[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]fantasma wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What's good in that chromatic piece of shit?
No creativity in it at all!
Fast???
The speed can easily be produced in studio...
Sometimes Brian really sucks.
[/QUOTE]
I think it's creative. I don't know of any other solos that sound remotely like it. It has a unique feel to it, just like most of Brian's solos.
Fast? That's not what is impressive about it. It's really not a technical masterpiece, but then again, neither are any of his other solos, so I really don't see where you are going with this point. Brian's credibility comes from his musicality, his tone, his melody, his rhythm, and his unique creativity. I think this solo fits those well.
If you want fast, might I suggest Paul Gilbert. Quite an overlooked guitarist, but the man is brilliant. He is one of the few shredders who could turn speed into something beautiful. People like Malmsteen can only do so on occasion without seeming redundant, boring, and unoriginal. Gilbert can do it every time. Eric Johnson is another virtuoso you might want to invest your time in.
However, just because Brian lacks the specific technique of these guitarists, it is much like criticizing a pole vaulter for his inability to ice skate.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]fantasma wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=Orange>A Winter's Tale wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I think the solo is brilliant and one of his best. It's so fast and it's great.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Well...it's fast...but has he ever played it live?
In Studio I can also play everything that you can imagine.
What is great in this solo?
half notes up and down...that's it...like a baby does when you give a guitar to it.
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How could he have played it live? Queen haven't toured since 1986 and this song was written (presumably) in 88 or 89. Although I would like them to play it on the Q + PR tour.
Hi,
Well...it's fast...but has he ever played it live?
In Studio I can also play everything that you can imagine.
What is great in this solo?
half notes up and down...that's it...like a baby does when you give a guitar to it.
[/QUOTE]
How could he have played it live? Queen haven't toured since 1986 and this song was written (presumably) in 88 or 89. Although I would like them to play it on the Q + PR tour.
The solo fits the song, and as with the majoraty of his solos no one would remember of doing it that way!
You may not like it, but could you think of a better solo for that song after you hear this one?
Take care
You may not like it, but could you think of a better solo for that song after you hear this one?
Take care
Brian does scales in other solos, too (BoRhap and A Kind of Magic, for example) - but I think they're always appropriate for the piece.
does it matter about the solo in "the invisible man"
it isnt a full rock song is it.(brian is good)
queen=perfection
it isnt a full rock song is it.(brian is good)
queen=perfection
"In Studio I can also play everything that you can imagine."
Ok then.
1). Go to your studio.
2). Record Pagnini's 5th Caprice for me.
3). Upload it here.
I can't play Pagnini's 5th Caprice, but I'm not saying you can't - if you're going to crap on something with such temerity, then you might as well back it up!
Ok then.
1). Go to your studio.
2). Record Pagnini's 5th Caprice for me.
3). Upload it here.
I can't play Pagnini's 5th Caprice, but I'm not saying you can't - if you're going to crap on something with such temerity, then you might as well back it up!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]fantasma wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What's good in that chromatic piece of shit?
No creativity in it at all!
Fast???
The speed can easily be produced in studio...
Sometimes Brian really sucks.
[/QUOTE]
It works for me but you're entitled to your opinion.
It isn't overly melodic but to me it creates a certain tension within the music.
BTW who said it was fast? It isn't particularly fast. If you need to use studio trickery to play this then you need to practice.
No creativity in it at all!
Fast???
The speed can easily be produced in studio...
Sometimes Brian really sucks.
[/QUOTE]
It works for me but you're entitled to your opinion.
It isn't overly melodic but to me it creates a certain tension within the music.
BTW who said it was fast? It isn't particularly fast. If you need to use studio trickery to play this then you need to practice.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]fantasma wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What's good in that chromatic piece of shit?
No creativity in it at all!
Fast???
The speed can easily be produced in studio...
Sometimes Brian really sucks.
[/QUOTE]
Since this statement was put here with the sole purpose of getting people to fire back at you, I'm with Linda.
Had you written a balanced critique then I would have given it more time, however your opinion is worthless if unless you back it up. Making a statement just to get folk annoyed is pathetic.
Nobody says you have to like everything he does, but it would be nice if you could voice your views in a more constructive way.
But in this instance I think Linda reacted in just the way you wanted, Oh and BTW he played it live in the studio, no tricks.
No creativity in it at all!
Fast???
The speed can easily be produced in studio...
