[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]SONIA DORIS<br><font size=1>The Cranky wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I must contradict you on this one Caspie: stuff like marijuana used in excess fucks up your brain. one becomes a (walkin?) vegetable due to smoking (etc.) a lot of things like that.[/QUOTE]
Not true. The only scenarion in which something like this would be possible is if you were genetically predisposed to schizophrenia, in which case marijuana, amongst other things, *could* (far from certain) trigger the onset of this disease.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]SONIA DORIS<br><font size=1>The Cranky wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I must contradict you on this one Caspie: stuff like marijuana used in excess fucks up your brain. one becomes a (walkin?) vegetable due to smoking (etc.) a lot of things like that.[/QUOTE]
Not true. The only scenarion in which something like this would be possible is if you were genetically predisposed to schizophrenia, in which case marijuana, amongst other things, *could* (far from certain) trigger the onset of this disease.[/QUOTE]
So, what you're saying is that you can smoke lots of pot 24/4 for years, and you will still be healthy?
Not true. The only scenarion in which something like this would be possible is if you were genetically predisposed to schizophrenia, in which case marijuana, amongst other things, *could* (far from certain) trigger the onset of this disease.[/QUOTE]
So, what you're saying is that you can smoke lots of pot 24/4 for years, and you will still be healthy?
Effects from LSD use are indeed extremely dangerous...
You might end up enjoying music by Bob Dylan or Lou Reed.
You might end up enjoying music by Bob Dylan or Lou Reed.
Yay, let's all do LSD!
In all my research and what I have learned, I have to agree with TQ on the safety of LSD use, although I am not quite as convinced as to the safety and lack of long-term effects of marijuana use.
It is true that no one dies "from using LSD" but then again no one dies from AIDS. They die from complications of it. For example, if you use LSD and have an illusion/delusion that you can fly so you jump off the Empire State building, you will die from complications of the LSD use. Hopefully, if you were not under the influence of the LSD, you wouldn't feel like you could fly. No one has ever found a therapeutic use for LSD so what is the benefit of it? Very potentially having a "bad trip" and seeing horrible things? Now that's fun! I guess I'm just a stick in the mud.
Of course I would never pass judgement on something that I have not experienced myself. I have taken LSD before and I've smoked more than my fair share of marijuana in my younger days. I feel I am qualified to voice my opinions on this. I don't feel nearly as strong against marijuana as I do LSD. I just feel like it's a very dangerous drug because it has so much power over your mind and rationale. Much more than weed. Infact, I'm not against anyone smoking pot, but I'm over that stage in my life. I feel like I need all the brain cells I can salvage to care for my children and help educate them. I feel an enormous amount of responsibilty to of course, be a role model to my kids. I'm not perfect and I never will be but I can't expect to preach to them to not do drugs or other things that are harmful, if I am going to take part in them. I don't go by the old philosophy, "do as I do, not as I say" crap. I also want to be around to watch them grow up. If I were to get caught with LSD or marijuana, there is a great chance I'll go to jail and miss a portion of their lives. A risk I'm not willing to take. I'd also lose my job and I would not be able to provide for them.
At my age and stage in life, this is where a lot of my opinions and views stem from...how my actions will affect my children. I understand not everyone is at that stage but I hope you all get there and that drugs don't prevent it from happening.
That's all. :)
Of course I would never pass judgement on something that I have not experienced myself. I have taken LSD before and I've smoked more than my fair share of marijuana in my younger days. I feel I am qualified to voice my opinions on this. I don't feel nearly as strong against marijuana as I do LSD. I just feel like it's a very dangerous drug because it has so much power over your mind and rationale. Much more than weed. Infact, I'm not against anyone smoking pot, but I'm over that stage in my life. I feel like I need all the brain cells I can salvage to care for my children and help educate them. I feel an enormous amount of responsibilty to of course, be a role model to my kids. I'm not perfect and I never will be but I can't expect to preach to them to not do drugs or other things that are harmful, if I am going to take part in them. I don't go by the old philosophy, "do as I do, not as I say" crap. I also want to be around to watch them grow up. If I were to get caught with LSD or marijuana, there is a great chance I'll go to jail and miss a portion of their lives. A risk I'm not willing to take. I'd also lose my job and I would not be able to provide for them.
At my age and stage in life, this is where a lot of my opinions and views stem from...how my actions will affect my children. I understand not everyone is at that stage but I hope you all get there and that drugs don't prevent it from happening.
That's all. :)
for christ's sake, they should kick people out of school who do that.
It pisses the living hell out of me how many people the team loses per year just because they think its too hard and decide to smoke pot or drink for that matter. These are the people who need help, not the kid who's tired because he works out all the time.
It pisses the living hell out of me how many people the team loses per year just because they think its too hard and decide to smoke pot or drink for that matter. These are the people who need help, not the kid who's tired because he works out all the time.
Listen to Whitney's words of wisdom...
CRACK IS WHACK!
CRACK IS WHACK!
