[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Darko wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What is this, so you think that Elvis is a better singer than Mercury, this is mad.[/QUOTE]
Did I say Elvis was a better singer than Freddie? Hmmm. Let me check....
...Nope. Didn't say that. Didn't think so.
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Be honest know and tell me:
Who is the better singer?
And who is the better artist (overall)?
For me the answers are
Answer1: Mercury
Answer2: Mercury
Who is the better singer?
And who is the better artist (overall)?
For me the answers are
Answer1: Mercury
Answer2: Mercury
Sorry it should say be honest now
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Darko wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Be honest know and tell me:
Who is the better singer?
And who is the better artist (overall)?
For me the answers are
Answer1: Mercury
Answer2: Mercury[/QUOTE]
For me? Easy answer to both - Freddie.
HOWEVER - Freddie wouldn't have done very well, IMHO, in Elvis' day. Timing, Darko, does have its place.
Who is the better singer?
And who is the better artist (overall)?
For me the answers are
Answer1: Mercury
Answer2: Mercury[/QUOTE]
For me? Easy answer to both - Freddie.
HOWEVER - Freddie wouldn't have done very well, IMHO, in Elvis' day. Timing, Darko, does have its place.
No doubt that in his early career (before making movies) he influenced the music world forever, but I must say he was just cheesy and lame after the rock-n-roll explosion ended. I grew up in the south, and yes, Elvis is majorly overrated. Elvis is an icon, but there's no comparison in talent with Freddie. Little Richard deserves more recognition than Elvis.
Since we're on the subject, I always remembered my mom telling me about how embarrassed she was when she was dating my dad back in the late 60's because he loved Elvis. She would tell me that you were the ultimate nerd and was just uncool at that time to like Elvis. My grandmother always told me how her best friend got to go on the Louisiana Hayride the year that Elvis was there too.
ELVIS IS DEFINITELY OVERATED
Think about it. Around the time that Elvis came out, we had a handful of extremely talented musicians who were the pioneers of rock n' roll: Bill Haley, Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Fats Domino, etc. All of them far more talented than Elvis.
Elvis had something in his advantage, and it was the fact that he had good looks, something that the other guys I mentioned didn't particularly have. Plus, add to the fact that the 50's was the beginning of the TV era, and media companies had to sell the image of an artist as much as the music. Pretty much Elvis was just about as fabricated as any boy band.
The only props I give Elvis is for being a good performer, but other than that I think that the title of "King of Rock N' Roll" was nothing more than media hype.
Think about it. Around the time that Elvis came out, we had a handful of extremely talented musicians who were the pioneers of rock n' roll: Bill Haley, Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Fats Domino, etc. All of them far more talented than Elvis.
Elvis had something in his advantage, and it was the fact that he had good looks, something that the other guys I mentioned didn't particularly have. Plus, add to the fact that the 50's was the beginning of the TV era, and media companies had to sell the image of an artist as much as the music. Pretty much Elvis was just about as fabricated as any boy band.
The only props I give Elvis is for being a good performer, but other than that I think that the title of "King of Rock N' Roll" was nothing more than media hype.
Darko,
Coming from a family who worships the ground Elvis walked on (I like the man, but I think that's going a bit far), I have this to say:
Elvis is called the King of Rock n' Roll because he was one of the first people who made it big in the beginning of rock music. As much as I love Freddie Mercury, and I agree with you, he is a bit under-rated here in the U.S, he could never be called the King simply because he came on the scene twenty-three years after the whole rock n' roll era began.
But I think you know that, and I just wasted a whole bunch of words, but I had to say it.
By the way, Elvis did write the lyrics to a few songs. I'll have to do some research as to which songs they were though.
Coming from a family who worships the ground Elvis walked on (I like the man, but I think that's going a bit far), I have this to say:
Elvis is called the King of Rock n' Roll because he was one of the first people who made it big in the beginning of rock music. As much as I love Freddie Mercury, and I agree with you, he is a bit under-rated here in the U.S, he could never be called the King simply because he came on the scene twenty-three years after the whole rock n' roll era began.
But I think you know that, and I just wasted a whole bunch of words, but I had to say it.
By the way, Elvis did write the lyrics to a few songs. I'll have to do some research as to which songs they were though.
Elvis didn't make generational history or influence by his songwriting; he made history by his innovation and inspiration to rock music. You don't have to like Elvis' music, but you can't deny the influence he had not only over his generation, but many generations, even to this day.