Sometimes Brian really sucks.
[/QUOTE]
Since this statement was put here with the sole purpose of getting people to fire back at you, I'm with Linda.
Had you written a balanced critique then I would have given it more time, however your opinion is worthless if unless you back it up. Making a statement just to get folk annoyed is pathetic.
Nobody says you have to like everything he does, but it would be nice if you could voice your views in a more constructive way.
But in this instance I think Linda reacted in just the way you wanted, Oh and BTW he played it live in the studio, no tricks.
Hello,
1st:
You are allowed to critizise me. No problemo.
But this thread is also about that particular guitar solo, that some people here regard as Queen's best guitar solo and that I find too basic for publishing.
If it is Queen's best guitar solo then Queen would really, really suck.
Or those people only know that song and maybe "Another one bites the dust" too.
2nd:
I don't have the time and ambition to imitate something in studio. But I think it's no secret that everyone can play everything in studio. It's only a matter of time, money and ambition.
1st:
You are allowed to critizise me. No problemo.
But this thread is also about that particular guitar solo, that some people here regard as Queen's best guitar solo and that I find too basic for publishing.
If it is Queen's best guitar solo then Queen would really, really suck.
Or those people only know that song and maybe "Another one bites the dust" too.
2nd:
I don't have the time and ambition to imitate something in studio. But I think it's no secret that everyone can play everything in studio. It's only a matter of time, money and ambition.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]fantasma wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hello,
1st:
You are allowed to critizise me. No problemo.
But this thread is also about that particular guitar solo, that some people here regard as Queen's best guitar solo and that I find too basic for publishing.
If it is Queen's best guitar solo then Queen would really, really suck.
Or those people only know that song and maybe "Another one bites the dust" too.
2nd:
I don't have the time and ambition to imitate something in studio. But I think it's no secret that everyone can play everything in studio. It's only a matter of time, money and ambition.
[/QUOTE]
"It's only a matter of time, money and ambition."
Same thing with developing your skills to the like of Yngwie Malmsteen.
"that some people here regard as Queen's best guitar solo"
Yes, and the last time I checked, best did not mean "most technically proficient" nor "most melodic" nor anything else you suggested. Merely, "favorite," as it is all quite subjective.
1st:
You are allowed to critizise me. No problemo.
But this thread is also about that particular guitar solo, that some people here regard as Queen's best guitar solo and that I find too basic for publishing.
If it is Queen's best guitar solo then Queen would really, really suck.
Or those people only know that song and maybe "Another one bites the dust" too.
2nd:
I don't have the time and ambition to imitate something in studio. But I think it's no secret that everyone can play everything in studio. It's only a matter of time, money and ambition.
[/QUOTE]
"It's only a matter of time, money and ambition."
Same thing with developing your skills to the like of Yngwie Malmsteen.
"that some people here regard as Queen's best guitar solo"
Yes, and the last time I checked, best did not mean "most technically proficient" nor "most melodic" nor anything else you suggested. Merely, "favorite," as it is all quite subjective.
"Hello,"
Hi there.
"1st:
You are allowed to critizise me. No problemo."
You are most gracious, sir.
"But this thread is also about that particular guitar solo, that some people here regard as Queen's best guitar solo and that I find too basic for publishing."
I don't think it's their best. I think there's a certain insanity in the playing of it though - it's not the fastest you'll hear, but coming from Brian May, and in such a silly song... it simply rocks, if for no other reason that it's placement (rather than the actual skill involved).
"If it is Queen's best guitar solo then Queen would really, really suck.
Or those people only know that song and maybe "Another one bites the dust" too."
No, I happen to disagree. I'd think less of Queen if this was their 'best' but they still really wouldn't suck at all.
"2nd:
I don't have the time and ambition to imitate something in studio."
But you said you could. You must have the time to do so, you're wasting so much of it on the internet.
"But I think it's no secret that everyone can play everything in studio. It's only a matter of time, money and ambition."
This is partly true.
But the fact is, you point-blank said you could play anything. I want some freakin' proof - I will *gladly* shut my hole once you show us SOMETHING that shits all over everything Brian May ever did, but I can't abide this crap attitude of 'I can do it all' when you offer nothing in support.
"Same thing with developing your skills to the like of Yngwie Malmsteen."
Yes but even dear Yngwie makes mistakes!