I agree with Melissa, LSD is totally useless. There is no therapeutical use and the side effects are heavy. Flashbacks and "trailing" have been reported in many studies and it's just ridiculous to claim that "propaganda" was the reason for forbidding LSD. A chemical substance with no use and a danger potential has to be taken off the market, I don't understand how this can be questioned.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I agree with Melissa, LSD is totally useless. There is no therapeutical use and the side effects are heavy. Flashbacks and "trailing" have been reported in many studies and it's just ridiculous to claim that "propaganda" was the reason for forbidding LSD. A chemical substance with no use and a danger potential has to be taken off the market, I don't understand how this can be questioned. [/QUOTE]
Excuse me? No therapeutical use? Please cut it out, the two of you obviously don't know anything.
- In the 1950s, it was used to treat alcoholics. Success rate: >50%. Comparison: AA scores under 10%
- It has been used for years in the treatment of schizofrenia, and with succes!
- During the 1950s and '60s, up to the ban, it was used for a variety of psychiatrical disorders, again with a succes-rate of about 50%, sometimes more.
That's only the tip of the iceberg there.
As for the dangerous potential: several experts on neurology and chemistry have declared that the chances of LSD 'flashbacks' are zero, seeing as there is NOTHING of the drug left in the body after less than 10 hours. There have been NO cases of anyone getting themselves killed by irresponsible behaviour related to LSD and NO physical side-effects are possible, due to the short half-life of the drug in the body.
I wrote a paper on this, aced it and know my material. Don't think that your urban-legend based ideas about this are remotely correct. If you'd bother to look into it, which you easily can, you will find that your views on LSD are about a galaxy away from making any sense whatsoever.
Excuse me? No therapeutical use? Please cut it out, the two of you obviously don't know anything.
- In the 1950s, it was used to treat alcoholics. Success rate: >50%. Comparison: AA scores under 10%
- It has been used for years in the treatment of schizofrenia, and with succes!
- During the 1950s and '60s, up to the ban, it was used for a variety of psychiatrical disorders, again with a succes-rate of about 50%, sometimes more.
That's only the tip of the iceberg there.
As for the dangerous potential: several experts on neurology and chemistry have declared that the chances of LSD 'flashbacks' are zero, seeing as there is NOTHING of the drug left in the body after less than 10 hours. There have been NO cases of anyone getting themselves killed by irresponsible behaviour related to LSD and NO physical side-effects are possible, due to the short half-life of the drug in the body.
I wrote a paper on this, aced it and know my material. Don't think that your urban-legend based ideas about this are remotely correct. If you'd bother to look into it, which you easily can, you will find that your views on LSD are about a galaxy away from making any sense whatsoever.
For your enjoyment, some of my sources:
Bernard Aaronson and Humphrey Osmond
Dr. Albert Hofmann
Dr. Richard Alpert
Drs. Timothy Leary
Extra: Dr. Peter Goadsby --> LSD is the only known treatment for cluster-headaches
Bernard Aaronson and Humphrey Osmond
Dr. Albert Hofmann
Dr. Richard Alpert
Drs. Timothy Leary
Extra: Dr. Peter Goadsby --> LSD is the only known treatment for cluster-headaches
You've written a paper about LSD, Caspie? Was it a good subject to write about? I think you're only able to see the "good things" about this drug.
Well.. Can you tell me the fun of hallucinating? Why do they advice you to have a "trip guide"? That tells me it can be dangerous in some way. And there are some reports of chronical brain damage.
Well.. Can you tell me the fun of hallucinating? Why do they advice you to have a "trip guide"? That tells me it can be dangerous in some way. And there are some reports of chronical brain damage.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]SONIA DORIS<br><font size=1>The Cranky wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]SONIA DORIS<br><font size=1>The Cranky wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I must contradict you on this one Caspie: stuff like marijuana used in excess fucks up your brain. one becomes a (walkin?) vegetable due to smoking (etc.) a lot of things like that.[/QUOTE]
Not true. The only scenarion in which something like this would be possible is if you were genetically predisposed to schizophrenia, in which case marijuana, amongst other things, *could* (far from certain) trigger the onset of this disease.[/QUOTE]
So, what you're saying is that you can smoke lots of pot 24/7 for years, and you will still be healthy?[/QUOTE]
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/being-human/drugs-alcohol/dn8839-longterm-marijuana-use-may-fog-the-brain.html
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=30105
Not true. The only scenarion in which something like this would be possible is if you were genetically predisposed to schizophrenia, in which case marijuana, amongst other things, *could* (far from certain) trigger the onset of this disease.[/QUOTE]
So, what you're saying is that you can smoke lots of pot 24/7 for years, and you will still be healthy?[/QUOTE]
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/being-human/drugs-alcohol/dn8839-longterm-marijuana-use-may-fog-the-brain.html
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=30105
Sorry, Thomas Quinn, but I begin to doubt your school. I know actual living people who suffer from long time side effects caused by LSD, how can you say it does not happen? And these cases are documented. If LSD were so safe and if there were a therapeutical use - why would it be outlawed all over the planet? As if the pharmaceutical industry would ever lose a battle against the users unless there is a crystal clear case?
I'm not buying your 'LSD is okay' arguement TQ.