Cheers
Cheers
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Darko wrote: [/QUOTENAME] he didn't write those great songs, he hasn't even written on little hit.[/QUOTE]
You should do your research before posting false statements. You are wrong. Elvis was credited or cocredited with writing several of his hits. This has been discussed many times and his songwriting friends have confirmed that he did in fact write songs.
You should do your research before posting false statements. You are wrong. Elvis was credited or cocredited with writing several of his hits. This has been discussed many times and his songwriting friends have confirmed that he did in fact write songs.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]jcrawford79 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Darko wrote: [/QUOTENAME] he didn't write those great songs, he hasn't even written on little hit.[/QUOTE]
You should do your research before posting false statements. You are wrong. Elvis was credited or cocredited with writing several of his hits. This has been discussed many times and his songwriting friends have confirmed that he did in fact write songs.[/QUOTE]
Heh, I like how you bluntly say "you are wrong." It gives me much enjoyment. :)
Cheers
You should do your research before posting false statements. You are wrong. Elvis was credited or cocredited with writing several of his hits. This has been discussed many times and his songwriting friends have confirmed that he did in fact write songs.[/QUOTE]
Heh, I like how you bluntly say "you are wrong." It gives me much enjoyment. :)
Cheers
I love how some people believe that cultural phenomena are a matter of interpretation...
If the general population (American, or any other for that matter) feel that Elvis was the king of rock and roll, then to that population he is the king of rock and roll. Regardless of what someone who doesn't appreciate his music thinks. Not liking Elvis' music in no way refutes his position in popular culture.
So if someone doesn't appreciate We Will Rock You....well then it probably doesn't deserve its title as the greatest sporting anthem ever? Rediculous.....
If the general population (American, or any other for that matter) feel that Elvis was the king of rock and roll, then to that population he is the king of rock and roll. Regardless of what someone who doesn't appreciate his music thinks. Not liking Elvis' music in no way refutes his position in popular culture.
So if someone doesn't appreciate We Will Rock You....well then it probably doesn't deserve its title as the greatest sporting anthem ever? Rediculous.....
In the end, popularity and longevity is the ultimate measure of musical success. The fact is, Elvis has both those things in abundance. Regardless of the means (which you are arguing), he has accomplished the ends. End of story.
Darko stated
"Remember people say "Those Elvis songs are great", but you can't call them Elvis songs, because he didn't write them."
Right he just brought them to life!
"Remember people say "Those Elvis songs are great", but you can't call them Elvis songs, because he didn't write them."
Right he just brought them to life!
Hello there guys, As a objective fan of them both, you guys have to remember something. We are on a queen forum, it isn't that uncommon that everybody thinks Freddie is better.
Next thing is that Elvis and queen played different kind of music. So it's not so fair to compare them. That Elvis is called the King and not Freddie is cery easy to tell. Elvis was first, he played in nowadays thoughts more familiar music. The music spread to more people.
That Elvis didn't wrote his own songs is true, though he co-wrote a few in the 50s. But the fact was that most artists didn't wrote their music themselves. Ok don't say that you can look on perkins and the others who wrote their stuff themselves, I know them. But most artist didn't. That was so the music industy worked before the beatles entered the arena . Beatles changed that, so that more artists wrote their stuff themselves. And if Elvis was used to sing others songs, it isn't that funny that he keept doing it.
Overall this is a crazy topic, because we discuss 2 great actors, and they are great in their own ways. Neither side wants to surrender in this question.
At last can I say that I think Elvis had a more warm voice then Freddie. Freddie had more raw power in his voice. Elvis was more soul then Freddie, but Freddie was more rock...
Next thing is that Elvis and queen played different kind of music. So it's not so fair to compare them. That Elvis is called the King and not Freddie is cery easy to tell. Elvis was first, he played in nowadays thoughts more familiar music. The music spread to more people.
That Elvis didn't wrote his own songs is true, though he co-wrote a few in the 50s. But the fact was that most artists didn't wrote their music themselves. Ok don't say that you can look on perkins and the others who wrote their stuff themselves, I know them. But most artist didn't. That was so the music industy worked before the beatles entered the arena . Beatles changed that, so that more artists wrote their stuff themselves. And if Elvis was used to sing others songs, it isn't that funny that he keept doing it.
Overall this is a crazy topic, because we discuss 2 great actors, and they are great in their own ways. Neither side wants to surrender in this question.
At last can I say that I think Elvis had a more warm voice then Freddie. Freddie had more raw power in his voice. Elvis was more soul then Freddie, but Freddie was more rock...