I think people need to change the way they think about guitar. It's just one big fat game of 'my-dick-is-bigger-than-yours'. I can think of nothing more boring than the kind of discussion of 'who-is-better', I would *much* rather have a thread where we all uploaded stuff of each other playing, tried to "create" something.
Instead of this crap!
Hi there.
"1st:
You are allowed to critizise me. No problemo."
You are most gracious, sir.
"But this thread is also about that particular guitar solo, that some people here regard as Queen's best guitar solo and that I find too basic for publishing."
I don't think it's their best. I think there's a certain insanity in the playing of it though - it's not the fastest you'll hear, but coming from Brian May, and in such a silly song... it simply rocks, if for no other reason that it's placement (rather than the actual skill involved).
"If it is Queen's best guitar solo then Queen would really, really suck.
Or those people only know that song and maybe "Another one bites the dust" too."
No, I happen to disagree. I'd think less of Queen if this was their 'best' but they still really wouldn't suck at all.
"2nd:
I don't have the time and ambition to imitate something in studio."
But you said you could. You must have the time to do so, you're wasting so much of it on the internet.
"But I think it's no secret that everyone can play everything in studio. It's only a matter of time, money and ambition."
This is partly true.
But the fact is, you point-blank said you could play anything. I want some freakin' proof - I will *gladly* shut my hole once you show us SOMETHING that shits all over everything Brian May ever did, but I can't abide this crap attitude of 'I can do it all' when you offer nothing in support.
"Same thing with developing your skills to the like of Yngwie Malmsteen."
Yes but even dear Yngwie makes mistakes!
I think people need to change the way they think about guitar. It's just one big fat game of 'my-dick-is-bigger-than-yours'. I can think of nothing more boring than the kind of discussion of 'who-is-better', I would *much* rather have a thread where we all uploaded stuff of each other playing, tried to "create" something.
Instead of this crap!
Hi again,
I agree that I am wasting time here, but for something big I'd need a little bit more time.
By the way I believe that I've never written yet that I'm a better guitarist than Brian May and I don't think about "Who is the best guitarist" in the way you've mentioned.
No, my view isn't that the one who plays the fastest or most dificult parts is the greatest.
It's the way how someone touches the strings, produces a sound and melody that fits to the song which characterizes a great guitarist.
And Brian is usually very good there (Vibrato!).
But it's not really like this in reference to "Invisible Man". At least there is no melody.
Well, Invisible Man is a terrible song anyway.
Maybe Brian didn't like it neither and that's the reason for this kind of feeblemindedness.
By the way, who wrote it? Probably John or Freddie
who are also famous for their pop-oriented nonsense.
Though I am able to play most Queen-songs I've never recorded any yet to show you that.
But I am planing to do so in some weeks/months.
Meanwhile I am busy with other stuff.
I was thinking about '39 or Innuendo but if you have a special request don't hesitate to tell it to me.(I won't do Invisible Man...)
Yours sincerely
I agree that I am wasting time here, but for something big I'd need a little bit more time.
By the way I believe that I've never written yet that I'm a better guitarist than Brian May and I don't think about "Who is the best guitarist" in the way you've mentioned.
No, my view isn't that the one who plays the fastest or most dificult parts is the greatest.
It's the way how someone touches the strings, produces a sound and melody that fits to the song which characterizes a great guitarist.
And Brian is usually very good there (Vibrato!).
But it's not really like this in reference to "Invisible Man". At least there is no melody.
Well, Invisible Man is a terrible song anyway.
Maybe Brian didn't like it neither and that's the reason for this kind of feeblemindedness.
By the way, who wrote it? Probably John or Freddie
who are also famous for their pop-oriented nonsense.
Though I am able to play most Queen-songs I've never recorded any yet to show you that.
But I am planing to do so in some weeks/months.
Meanwhile I am busy with other stuff.
I was thinking about '39 or Innuendo but if you have a special request don't hesitate to tell it to me.(I won't do Invisible Man...)
Yours sincerely
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]fantasma wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hi again,
I agree that I am wasting time here, but for something big I'd need a little bit more time.
By the way I believe that I've never written yet that I'm a better guitarist than Brian May and I don't think about "Who is the best guitarist" in the way you've mentioned.
No, my view isn't that the one who plays the fastest or most dificult parts is the greatest.
It's the way how someone touches the strings, produces a sound and melody that fits to the song which characterizes a great guitarist.
And Brian is usually very good there (Vibrato!).
