimes great song writers like Leiber & Stroller, Oscar Hammerstein, Andrew Lloyd Webber and even Bob Dylan all think they are great writers, but sh*t as singers.
The point is that those who live in either group, believe that they are in the best place tehy can be to sell their music.
Now, great singer/songwriters only really come along one a lifetime. Freddie perhaps belonged to this elite third group, but that does not really mean that he was a better singer than elvis.
As John Lennon said, "Before Elvis, there was nothing".
Sometimes great song writers like Leiber & Stroller, Oscar Hammerstein, Andrew Lloyd Webber and even Bob Dylan all think they are great writers, but sh*t as singers.
The point is that those who live in either group, believe that they are in the best place tehy can be to sell their music.
Now, great singer/songwriters only really come along one a lifetime. Freddie perhaps belonged to this elite third group, but that does not really mean that he was a better singer than elvis.
As John Lennon said, "Before Elvis, there was nothing".
Elvis is something special. There are few artists I can think of with such charisma and such emotion in their voice.That he didn't write his own songs is his only weakness. I also believe freddie is better:he's a better singer , he's a legendary songwriter ,a unique performer with charisma just not too big for the world to carry:-)That said:I will always pay huge respect to elvis and he isn't overrated.Only:freddie(and Queen) is underrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So he didn't write his own songs. He wasn't much of a guitarist either. He was a lousy actor in my opinion. But the guy still had talent. He could sing and he made those songs classics. People loved him and still do. He can't be called The King for nothing surely.
Wise comments, I respect your opinions, but I didn't say that Elvis was bad. You must understand that Elvis is very overrated in America. They call him the King, they say no one can be compared to him, he stands alone. No other artist have had that commercial success of selling most records like Elvis did. But where do you think he has sold the most records, of course in America, and the majority of the American public have several of Elvis records at home. But in Europe, and I come from Sweden, we respect Elvis, but people like Freddie Mercury have higher status in the music world, but people like Elvis have higher status in media, because of selling one billion records (and i'm now talking about the American media, and remember that a great majority of those records were sold in America. People like Freddie Mercury are very underrated in America, but we know that Freddie Mercury is a better artist than Elvis, Mercury has the greatest voice ever and his lyrics are quite good. That means that Freddie Mercury should be the King and Elvis the Queen.
America? Serry is from Russia, Linda is from Ireland, The Fairy King is from Netherlands (as I remember), John S Stuart is from Scotland, on my way up is from Belgium, Quonkers is from Ireland...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]People like Elvis, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Bing Crosby, Art Garfunkle, Pavarotti and even Montserrat Caballe all BELIEVED they were great singers... but really sh*t song-writers - that's why they left the song eriting to the professionals.
Sometimes great song writers like Leiber & Stroller, Oscar Hammerstein, Andrew Lloyd Webber and even Bob Dylan all think they are great writers, but sh*t as singers.
The point is that those who live in either group, believe that they are in the best place tehy can be to sell their music.
Now, great singer/songwriters only really come along one a lifetime. Freddie perhaps belonged to this elite third group, but that does not really mean that he was a better singer than elvis.
As John Lennon said, "Before Elvis, there was nothing".
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another person in the 2nd group - Kris Kristofferson. The man can write a damn good song but he can't sing a lick in my opinion.
Sometimes great song writers like Leiber & Stroller, Oscar Hammerstein, Andrew Lloyd Webber and even Bob Dylan all think they are great writers, but sh*t as singers.
The point is that those who live in either group, believe that they are in the best place tehy can be to sell their music.
Now, great singer/songwriters only really come along one a lifetime. Freddie perhaps belonged to this elite third group, but that does not really mean that he was a better singer than elvis.
As John Lennon said, "Before Elvis, there was nothing".
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another person in the 2nd group - Kris Kristofferson. The man can write a damn good song but he can't sing a lick in my opinion.
The only thing i'm trying to say is that Mercury sholud be called the king. Elvis has a monotonous voice and he didn't write those great songs, he hasn't even written on little hit. He is being called the King for no reason, like I said before a lot of people can imitate Elvis Presley, especially his voice(in las vegas)and that is the most essential thing for a music artist.
And that is his voice.
If the voice is the most essential attribute(and song writing) for a music artist that means that we have only charisma left and Elvis had charisma but does he deserve to be called the king? I think that Mercury should be called the king.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Sometimes great song writers like Leiber & Stroller, Oscar Hammerstein, Andrew Lloyd Webber and even Bob Dylan all think they are great writers, but sh*t as singers.
As John Lennon said, "Before Elvis, there was nothing".
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well said John. although i'm sure Caspar will lambast you for the Dylan comment (btw - i agree with yuo 100% about Zimmerman - he was a shit-awful singer)
Manfred Mann's Earthband..made Dylan's dirge's come to life
Sometimes great song writers like Leiber & Stroller, Oscar Hammerstein, Andrew Lloyd Webber and even Bob Dylan all think they are great writers, but sh*t as singers.
As John Lennon said, "Before Elvis, there was nothing".
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well said John. although i'm sure Caspar will lambast you for the Dylan comment (btw - i agree with yuo 100% about Zimmerman - he was a shit-awful singer)
Manfred Mann's Earthband..made Dylan's dirge's come to life
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME] <font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
xD actually NO americans have posted in this topic yet! [/QUOTE]
Then let me be the first.
Elvis broke the rules. He sang 'soul' songs and made them popular. He moved in a way that made the people swoon and chuckle while the censors cringed and ordered him to be 'filmed from the waist up'. He was a rebel - a bad boy. Yet, he was a gentleman - and a mama's boy. He was something to everyone. Charismatic, polite, quick to smile and a joy to watch. He had staying power because people saw him as a man, not just as an entertainer.
Elvis = King
Freddie = Queen
Musical royalty
xD actually NO americans have posted in this topic yet! [/QUOTE]
Then let me be the first.
Elvis broke the rules. He sang 'soul' songs and made them popular. He moved in a way that made the people swoon and chuckle while the censors cringed and ordered him to be 'filmed from the waist up'. He was a rebel - a bad boy. Yet, he was a gentleman - and a mama's boy. He was something to everyone. Charismatic, polite, quick to smile and a joy to watch. He had staying power because people saw him as a man, not just as an entertainer.
Elvis = King
Freddie = Queen
Musical royalty
What is this, so you think that Elvis is a better singer than Mercury, this is mad. I'm a Mercury fan but there are lot of people in the music world that say that Mercury is the greatest male singer (vocalist)of all time. You don't have to be a Mercury fan to realize that.
This has nothing to do with rock history, this is common sense. This is just outrageous what I'm hearing. I think that Elvis should be grateful that he had a person who wrote those great songs, we should honour that guy and not just "the great" Elvis. Remember people say "Those Elvis songs are great", but you can't call them Elvis songs, because he didn't write them. Why should he get all the credit for them (a lot of ordinary people in the world think that he wrote those songs), he didn't write them, and tell me is that fair?
This has nothing to do with rock history, this is common sense. This is just outrageous what I'm hearing. I think that Elvis should be grateful that he had a person who wrote those great songs, we should honour that guy and not just "the great" Elvis. Remember people say "Those Elvis songs are great", but you can't call them Elvis songs, because he didn't write them. Why should he get all the credit for them (a lot of ordinary people in the world think that he wrote those songs), he didn't write them, and tell me is that fair?