But it's not really like this in reference to "Invisible Man". At least there is no melody.
Well, Invisible Man is a terrible song anyway.
Maybe Brian didn't like it neither and that's the reason for this kind of feeblemindedness.
By the way, who wrote it? Probably John or Freddie
who are also famous for their pop-oriented nonsense.
Though I am able to play most Queen-songs I've never recorded any yet to show you that.
But I am planing to do so in some weeks/months.
Meanwhile I am busy with other stuff.
I was thinking about '39 or Innuendo but if you have a special request don't hesitate to tell it to me.(I won't do Invisible Man...)
Yours sincerely[/QUOTE]
So, basically, what you're trying to say is...well, let me give you a brief summary of everything you've said in this thread:
"I don't like 'The Invisible Man.'"
That pretty much summarizes it. You just simply don't like the song. It's subjective, really, but you try to give some objective points that don't actually exist. But now that I've generally laid out your point in this entire thread, I'd say this topic is settled.
I agree that I am wasting time here, but for something big I'd need a little bit more time.
By the way I believe that I've never written yet that I'm a better guitarist than Brian May and I don't think about "Who is the best guitarist" in the way you've mentioned.
No, my view isn't that the one who plays the fastest or most dificult parts is the greatest.
It's the way how someone touches the strings, produces a sound and melody that fits to the song which characterizes a great guitarist.
And Brian is usually very good there (Vibrato!).
But it's not really like this in reference to "Invisible Man". At least there is no melody.
Well, Invisible Man is a terrible song anyway.
Maybe Brian didn't like it neither and that's the reason for this kind of feeblemindedness.
By the way, who wrote it? Probably John or Freddie
who are also famous for their pop-oriented nonsense.
Though I am able to play most Queen-songs I've never recorded any yet to show you that.
But I am planing to do so in some weeks/months.
Meanwhile I am busy with other stuff.
I was thinking about '39 or Innuendo but if you have a special request don't hesitate to tell it to me.(I won't do Invisible Man...)
Yours sincerely[/QUOTE]
So, basically, what you're trying to say is...well, let me give you a brief summary of everything you've said in this thread:
"I don't like 'The Invisible Man.'"
That pretty much summarizes it. You just simply don't like the song. It's subjective, really, but you try to give some objective points that don't actually exist. But now that I've generally laid out your point in this entire thread, I'd say this topic is settled.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]fantasma wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME] <font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]fantasma wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Sometimes Brian really sucks.
[/QUOTE]
Sometimes I wonder if people here are actually Queen fans. [/QUOTE]
Dear Linda,
Yup, sometimes he is great but sometimes he really sucks, ie. We Will Rock You.
(The solo is alright, but the rest is too dumb)[/QUOTE]
So dumb that the whole world knows it?
Sometimes Brian really sucks.
[/QUOTE]
Sometimes I wonder if people here are actually Queen fans. [/QUOTE]
Dear Linda,
Yup, sometimes he is great but sometimes he really sucks, ie. We Will Rock You.
(The solo is alright, but the rest is too dumb)[/QUOTE]
So dumb that the whole world knows it?
"Hi again,
I agree that I am wasting time here, but for something big I'd need a little bit more time."
Well that's what I was getting at, less talk and more rock.
"By the way I believe that I've never written yet that I'm a better guitarist than Brian May"
... heh. Look, just because I can play the majority of the Queen catalogue on the guitar doesn't make me 'better' than anyone. I just put more time into it, that's all.
"and I don't think about "Who is the best guitarist" in the way you've mentioned."
YOU JUST DID. YOU JUST SAID "yet I'm a better guitarist than Brian May". That = 'who is the best guitarist'.
"No, my view isn't that the one who plays the fastest or most dificult parts is the greatest."
I completely agree on this. I believe Jimi Hendrix has Steve Vai over a fucking barrel when it comes to guitar, because Steve Vai wastes 14 hours a day rehearsing these incredibly fast tunes, yet no bugger will ever remember them. Jimi Hendrix *invented* modern guitar playing, made incredible sounds with feedback in a way not many people would've done (on purpose anyway) and had such soul in his playing...
I'm sorry, who's Steve Vai again? :D
"It's the way how someone touches the strings, produces a sound and melody that fits to the song which characterizes a great guitarist.
And Brian is usually very good there (Vibrato!)."
Damn straight.
"But it's not really like this in reference to "Invisible Man". At least there is no melody."
I think you understand guitar playing pretty well, but you've missed the point with the Invisible Man solo. Can I give you a bit of background info on it?
Brian May was feeling very frustrated/angry one day, so he went into the studio and the Invisible Man solo came out. It's fast and frenetic - not incredibly complicated but utterly over the top for a basic song like this.
I mean, he was drunk off his face when he made the Put Out the Fire solo. Heh.
"Well, Invisible Man is a terrible song anyway."
It's not my favourite.
"Maybe Brian didn't like it neither and that's the reason for this kind of feeblemindedness.
By the way, who wrote it? Probably John or Freddie
who are also famous for their pop-oriented nonsense."
Roger Taylor wrote it.
"Though I am able to play most Queen-songs I've never recorded any yet to show you that."
Heh, well I tried recording some proof to at least back up my ridiculous claims - it was alright stuff, but the humidity in the air pretty much killed my playing. I'll try again in more mild weather.
"But I am planing to do so in some weeks/months."
Please do! I really did try to get a thread started in the Announce section where people uploaded their playing, but only 2 people did it (the topic starter and myself).
"Meanwhile I am busy with other stuff."
Heh.
"I was thinking about '39 or Innuendo but if you have a special request don't hesitate to tell it to me.(I won't do Invisible Man...)"
I've been contemplating Innuendo for my 2nd attempt. It's really not that hard and I've been playing it heaps lately.
If you really want to 'impress' (though really, is it about that at all?) play something like Dead on Time. Heh.
"Yours sincerely"
Cheers.
I agree that I am wasting time here, but for something big I'd need a little bit more time."
Well that's what I was getting at, less talk and more rock.
"By the way I believe that I've never written yet that I'm a better guitarist than Brian May"
... heh. Look, just because I can play the majority of the Queen catalogue on the guitar doesn't make me 'better' than anyone. I just put more time into it, that's all.
"and I don't think about "Who is the best guitarist" in the way you've mentioned."
YOU JUST DID. YOU JUST SAID "yet I'm a better guitarist than Brian May". That = 'who is the best guitarist'.
"No, my view isn't that the one who plays the fastest or most dificult parts is the greatest."
I completely agree on this. I believe Jimi Hendrix has Steve Vai over a fucking barrel when it comes to guitar, because Steve Vai wastes 14 hours a day rehearsing these incredibly fast tunes, yet no bugger will ever remember them. Jimi Hendrix *invented* modern guitar playing, made incredible sounds with feedback in a way not many people would've done (on purpose anyway) and had such soul in his playing...
I'm sorry, who's Steve Vai again? :D
"It's the way how someone touches the strings, produces a sound and melody that fits to the song which characterizes a great guitarist.
And Brian is usually very good there (Vibrato!)."
Damn straight.
"But it's not really like this in reference to "Invisible Man". At least there is no melody."
I think you understand guitar playing pretty well, but you've missed the point with the Invisible Man solo. Can I give you a bit of background info on it?
Brian May was feeling very frustrated/angry one day, so he went into the studio and the Invisible Man solo came out. It's fast and frenetic - not incredibly complicated but utterly over the top for a basic song like this.
I mean, he was drunk off his face when he made the Put Out the Fire solo. Heh.
"Well, Invisible Man is a terrible song anyway."
It's not my favourite.
"Maybe Brian didn't like it neither and that's the reason for this kind of feeblemindedness.
By the way, who wrote it? Probably John or Freddie
who are also famous for their pop-oriented nonsense."
Roger Taylor wrote it.
"Though I am able to play most Queen-songs I've never recorded any yet to show you that."
Heh, well I tried recording some proof to at least back up my ridiculous claims - it was alright stuff, but the humidity in the air pretty much killed my playing. I'll try again in more mild weather.
"But I am planing to do so in some weeks/months."
Please do! I really did try to get a thread started in the Announce section where people uploaded their playing, but only 2 people did it (the topic starter and myself).
"Meanwhile I am busy with other stuff."
Heh.
"I was thinking about '39 or Innuendo but if you have a special request don't hesitate to tell it to me.(I won't do Invisible Man...)"
I've been contemplating Innuendo for my 2nd attempt. It's really not that hard and I've been playing it heaps lately.
If you really want to 'impress' (though really, is it about that at all?) play something like Dead on Time. Heh.
"Yours sincerely"
Cheers.